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Bussamove posted:That’s like saying one of the other demiurge’s cells has to have the key. Gog-agog has the key, and all the worms are Gog-agog. Yeah. I don't disagree with any of that. But there's still one with the key, because there's only one of the key.
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I love that this existential anguish is backdropped by a banana, an orange, and a fish. Who all seem to be earnestly invested.
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Ashcans posted:I love that this existential anguish is backdropped by a banana, an orange, and a fish. Who all seem to be earnestly invested. A demon, a worm, a banana and a fish all walk into a bar...
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May 3, 2024 22:58
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FuturePastNow posted:One of them's got to have the key The key is a metaphysical thing. If it's anywhere it's in their atum, which is spread through all of them.
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FuturePastNow posted:The green glow makes me think that's not just any worm, but maybe the worm they're still standing in a theatre full of in-costume gogs, you're crazy if you think gog didn't spend the night before with a can of day-glow paint, carefully making a flashier worm for the dramatic bit
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FuturePastNow posted:Yeah. I don't disagree with any of that. But there's still one with the key, because there's only one of the key. there used to be just one key, then there were ??? thousands???, then there were eight and shrinking. Who's to say Gog didn't portion hers out evenly, one tiny little splinter of god per worm
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I think the keys are sufficiently metaphysical that there's no need for a key to exist in a single physical location. All of Gog has the key, and Gog is widely distributed. That also means that obtaining Gog's key is probably simpler in concept than you might think. You don't have to search 111,111 universes for its hiding spot, or launch a quixotic attempt to kill her. You just need to find a Gog, any Gog, and ask join the circus. Then overwhelm her will with yours. Easy! Stabbing the Gog you find is probably unnecessary though. That was rude, Nukoku.
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Calling back to this page where you see Gog's key on her body at the moment disappear when she starts to bail. https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/king-of-swords-7-65/
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RocketMermaid posted:A demon, a worm, a banana and a fish all walk into a bar... And she orders a new coke
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Nukoku just means we'll get Ciocie Cioelle Classicke pretty soon, no problem
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skaianDestiny posted:Calling back to this page where you see Gog's key on her body at the moment disappear when she starts to bail. Thats not her key.
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M_Gargantua posted:Thats not her key. No I think that is her key, it projects her crown of atum and while there are key-like gems vatras wear, one of those wouldn't vanish leaving a weird hole into her fake skull when she bailed.
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This is a stupid question I'm sure has been answered before, but if Gog is so desperate to escape this farce and she's been through this cycle so many times, why didn't she just suck it up and help them when they had a genuine chance at beating Jagganoth? Was it so important to have that one moment of spite in the face of Mottom being an rear end in a top hat?
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Tiny Myers posted:This is a stupid question I'm sure has been answered before, but if Gog is so desperate to escape this farce and she's been through this cycle so many times, why didn't she just suck it up and help them when they had a genuine chance at beating Jagganoth? Was it so important to have that one moment of spite in the face of Mottom being an rear end in a top hat? There's a reason why Gog Agog isn't royalty, even after all this time. She and all the Demiurges who aren't dead are stuck in prisons of their own making.
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I don't think it'll be anything like the worm being THE worm and having the key but on the other hand it'd be really funny if it was. Nukoku eats it and suddenly all these Gogs just loving dissolve into a worm pile around them.
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Tiny Myers posted:This is a stupid question I'm sure has been answered before, but if Gog is so desperate to escape this farce and she's been through this cycle so many times, why didn't she just suck it up and help them when they had a genuine chance at beating Jagganoth? Was it so important to have that one moment of spite in the face of Mottom being an rear end in a top hat? Maybe she's been through a similar scenario where she did help and it still did loving nothing 'cause Jag can't just be beaten by More Cubit Spears.
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Gog isn't breaking the rules of the universe. She is very much a prisoner of the rules of the universe.
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Tiny Myers posted:This is a stupid question I'm sure has been answered before, but if Gog is so desperate to escape this farce and she's been through this cycle so many times, why didn't she just suck it up and help them when they had a genuine chance at beating Jagganoth? Was it so important to have that one moment of spite in the face of Mottom being an rear end in a top hat? Yes, because this can all happen again for her and might go better Next Time.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Yes, because this can all happen again for her and might go better Next Time. I think it's more that she's obsessed with the past, and can't really imagine the future being different from what's happened. She knows they'll lose because she knows nothing can ever change (she is wrong). Her offer to Allison isn't about 'actually you might do it' it's 'you should make the same mistake I'm making, obviously a smart cool person would make that mistake, please make my mistake.' She knows what happens if Allison eats the worm.
