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Maytag posted:The jury's not out, Theon had his dick removed. Maybe stick to Harry Potter if you're having trouble discerning this. Are you seriously getting all superior about reading A Song of Ice and Fire?
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Nilbop posted:Are you seriously getting all superior about reading A Song of Ice and Fire? Well, compared to Harry Potter, you can definitely be superior about it.
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Oct 30, 2011 03:28
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Maytag posted:The jury's not out, Theon had his dick removed. Maybe stick to Harry Potter if you're having trouble discerning this. DICKIO REGROWIOUS
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mind the walrus posted:ADWD specifically said he had a finger flayed at one point. The flaying goes all the way back to Storm of Swords actually. The mention of Theon being captured also includes a mention of a piece of his skin being given to Robb.
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Oct 30, 2011 03:54
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Party Plane Jones posted:The flaying goes all the way back to Storm of Swords actually. The mention of Theon being captured also includes a mention of a piece of his skin being given to Robb. What Robb never knew was that he was holding a piece of Theon's penis.
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Oct 30, 2011 04:00
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Azure_Horizon posted:Well, compared to Harry Potter, you can definitely be superior about it. Yeah you can read both without coming off as a bit of a wanker too.
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Oct 30, 2011 04:11
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MikeJF posted:What Robb never knew was that he was holding a piece of Theon's penis. Theon always wanted to be close to Robb...
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MikeJF posted:What Robb never knew was that he was holding a piece of Theon's penis. He knew. He had it sown into his smallclothes so they would never be separated again.
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Oct 30, 2011 04:29
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Nilbop posted:Yeah you can read both without coming off as a bit of a wanker too. Oh I've read both, but seriously if you haven't figured out that Theon's dong is gone I don't know how to react other than scornful mockery.
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Oct 30, 2011 04:45
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Also there's absolutely no way you can read Harry Potter without coming off as a "wanker."
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Oct 30, 2011 05:07
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I wonder. How do our UK Wildcards pronounce GRRM? I understand the RRs are silent, as in wanker or bastard. GMMM
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Oct 30, 2011 05:12
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I love HP, love ASOIAF, love football, Tim Tebow be circumcising filipino boys all day, love that poo poo, gently caress da jets, Theon in my heart got to represent Halloweeeeeen my costume is Jon loving Snow got a wolfdick hangin out my trouser Edd for Lyfe (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 30, 2011 05:14
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IRQ posted:Oh I've read both, but seriously if you haven't figured out that Theon's dong is gone I don't know how to react other than scornful mockery. The REAL question is whether he still has his testicles.
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Oct 30, 2011 05:36
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Oct 30, 2011 05:55
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Theons got tesicles, I've seen them. 
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bigmcgaffney posted:Theons got tesicles, I've seen them. But are they attached?
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Oct 30, 2011 07:23
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bigmcgaffney posted:I love HP, love ASOIAF, love football, Tim Tebow be circumcising filipino boys all day, love that poo poo, gently caress da jets, Theon in my heart got to represent I want more.
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Oct 30, 2011 07:36
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WildCard, high on GRRM's sweat.
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Soulcleaver posted:What the hell is this? Balls fuckin deep, Ty smiling from the hatch, PBR on flow..... GRRM rises, Eli Manning tosses a pick, super bowl? More like raper bowl And the poo poo flows from the rear end of a buxom dragon queen Edit: Edd for Lyfe
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Oct 30, 2011 09:36
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Don't forget the blood, there was a lot of that too. Edit: Edd for lyfe
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Oct 30, 2011 17:08
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Question; does anyone have a link to somewhere where people have collected all the random subtle poo poo that no doubt flew entirely over my head from ADWD?
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Oct 31, 2011 01:05
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Yes, every character is gay and also a secret targ. Except for Jon Snow. He's just gay. And dead.
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Revenant Threshold posted:Question; does anyone have a link to somewhere where people have collected all the random subtle poo poo that no doubt flew entirely over my head from ADWD? You could read through the stuff at Tower of the Hand and/or Westeros.org but I'm not sure if that would be more or less painful than going through this thread. I don't know anyone that's really consolidated all the theories into one place. Honestly RCarr isn't very far off, its mostly secret Targ poo poo, Aegon being the third dragon, Jon Snow is not dead and will warg or be razzed by Melisandre and is also TPTWP, and then stuff that's more obvious like Theon being dickless (literally) and Manderley serving Frey pies.
