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basx posted:House Mormont is how GRRM copes with his mother issues. This is probs accurate. After all, "Mormont" is an anagram for "torn Mom", which was the result of GRRM's natural birth all those years ago.
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IRQ posted:Does Gurm have a sister, because if so...
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NihilCredo posted:Try a GIS for bruce vilanch. You are a gloriously evil man 
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This thread is now the bad thread again. BTW, if George loves the word "jape", does that make him a "japist"?
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Serial japist.
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Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:I wonder if GURM has his new wife-lady call him Rhaegar? No, he just called her Lyanna during the bedding.
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Is Ty's next book out? Been waiting forever over here. Absolute sycophant.
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Did someone in this thread actually read his book? Or the one he co-wrote or whatever? If so, how good a writer is the future finisher of the series?
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Ty Franck, GRRMs right hand man, who joined up with fantasy all star Daniel Abraham (The Long Price Quartet, The Dagger and the Coin Quintet) as the architect of the pulp sci-fi Expanse Series. Leviathan Wakes recieved rave reviews from critics and laymen alike, even getting an endorsement from GRRM himself. The novel harkens back to the classic days of sci-fi yore, and this June the second installment will hit shelves and e-readers. So far Ty Franck has been able to write a tight, gripping yarn, but we will see if Caliban's War reaches its potential or hits the sophomore slump.
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Maytag posted:Wait Ty? Who are we talking about? He is basically Gurm's Reek.
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bigmcgaffney posted:Ty Franck, GRRMs right hand man, who joined up with fantasy all star Daniel Abraham (The Long Price Quartet, The Dagger and the Coin Quintet) as the architect of the pulp sci-fi Expanse Series. Leviathan Wakes recieved rave reviews from critics and laymen alike, even getting an endorsement from GRRM himself. The novel harkens back to the classic days of sci-fi yore, and this June the second installment will hit shelves and e-readers. So far Ty Franck has been able to write a tight, gripping yarn, but we will see if Caliban's War reaches its potential or hits the sophomore slump. I think we're going to need to get you fitted for an old SNAKES N CAKES avatar soon. Maytag posted:GRRM gave a stunning review to a book written by his right-hand man? Really, GRRM would pretty much rave about anything his right hand did. "Wiped my rear end. Five/Five Stars!"
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Blurbs are part and parcel for entertainers of any sort. Even if what they made gives you physical diarrhea, if their marketing demographic overlaps with yours you pretty much have to pretend it's the best thing since sliced bread initially. Lord knows that without GRRM's endorsement Ty wouldn't be getting anywhere anyway.
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To be honest, Ty has been trying to get out of GRRMs shadow for some time now. He goes by the pseudonym S. A. Corey, proving that he is trying to make a name for himself on his (and the esteemed D. Abraham) own merit. He may have needed a boost to get through today's weak publishing market, but the last thing he wants is to be known as GRRMs right hand man. Even our own Hedrigall, noted homosexual, WildCard, and China Mieville afficionado has said that his book wasn't all together terrible. In fact it might have surpassed GRRMs own recent works. Of course, GRRM is now set up for a kick rear end book after the buildup of the last two entries (though the do hold their own if you look outside of the established narrative and try and discern what GRRM is really trying to tell us) and Ty might have an issue with the middle segment of the series. As Vonnegut once said, who is probably as perfect an author there is, along with McCarthy and Herbert, the beginning and end are the easy parts, but the middle is where legends are made. Vonnegut, of course, said it with wry humor and understated the issue a bit. As any aspiring author can agree with, the middle is by far the hardest part.
