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ShotgunWillie
Aug 30, 2005

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grnberet2b posted:

So this happened down the road from where I live, which has us a bit on edge about bees in general, but I'm curious about something the associated article reported. They said that there was ~125 pounds of honeycomb in the hive. How much is that relative to what a backyard beehive would hold?

That was an unusually large feral hive, but would be pretty typical in size for a well managed langstroth hive. I leave about 100lbs of honey in every one of my hives for winter.

Being in Texas, I would have expected the bees to be Africanized, but africanized bees just don't build hives that large. I'd lay odds that the guy who was stung was loving with them somehow.

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

We're also getting into the late summer dearth, when bees are at their most aggressive. And it looks like it was probably a warm day, too, so lots of bees out.

I'm gonna make a wild guess that an employee discovered the hive and tried to take care of it with a hose or something.

Tally
May 26, 2011

How aggressive are Africanise bees compared to your typical bad tempered Europeans?

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010

Tally posted:

How aggressive are Africanise bees compared to your typical bad tempered Europeans?

Amazingly aggressive, they will chase you for miles and even stick around if you try and hide underwater.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/williamson/bee-ware-of-the-beehive-bandit

Some rear end in a top hat beek is stealing honey from a local charity.

ShotgunWillie
Aug 30, 2005

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Tally posted:

How aggressive are Africanise bees compared to your typical bad tempered Europeans?

They are crankier than normal. If you're going to work with them, invest in a good suit and wear glasses. If they get really upset with you, so many will try to sting through your veil that venom will get sprayed in your eyes.

It's pretty amazing.

Tally
May 26, 2011

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/williamson/bee-ware-of-the-beehive-bandit

Some rear end in a top hat beek is stealing honey from a local charity.

Theifing beeks seem to be on the rise. Our local association had three hives stolen this year. Wankers.

Tally
May 26, 2011

ShotgunWillie posted:

They are crankier than normal. If you're going to work with them, invest in a good suit and wear glasses. If they get really upset with you, so many will try to sting through your veil that venom will get sprayed in your eyes.

It's pretty amazing.

Do they have any good traits? Are they more resistant etc?

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
Nope. They were trying to create a bee that produced more honey, but it actually turns out to produce less.

drewhead
Jun 22, 2002

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/williamson/bee-ware-of-the-beehive-bandit

Some rear end in a top hat beek is stealing honey from a local charity.

KXAN posted:

Someone took 150 pounds of honey from the hives this past week, about $2,000 worth.
That's just making GBS threads reporting right? You're not seriously getting $13 + a # for honey in Texas are you?

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drewhead posted:

That's just making GBS threads reporting right? You're not seriously getting $13 + a # for honey in Texas are you?

I sell mine for between $30-$40/lb in NYC. It ain't no thang.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
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$30-$40 a pound in NYC? That is like half gallon prices here in Philly.

Nebulis01
Dec 30, 2003
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nesbit37 posted:

$30-$40 a pound in NYC? That is like half gallon prices here in Philly.

Wholesale 4-5/lb, retaill 8-9/lb in WA. What would make you pay 40 for a pound of honey?

ShotgunWillie
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Nebulis01 posted:

Wholesale 4-5/lb, retaill 8-9/lb in WA. What would make you pay 40 for a pound of honey?

Specialty product sold to people who are willing to pay extra for locally produced and treatment free honey. Also, I'm super cute.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

drewhead posted:

That's just making GBS threads reporting right? You're not seriously getting $13 + a # for honey in Texas are you?

Probably, but there are a lot of people with more money than sense around here. We were selling organic heirloom artichokes for $8 apiece last summer, and they were completely selling out.

http://www.roundrockhoney.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=1

And yup, looks like 14 a pound is possible. drat, I might need to get some more hives...

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
I went to Pike Place Market in Seattle today and at one of the booths that sold honey, they had a few jars open and it had attracted bees who wanted to try the honey as well. I stuck my finger in a little bit that had spilled and hand fed a bee.

It was the exemplification of :3:

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010
bees have the most adorable little tongues

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Delta-Wye posted:

I went to Pike Place Market in Seattle today and at one of the booths that sold honey, they had a few jars open and it had attracted bees who wanted to try the honey as well. I stuck my finger in a little bit that had spilled and hand fed a bee.

It was the exemplification of :3:

I actually have a jar of honey from that guy, from when I visited Seattle in May/June. When I'm on vacation somewhere and I see someone selling local honey I always get some, even though we have way more honey than we could possibly need just sitting around at home. Solidarity or something I guess?

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010
BEES!

My little nuc colony is growing with gusto with heavy feeding and this warm September, they've gone from 4 frames of brood and 1 frame of stores to 6 frames of solid wall to wall brood and 2 1/2 frames of stores, i hope to get them to finish drawing out all the frames before the cold weather hits, but I don't think I'll be that lucky.



