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Dyna Soar posted:I guess there's something about this movie that evokes a pretty strong negative reaction here on SA I mean, the fact that it's not very good definitely evokes some kind of negative reaction.
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LesterGroans posted:I mean, the fact that it's not very good definitely evokes some kind of negative reaction. To each their own I guess. It's not a classic, not perfect and def not as good as Sicario or To Hell or High Water but still I enjoyed it, and it seems like most critics agree with me. Then again I think The Edge with Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins is a great movie, hah.
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Nov 7, 2017 10:08
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Like what you like, obviously, but what about it did you really enjoy?
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Nov 7, 2017 10:15
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I really enjoyed the setting and the realism. The blizzard looked very real and the scenery really looked like it should (I'm from Finland, I know winter). I think it showed the misery of the reservation without dwelling on it too heavily. I liked the main character and Jeremy Renners acting, I think he played the grieving father role well. I liked the plot, it was straight forward and gritty without being grimdark or sappy. I liked the shooting scene at the end, it was visceral and well filmed. I liked most the dialogue, altho some of the lines were a bit cheesy and the pacing was off, especially in the middle of the movie. Then again the same cheese was there in his previous scripts, but I guess a more experienced director recognizes it and knows when the tell the actors to tone it down. Same with the pacing, that was all on this being his debut. Give him 10 years and hopefully he'll get better at making movies. As I said, not perfect and not a classic, but there's more good than bad. I guess I'd compare it to The Edge or that Johnny Depp thriller, Secret Window. Enjoyable movies with minor flaws that I def can look past. Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Nov 7, 2017 |
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Nov 7, 2017 10:33
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I will say the instant Jon Bernthal appeared I had a huge smile on my face (that obviously didn't last for long).
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Nov 7, 2017 16:25
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Yeah, Bernthal was a nice surprise. I had no idea he was in the movie.
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Nov 7, 2017 22:12
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I didn't know anything about this going in other than Taylor Sheridan (I've only seen Sicario, still gotta watch HoHW), and I really enjoyed it. Gorgeous setting and the music was really good. I also liked that there wasn't any real mystery, it's just about the characters and the reservation and what the investigation does to them.
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Nov 7, 2017 22:23
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this movie was pretty good.
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Nov 12, 2017 01:07
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but you could tell it was by an inexperienced director. the POV shots were...not good, and he wasn't great at stretching out the tension, except in one memorable scene.
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Nov 12, 2017 02:51
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Mean Bean Machine posted:but you could tell it was by an inexperienced director. the POV shots were...not good, and he wasn't great at stretching out the tension, except in one memorable scene. It's a real bummer that a better director didn't get to do the pepper sprayed house search. That could have been an extremely tense scene from someone else.
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Nov 13, 2017 07:49
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This movie kinda hosed me up. Elisabeth Olsen flashes her rear end in the beginning and I thought 'Nice' but then we get a similar shot at the end of the indian girl right before she's raped and it's not nice at all!
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Nov 18, 2017 01:00
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Syncopated posted:This movie kinda hosed me up. Elisabeth Olsen flashes her rear end in the beginning and I thought 'Nice' but then we get a similar shot at the end of the indian girl right before she's raped and it's not nice at all! whoa that was an effective juxtaposition. i didnt realize it until you posted this
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Nov 18, 2017 01:18
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I came away from this film thinking that the main character om should have been Native American, and really feel that putting the solutions to all the problems they face on the one white man kinda made it ring hollow. They raise Jeremy Renner's characters outsider status once in the whole movie. Overall thought the film was good, I think Olsen did well in the role, but could have had more to do, or more screen time. I felt similar after Sicario with Emily Blunt.
