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Slamhound posted:Are the flyovers ever responsible for their own actions or communities? how stupid do you have to be to think that this is what schools in the midwest actually teach?
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:actually they're turning down a dece seven figgies to avoid places where people are fine with these textbooks oh, a picture on the internet said so. alright.
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reagan posted:oh, a picture on the internet said so. alright. go back to dnd where they hate jokes
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Thoguh posted:Where do places like Wichita and Omaha sit in this fantasy future? shittier versions of Austin
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Jan 11, 2017 02:54
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In the Midwest we say "a picher on the inernet"
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Jan 11, 2017 04:20
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:actually they're turning down a dece seven figgies to avoid places where people are fine with these textbooks to be fair this is apparently actually from a textbook intended for fundie lunatics to homeschool their kids with, and not being distributed to actual schools (at least I sure loving hope not). You can buy it here: https://www.amazon.com/Science-Christian-Schools-Home-Teachers/dp/0890845697 1.7 million children were homeschooled in 2012 lol
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Jan 11, 2017 04:57
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wait do you mean to tell me that Science 4 Christian Schools is not on the approved public school textbook list???
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Fullhouse posted:to be fair this is apparently actually from a textbook intended for fundie lunatics to homeschool their kids with, and not being distributed to actual schools (at least I sure loving hope not). You can buy it here: https://www.amazon.com/Science-Christian-Schools-Home-Teachers/dp/0890845697 A firm reminder that those people and their children are able to vote, drive and own firearms.
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Jan 11, 2017 07:08
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Talmonis posted:A firm reminder that those people and their children are able to vote, drive and own firearms. So are people who believe in Scientology, power crystals, and homeopathy. Hell, Steve jobs was arguably more powerful than any of the above people and he died trying to treat cancer with fruit juice.
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Jan 11, 2017 11:37
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doesn't cuba do some thing where they force doctors to go around the caribbean and help out in under-served areas? maybe we could do something like that. have cuban doctors work in our under-served areas i mean
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Jan 11, 2017 13:40
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Maybe areas where doctors refuse to work could start sending buses full of desperately sick people with a 1-way ticket to the bay area.
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Jan 11, 2017 14:25
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tower time posted:Maybe areas where doctors refuse to work could start sending buses full of desperately sick people with a 1-way ticket to the bay area. it's a well known fact that municipalities in the bay area are world-renowned for providing top notch medical care to their sizeable homeless and transient population!
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Jan 11, 2017 16:01
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Condiv posted:So are people who believe in Scientology, power crystals, and homeopathy. Hell, Steve jobs was arguably more powerful than any of the above people and he died trying to treat cancer with fruit juice. Oh I agree. It terrifies me. Woo peddlers get no reprieve from sheer incredulity. Really though, it's straight up unbelievable some days. I'm no genius. I don't have a college degree, I grew up in a sub-rural small town and all that. It blows me away that people just fall for all this crap.
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stranger danger posted:doesn't cuba do some thing where they force doctors to go around the caribbean and help out in under-served areas? maybe we could do something like that. Cuba doesn't pay doctors for poo poo, so this would be a great way to push doctors' salaries down. The savings can be passed on directly to the hospital administrators!
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Fullhouse posted:to be fair this is apparently actually from a textbook intended for fundie lunatics to homeschool their kids with, and not being distributed to actual schools (at least I sure loving hope not). You can buy it here: https://www.amazon.com/Science-Christian-Schools-Home-Teachers/dp/0890845697 Those fundie lunatics also control public schools in rural areas. I've posted about the lovely public schools me and my cousins attended before, but it was normal to be pulled out of class for assemblies put on by fundie groups. I didn't learn about evolution because my teacher didn't believe in it. We were taught that slavery and the Native American genocide were good things because it brought black people and Indians to Jesus. I had a math teacher who admitted she couldn't do math and would find a reason to lecture about Jesus if she hadn't one the lesson herself the night before (she also gave extra credit if we went to her church). The only private schools in the area are fundie. There's no way I'd send my kid to a local school.
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Rural Americans at higher risk from five leading causes of deathquote:The CDC suggests to help close the gap, health care providers in rural areas can: lmao
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To combo with this post. Rural hospitals had a provision in the ACA that helped them stay open by providing financial support. I read that people are dying less to cancer now due to improved detection and treatment. Good luck with that in rural America once all your hospitals shut down. Man, you think people would like these benefits, but since ACA is the devil, repel it all and let death take its course. Maybe if enough of the mid-West dies from preventable diseases, California might be able to pick up another EC vote.
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MadJackal posted:This is dumb thread of anecdotes about a microscopic number of insanely elite subspecialty surgeon positions being used to illustrate healthcare access across the country. A better general indicator would be the number of internal/family medicine physicians per capita, and what they make. I'm bored on a Friday afternoon, so I'm going to try to fix this lovely, lovely thread. First, Mad Jackal has the only informed and intelligent post, other than the OP. Second, everyone talking about more money, infrastructure, culture, or whatever aren't ever going attract any specialists to flyover country. You can't get them there for love or money because they don't want love or money. If they did, they'd be whores and Doctors want patients. And the patient densities in flyover country do not support oncologists, neurologists, and cardiac surgeons. They support family practitioners and internists. They even support ophthalmologists and endocrinologists, and those are damned hard specialties. Because those morbidities are all over the drat place at high rates. Once doctors can pay for their house, cars, and family, they stop paying any real attention to money. They pay attention to what they want to do - treat patients. They would pass on millions of dollars to keep from sitting around an empty exam room trying to think of a good reason not to abuse their DEA number. So how do you deal with getting advanced care to people in low population areas? Take the patients with the condition that only occurs 1000 times a year and fly them and their families to the one clinic with the training and experience to deal with it. It doesn't work nearly as well the other way around. I hear all but one first world countries do this. Get in your time machine, go back a hundred years, and set up a advanced research and treatment institute in a thriving city destined to become a blighted hellhole. Too bad Johns Hopkins didn't leave his blueprints lying around. You don't and just put up with it.
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House killed the ACA
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