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Maytag posted:Pretty sure Freddy Mercury was talented. Fat-Bottomed GRRMs, they'll be riding today So look out for their scooters, oh yeah
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If only GRRM was more like Brian Jacques (RIP)! This fantasy would be the best thing ever. (Brian Jacques wrote the Redwall books - he would start and finish the entire plot in a single novel and allude to those books in the next book, etc. Not to mention he consistently pumped out 250-400 page books every 8-14 months for 20-30? years, not including his graphic books, etc. that went along with the Redwall series).
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Conduit for Sale! posted:Who cares about hot women? Well, I can tell you all of the characters in ASOIAF who sure as hell don't, such as fan favorites Dolorous Edd and Jon Stark.
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bigmcgaffney posted:Well, I can tell you all of the characters in ASOIAF who sure as hell don't, such as fan favorites Dolorous Edd and Jon Targaryen. I took the liberty of fixing the last word for you, as they take the name of their father not mother yo.
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Joramun posted:Besides her I'd use it about Cormac McCarthy too, without any shame, reproach or hesitation. Credit where credit is due. Him, Vonnegut, and Frank Herbert are the three authors I'd say are absolutely perfect writers.
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mind the walrus posted:Obligatory statement about the insanely hot women he seems to bag, and that you'd be smug too blah blah blah blah Conduit for Sale! posted:Does that make Jon a Targ Warg?
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Azure_Horizon posted:Vonnegut, and Frank Herbert are...absolutely perfect writers. What.
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mind the walrus posted:Dragons D.R.E.A.M. get the honeyed locusts, dolorous dolorous edd ya'll
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Martin Van Buren posted:Yeah I would def say this too except it's sci fi, even though it kinda masquerades as fantasy when it starts out. Sci-fi and fantasy have boundaries which become increasingly blurry the further the science gets from 'hard' science. BotNS is so far away from hard science that saying "No, it's sci-fi, not fantasy!" is a specious argument. M. John Harrison's Viriconium novels aren't bad either.
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whowhatwhere posted:What. I don't see how there's anything wrong with that statement. Vonnegut is just on a different level than nearly every other writer I've come across, and Frank Herbert created the best sci-fi universe to date.
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Neurosis posted:Sci-fi and fantasy have boundaries which become increasingly blurry the further the science gets from 'hard' science. BotNS is so far away from hard science that saying "No, it's sci-fi, not fantasy!" is a specious argument.
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Dune is an immensely awesome work if you can manage to stop reading it 1.5 books in.
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bengraven posted:Haven't checked this thread in over 6000 replies and wondered to myself: "Has it devolved back into the "bad thread" yet?". Thank God, not yet, but the undercurrent is there. 7600 posts to cover what could have been written in 30 if we had a better editor.
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Azure_Horizon posted:I don't see how there's anything wrong with that statement. Vonnegut is just on a different level than nearly every other writer I've come across, and Frank Herbert created the best sci-fi universe to date. 1-3 were ok, 4 was a weird rear end book that wasn't really dune, and 5/6 were awful and you could tell Frank's mind was going. I mean I guess I can see it if you stopped after Children of Dune, but perfect? Or even calling him great? Nah.
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DARPA posted:7600 posts to cover what could have been written in 30 if we had a better editor. * I may or may not even have clawed my own face a little bit in agony
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Dune is an immensely awesome work if you can manage to stop reading it 1.5 books in. That feeling when you didn't, and then you experienced the ups and downs of it. And then you wanted more. So you bought the books written by his son. And you cried.
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See? We're luckier than Dune fans! GRRM doesn't have a son! Also: Vonnegut has some really great works, and a unique style, but most of his novels are basically the same work with different names attached. And Dune was great; everything else was adequate at best. Saying Dune was the best scifi universe so far != perfect writer.
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IRQ posted:1-3 were ok, 4 was a weird rear end book that wasn't really dune, and 5/6 were awful and you could tell Frank's mind was going. I thought God Emperor, Heretics, and Chapterhouse were way better than the first three novels. The Golden Path alone is a fantastic, awesome idea for a series. Definitely did not find the last two novels awful in any way whatsoever.
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Azure_Horizon posted:I thought God Emperor, Heretics, and Chapterhouse were way better than the first three novels. The Golden Path alone is a fantastic, awesome idea for a series. Definitely did not find the last two novels awful in any way whatsoever. Haha, I didn't notice who I was quoting. Of course you'd say that.
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HarveyVdarski posted:That feeling when you didn't, and then you experienced the ups and downs of it. Shaara syndrome.
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IRQ posted:Haha, I didn't notice who I was quoting. Of course you'd say that. And many others would agree. Shock, awe.
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You are actually the only person I have ever met who likes the last couple Frank Dune books, and I've been at writing workshops and SF/F conferences pretty regularly for the past five years. I'm not saying they don't exist but they're a rare sort of bird.
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whowhatwhere posted:See? We're luckier than Dune fans! GRRM doesn't have a son!
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HarveyVdarski posted:That feeling when you didn't, and then you experienced the ups and downs of it. My first question on hearing of the GRRM's likelihood of death: "Does he have a son like Brian Herbert?"
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Joramun posted:What if he impregnates some fangirl at a convention right before he dies and we then have to wait like 20-30 years for George jr. (or Dany if it's a girl) to grow up and finish the series? How will we know it's a real GRRMspawm or just the fangirl and her brother? We could have a Joffrey that claims the GRRM-mantle but is instead an imposter. Then the Bad thread will have to track down his bastards to write the end of the series and there will be nerd civil wars.
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crazypeltast52 posted:How will we know it's a real GRRMspawm or just the fangirl and her brother? We could have a Joffrey that claims the GRRM-mantle but is instead an imposter.
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Joramun posted:Even then, we can't be sure the fangirl's brother is really her brother and not secretly a Goodkind.
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Joramun posted:Even then, we can't be sure the fangirl's brother is really her brother and not secretly a Tolkien.
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whowhatwhere posted:While secretly, the daughter of Robert Jordan waits to crush the usurper's family and reclaim the fandom that is rightfully hers.
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General Battuta posted:You are actually the only person I have ever met who likes the last couple Frank Dune books, and I've been at writing workshops and SF/F conferences pretty regularly for the past five years. I'm not saying they don't exist but they're a rare sort of bird. I think they're okay. Not as good as the first ones but I wouldn't hate life if I had to read the later ones again. There's some neat things in them but they just don't assemble into a good story. I think you'd pretty much have to know nothing about good storytelling to think they're better, though.
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Leviathan Wakes is Ty gearing up to finish GRRMs work even if he doesn't die. GRRM has to focus to finish up his greatest work: WILDCARDS. I only read the first Dune, little did I know that would turn out to be a fantastic decision. Now that were done with that discussion, lets talk about Chrono Cross.
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