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Where does Gog keep her key? Why, on her keyringworm, of course!
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Gog-agog might be terrifyingly powerful and cursed with the amount of knowledge that can only come from having outlived creation itself countless times, but her spite is even more powerful than her desire to escape. She wouldn't be in her position if it were otherwise, after all.
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Tiny Myers posted:This is a stupid question I'm sure has been answered before, but if Gog is so desperate to escape this farce and she's been through this cycle so many times, why didn't she just suck it up and help them when they had a genuine chance at beating Jagganoth? Was it so important to have that one moment of spite in the face of Mottom being an rear end in a top hat? Gog-Agog embodies envy. She wants to escape because she hates being "stuck in the audience", as she put it. With that in mind, of course she'd upstage everyone at the climax and steal the show. Even if it means the final curtain doesn't fall this time, there's always the next performance.
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Tiny Myers posted:This is a stupid question I'm sure has been answered before, but if Gog is so desperate to escape this farce and she's been through this cycle so many times, why didn't she just suck it up and help them when they had a genuine chance at beating Jagganoth? Was it so important to have that one moment of spite in the face of Mottom being an rear end in a top hat? I mean yeah, what you said makes sense, but I took it at face value that she was just being that drat petty. And hey, there's always next time for her, which in a way encouragers her pettiness with a nothing to lose mentality. She's pulling an Eric Cartman: "Screw you guys, I'm going home!"
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Tiny Myers posted:This is a stupid question I'm sure has been answered before, but if Gog is so desperate to escape this farce and she's been through this cycle so many times, why didn't she just suck it up and help them when they had a genuine chance at beating Jagganoth? Was it so important to have that one moment of spite in the face of Mottom being an rear end in a top hat? Who cares if they beat Jagganoth? That's not good enough. Remember, in the earliest cycles Gog flat out won; it just didn't matter.
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Schwarzwald posted:Who cares if they beat Jagganoth? That's not good enough. Remember, in the earliest cycles Gog flat out won; it just didn't matter. Well, so says Gog, who also admits she can't really remember it well. Maybe she got complacent and Jagganoth or the Heir took her down; maybe Zoss just spun the wheel back because her conquest was worse than Jagganoth killing everything. Who knows! I just know that Gog's incredibly self-aggrandizing, insisting that she's actually the biggest and coolest of everyone if they would only recognize it, so I assume we're getting the version of history that makes the most sense to her.
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Joe Slowboat posted:Well, so says Gog, who also admits she can't really remember it well. Maybe she got complacent and Jagganoth or the Heir took her down; maybe Zoss just spun the wheel back because her conquest was worse than Jagganoth killing everything. Who knows! I just know that Gog's incredibly self-aggrandizing, insisting that she's actually the biggest and coolest of everyone if they would only recognize it, so I assume we're getting the version of history that makes the most sense to her. True, but her self-narrative is what counts, when we're trying to explain why she's willing to miss a chance to defeat Jagganoth.
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Schwarzwald posted:Who cares if they beat Jagganoth? That's not good enough. Remember, in the earliest cycles Gog flat out won; it just didn't matter. It's not about defeating jagganoth, he's just a hurdle on the way. Zoss is hunting for a stable long-term future for the world. Gog winning is a horrible state.
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Yeah, she might not remember the beginnining but she definitely remembers cycles where jags wasnt the winner and doesnt think much of them.
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My Emotional Support Worm!
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Ditocoaf posted:True, but her self-narrative is what counts, when we're trying to explain why she's willing to miss a chance to defeat Jagganoth. Oh yeah I just wanted to underline how much Gog’s version of the world is wrapped up in her self-pitying clown routine. Like every other demiurge; she knows more in one sense but really isn’t any more insightful than any of them (except Mammon, who is senile).
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Joe Slowboat posted:(except Mammon, who is senile) Was.
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Yes! The dog does die in Kill Six Billion Demons.
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