(No, I'm not placing the feeder directly onto frames, there's a clear poly quilt (crown board) in place of a regular crown board, they are fantastic, I can nose in all the time and see how they're doing without disturbing them.)

Tally
May 26, 2011

This is my first year so apart from worrying that they'll live through winter are there any big jobs you guys do while they are hunkered down?

I'm going to build a shed for the amazing about of woodened boxes I'm starting to get. Also I'm getting to the age where I need a comfy shed.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

If you've harvested, it's nice to take the mediums that aren't in use and check them over, make sure the paint is good and the wood isn't splitting or whatever. Wash out the unused frames that still have drawn comb on them and seal them in something to store for the winter - I use giant-sized ziploc bags (they're like 30 gallon bags or something). Clean up tools. Once the hive is buttoned down, not a bad idea to clear brush or grass that's grown up around the base of the hive.

But no, nothing really major that I can think of.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
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Do you use paramoth or anything when you store them? Last year I stored them in garbage bags after freezing the frames for a few days and still lost a couple supers worth of drawn frames from wax moths.

Pagan
Jun 4, 2003

What do I do with all this wax, now that I've harvested my honey? I've drained it, but of course there are still traces of honey on the wax. How do I clean it, and then melt it into blocks of pure wax?

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
There's a recipe online probably. You could make soap, chapstick, candles, anything really. Just make sure you do it in a pot you don't care about, because the wax will ruin it.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
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Melt it in a double boiler and put it through some paper towel into a cardboard milk container. The honey will seperate to the bottom, slumgum above that and everything on top should be clean wax once it cools and hardens.

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010
put the empty frames in a super and put them on top of a hive over a crown board, the bees will clean the honey off and take it down into the hive, leaving you lovely clean frames ready for reuse after a few days.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Managed to get a laying queen in my hive. Went from a bunch of unhappy workers and no brood and very little honey to ten gallons over the last 3 months.

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010
that's a lucky break, just in time, I've just put mine to sleep for the winter, I only have one last inspection to do to check for mice and insert a dummy board and put the mouse guard on.

ShotgunWillie
Aug 30, 2005

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Due to some poor decision making by my corporate partner, I lost 17 hives to Hurricane Sandy. They were swept into the East River.

Welp.



The rest of them.
http://imgur.com/a/mmZyH

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
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That really sucks. I still need to go check on a few of my hives but I suspect they are ok, and certainly not swept into a river. What was the bad decision? Placement? Not strapping them?

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

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Beemageddon. :smith:

So, I follow this thread pretty closely despite not having any bee projects of my own, due exclusively to living in the city and renting my place. Anyone here live in Chicago? I'd love to see the process in person when it all starts up again next year.

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010
Oh wow, that sucks rear end, is the equipment salvageable or was that all waterlogged too?

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
That's so sad. Poor bees!

Money Walrus
Sep 2, 2007

Pagan posted:

What do I do with all this wax, now that I've harvested my honey? I've drained it, but of course there are still traces of honey on the wax. How do I clean it, and then melt it into blocks of pure wax?

I'd be interested in some wax from one of you guys, we glassblowers use a ton of the stuff as lubricant for the hot steel tools, and I find different waxes from different regions have different properties and all smell amazing when burning up. I would gladly pay for it.

ShotgunWillie, sorry about your bees dude. I'm here in Brooklyn too, we got boned in Red Hook so I feel your pain. If you need some help cleaning up, I've been volunteering every weekend since the storm.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
So this spring I am planning on buying 6 hives and building a new hive support structure. (The old one rotted away). It has been... years since we last raised bees. My 93yr old neighbor still raises two hives and has great honey. He no longer can take care of them and only one other neighbor in ~10 miles of farm land has hives. Since I am starting from scratch again, is there a good book to read this winter?

Thanks!

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
Beekeeping for Dummies was actually really useful for me. It has everything.

ShotgunWillie
Aug 30, 2005

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I recommend "The Beekeepers Handbook" in the classes I teach. Beekeeping for Dummies is a viable and somewhat cheaper alternative, but I find it to be less useful after the first year.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Personally I like The Beekeeper's Bible: Bees, Honey, Recipes & Other Home Uses

j4on
Jul 6, 2003
I fix computers to pick up chicks.
If you already know how to keep bees, I'd heartily endorse The Buzz about Bees: Biology of a Superorganism. It's a research oriented book that really explains what makes bees tick.

A subscription to American Bee Journal is also cheap and good. Only print pub I pay money for.

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ShotgunWillie
Aug 30, 2005

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Indolent Bastard posted:

Personally I like The Beekeeper's Bible: Bees, Honey, Recipes & Other Home Uses

Terrible introductory beekeeping book. Great recipes though, and nice pictures.

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