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The Saviour posted:I came away from this film thinking that the main character om should have been Native American, and really feel that putting the solutions to all the problems they face on the one white man kinda made it ring hollow. More than once
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Nov 18, 2017 15:40
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Wait, Renner's fully white in the movie right. Am I falsely remembering back around the time the trailers came out, that he was halfblood as a compromise because they based part of it on a real guy who was First Nations? I can't find any evidence online but I really really remember it (like I remember trying to google the real guy cause I wanted to read what he had to say, all this still before the movie)
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Nov 18, 2017 15:49
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He's called part Indian in the script.quote:DALE
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Nov 18, 2017 16:35
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MorgaineDax posted:He's called part Indian in the script. well I might be wrong but iirc Tim is one of the local idiot cops who don't know poo poo, and regardless, Cory/Renner says hes "Indian enough to do favors, but not enough to pull a check." so afaik that means he doesnt have any more indian dna than a random american, but he was married and had a daughter and he works on the reservation so hes family, but not blood family idk thats just my interpretation
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Nov 18, 2017 16:47
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The way tribal membership is reckoned frequently can be as little as 1/32rd heritage, so I could see that being an aspect of Renner's character.
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Nov 18, 2017 16:54
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I'm still surprised that they got details like the Fremont County Sheriff's Office uniforms and patches right (my dad was in it for thirteen years), but it's somehow possible to take a snowmobile up to one of the most difficult mountains to climb in the country like it's nothing.
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Nov 18, 2017 17:21
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The way tribal membership is reckoned frequently can be as little as 1/32rd heritage, so I could see that being an aspect of Renner's character. yea but he "cant pull a check" or whatever so it sounds like he doesnt even have 1/32th
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Nov 18, 2017 17:30
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They were kind of playing up Shane From Walking Dead as being a bad guy the whole time, or at least extremely suspect, but when we get the flashback nothing he did or said was wrong and he was a victim too. He didn't seem like a bad guy despite the movie expecting him to be one
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Nov 18, 2017 19:20
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That's just a natural reaction to seeing Jon Bernthal. The assumption is that he'll be playing a bad guy.
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Nov 18, 2017 19:26
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i wouldnt say the movie expected him to be a bad guy.. we the audience sure did. we only knew he was dating the girl and some of those druggies didnt like him and i dont think anything else at all? his character was way too old to date a teenager though, but its nice to see bernthal play a kinda decent guy
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Nov 18, 2017 19:35
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Powaqoatse posted:yea but he "cant pull a check" or whatever so it sounds like he doesnt even have 1/32th True. I wonder if I was just assuming that because of Jeremy Renner. Was he never derisively referred to as white boy in this movie?
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Nov 18, 2017 19:37
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:True. I wonder if I was just assuming that because of Jeremy Renner. Was he never derisively referred to as white boy in this movie? I think when he talks to the brother in the back of the car? They both tear into each other so e: checked, he says "only thing native about you is your ex wife" Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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The Saviour posted:I came away from this film thinking that the main character om should have been Native American, and really feel that putting the solutions to all the problems they face on the one white man kinda made it ring hollow. Felt this also, although Renner did put on a great performance.
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Watched this yesterday. While I enjoyed it overall, it definitely could've been better. The made up cause of death was silly but didn't bother me that much, unlike the flashback and the ending overall. The flashback was extremely jarring, pretty much completely unnecessary, and might've been included for the drooling retards in the audience. But I thought that basically the whole part between them arriving at the site and the rapist escaping should've been replaced with something more interesting, less cliche, and that makes more sense than trying to kill a federal agent. Maybe instead of a lame shootout, build up something like the dingus story from Hateful 8.
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Nov 20, 2017 00:46
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Just caught this and loved it. The only thing I'm a little confused about is Renner sees something while looking at the cougars that is enough to get him to urgently radio the sheriff guy. I don't entirely get what clued him into realising they were walking into an ambush
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fadam posted:Just caught this and loved it. The only thing I'm a little confused about is Renner sees something while looking at the cougars that is enough to get him to urgently radio the sheriff guy. I don't entirely get what clued him into realising they were walking into an ambush He saw snow mobile tracks leading to the drill site which I think proved that it was they who had dumped the body of Jon Bernthal? Idk
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fadam posted:Just caught this and loved it. The only thing I'm a little confused about is Renner sees something while looking at the cougars that is enough to get him to urgently radio the sheriff guy. I don't entirely get what clued him into realising they were walking into an ambush He saw them flanking the cops.
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