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Speaking of Bruce Vilanch, he said some things. http://blog.shelfari.com/my_weblog/...+%28Shelfari%29
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bigmcgaffney posted:Ty Franck, GRRMs right hand man, who joined up with fantasy all star Daniel Abraham (The Long Price Quartet, The Dagger and the Coin Quintet) as the architect of the pulp sci-fi Expanse Series. Leviathan Wakes recieved rave reviews from critics and laymen alike, even getting an endorsement from GRRM himself. The novel harkens back to the classic days of sci-fi yore, and this June the second installment will hit shelves and e-readers. So far Ty Franck has been able to write a tight, gripping yarn, but we will see if Caliban's War reaches its potential or hits the sophomore slump. Leviathan Wakes owned pretty hard It's a shame the author will have to tone down the quality of the sequel in order to keep GRRM from getting jealous
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Arms_Akimbo posted:Speaking of Bruce Vilanch, he said some things. Um... I believe that is George R. R. Martin, the author of the books this thread discusses. That isn't Bruce Vilanch.
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bigmcgaffney posted:Um... I believe that is George R. R. Martin, the author of the books this thread discusses. That isn't Bruce Vilanch. I'm pretty sure Arms__Akimbo was using sarcasm.
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has anyone attempted to relate bran's mobility to the pacing of the plot in the books yet? - in the beginning, bran was an able-bodied youngster able to run and climb, just as in the first three books the plot moved quite quickly and something momentous occurred almost every chapter - then bran fell and broke his legs, and had to be carried everywhere, foreshadowing how the plot slowed down in feast/dance - now bran is sitting in one place and will eventually decompose/become part of a tree, which foreshadows how GRRM will die before another book is finished. the plot is over. there's symbolism everywhere!
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But what's the symbolism of his being able to teleport his consciousness to any Heart Tree?
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whowhatwhere posted:But what's the symbolism of his being able to teleport his consciousness to any Heart Tree? That's representative of how the series will now teleport to other authors as they attempt to wrap up the series.
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whowhatwhere posted:But what's the symbolism of his being able to teleport his consciousness to any Heart Tree? Watching football.
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shen posted:has anyone attempted to relate bran's mobility to the pacing of the plot in the books yet? whowhatwhere posted:But what's the symbolism of his being able to teleport his consciousness to any Heart Tree? MikeJF posted:That's representative of how the series will now teleport to other authors as they attempt to wrap up the series. Maytag posted:Watching football. Welp, 
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And that my friends is why ASOIAF is a postmodern fantasy heavy hitter.
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shen posted:has anyone attempted to relate bran's mobility to the pacing of the plot in the books yet? Bran broke his legs in the first book? How do you explain the fast pace of the next two books?
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Octy posted:Bran broke his legs in the first book? How do you explain the fast pace of the next two books? Falling is pretty fast...
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Anders posted:Falling is pretty fast... Yes, but also very short. His theory uses Bran as he is in each book to be a symbol of that books pace. THat means every book is slow and unmoving without the aid of some outside force. Of course, its entirely possible this is just a stupid theory that only works in quite broad strokes.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:The only stupid thing in the first three books is Hodor. While I'm a fan of superfluous characters, I feel they add to the main cast through interaction, I really am curious what sparked the genesis of Hodor. Did he grow as a vehicle solely for carrying bran's crippled rear end, comic relief, a poor design in hindsight? I wish someone would ask Martin why he thought a giant simpleton was a good idea for a tertiary character
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Aurubin posted:I wish someone would ask Martin why he thought a giant simpleton was a good idea for a tertiary character
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Aurubin posted:While I'm a fan of superfluous characters, I feel they add to the main cast through interaction, I really am curious what sparked the genesis of Hodor. Did he grow as a vehicle solely for carrying bran's crippled rear end, comic relief, a poor design in hindsight? Maybe I am stating the obvious, but the first time Bran slipped his skin into Hodor, I thought that explained his character fully. You couldn't have Bran slip his skin into a full fledged human and now that Bran's body is becoming one with the heart tree, Hodor can become his surrogate body.
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With all the Hodor chat, I think we should discuss how we pronounce Hodor. I Hodor Hodor like 'HODD-or' but in the show they Hodor it 'HO-dor'. Sounds hosed up to me. Alternative pronunciation: Lamprey pie.
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