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Oct 31, 2011 02:04
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I know some people like the little references that GRRM leaves for the super-dedicated fans that have re-read the series like 8 times, but it just annoys me because I can't believe I'm expected to remember something like the Rat Cook or Blackwood or Blackthorn or Blackfuck or whatever the hell that Jaime chapter was about, which were sort of important plot points. It's not that I'm a poor reader who doesn't pick up on things like Renly and Loras' gayness or Theon's dicklessness (and I got that there was something super-suspicious about Manderly's behavior regarding the pies), but I've been reading this series since 1997 - do you know know how many re-reads would be required to keep all this poo poo fresh in my mind for 14 years? Would it kill this fat rear end in a top hat to refresh our memories sometimes with regards to small details like almost any other author does? It's pretty obvious he slips obscure references in here and there to make his work seem more clever than it really is. HoAssHo fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Oct 31, 2011 |
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Oct 31, 2011 02:44
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I think it's a bit much to expect an author to pander to those who need refreshers every new book. There's nothing wrong with re-reads.
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Azure_Horizon posted:I think it's a bit much to expect an author to pander to those who need refreshers every new book. There's nothing wrong with re-reads. And yet most of them seem to do it, perhaps assuming that most people have better poo poo to do than reread thousands of pages every time a new book comes out.
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Oct 31, 2011 04:04
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I don't expect a full recap. Just a a hint or whatever when he's talking about something as obscure as, oh, let's say, the Rat Cook. I've done one re-read. This is sufficient for every other series I've ever followed because most other series don't have to have a 30 page glossary of character names and I don't usually have to wait this long between books. How many re-reads would you recommend, though? Should I re-read the entire series every 5 years when a new book in the series comes out? Should I dedicate my life to ASOIAF?
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Oct 31, 2011 04:11
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Well being one of the lucky ones around here not having to wait at all in between the last 5 books I'd say I wouldn't mind a couple for refreshers thrown in. So much happens it's pretty easy to forget about whats going on somewhere especially when it gets really boring. Thankfully we have the internet though so when ever you may be confused or forget something there are plenty of resources at your disposal with out having to reread all the time if you don't want to.
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Oct 31, 2011 04:18
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True. I found out all the things I missed immediately after reading it, so it wasn't a big deal, really.
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Yeah, I don't particularly like reading all the books in a series over again when a new book comes out. That's impractical as hell for something with brief books, nevermind skull-crushing tomes. I have better things to do than read the same book over and over every few years just to refresh myself. I'd rather read the same book cover to cover twice in a row because it's just too awesome to do anything else with. That's great writing.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Yeah, I don't particularly like reading all the books in a series over again when a new book comes out. That's impractical as hell for something with brief books, nevermind skull-crushing tomes. I have better things to do than read the same book over and over every few years just to refresh myself. Then use the Internet.
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Azure_Horizon posted:Then use the Internet.  Thanks for another great insight.
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SammyWhereAreYou posted:I don't expect a full recap. Just a a hint or whatever when he's talking about something as obscure as, oh, let's say, the Rat Cook. Never read Gene Wolfe.
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Azure_Horizon posted:Then use the Internet. Because I really want to hang out with a browser open while I read. That just sounds so fun.
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Oct 31, 2011 12:17
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If George patiently explained every subtle thing you'd have far more readers bitching about how condescendingly he was treating the reader, and with much better reason.
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Oct 31, 2011 13:45
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Maybe this "complicated" series is not for you...
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Oh stop. I'm not saying it's too complicated for me to handle, just that there's a shitload to remember over many years. Mainly I'm just annoyed by how long this series has taken. Pretty sure that I wouldn't have started reading it at 21 if I knew I'd still be reading it at 35.
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Kekekela posted:
Just a tad more interesting than complaining about subtleties one misses while reading ASOIAF. Next book will feature Jon Connington masturbating to the idea of loving Aegon in the rear end in a top hat, just so people can actually know he's gay because it's so hard to figure this poo poo out.
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No see expecting you to remember throwaway characters from books released years ago is subtle genius, guys, it's not bad writing at all.
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