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Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


HackerJoeGuy posted:

Obviously her poem was a false flag operation designed by the Boston Police/FBI/OBAMA so that they could covertly take over our arts.

If only they'd wanted to take them over with something tasteful. :sigh:

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Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

Wow, that's some lovely, lovely journalism.

It says USA Today right at the top of the page dude.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

uncle spero posted:

Imagine, even if they succeed, his victory will mean the rest of his life inside this:



I read an article recently written by a guy who has spent 30 or so years in similar solitary confinement after killing a police officer in a courtroom during his robbery trial. Really frightening stuff. Even if this guy's lawyers win, he still loses.

Toilet and water fountain combined into one is the most subtle torture.

etalian fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Apr 25, 2013

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

etalian posted:

Toilet and water fountain confined into one is the most subtle torture.

Very bad Feng Shui, too.

e:

uncle spero posted:

Not everyone serving life does it the way this guy has done it. Usually there is more integration with the general population. This guy has spent his life in solitary likely due to the nature of his crime or something he did in confinement that he is not mentioning in his essay.

Big-time high profile federal terrorists, however, tend to wind up in a prison that is nothing but this style of confinement and has no general population really. Just take a look at the list of other prisoners who are very similar to Dzokhar in respect to their crimes. Even the ones whose plans failed wound up here. I would suspect this is where he is going:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence

He's there becasue his underlying crime was that he shot two deputies during an escape attempt, making him a security risk. (apparently forever)
And yep, incorrigibles and political prisoners go to Florence.

joat mon fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Apr 25, 2013

Hayburner
Jan 29, 2005

hi

etalian posted:

Toilet and water fountain combined into one is the most subtle torture.

It's a closed system wherein piss is stored and released through the fountain. A piss fountain if you will. He deserves nothing more.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

Hayburner posted:

It's a closed system wherein piss is stored and released through the fountain. A piss fountain if you will. He deserves nothing more.

Is it a Kevin Costner approved filter system?

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

WoodrowSkillson posted:

Yeah, there is a huge difference between "Hey these two dudes have backpacks and then one of them does not, huh, I wonder if these are the guys the real pros will notice too?" and "yep dudes with backpacks, find the facebooks and spread the info boys!"

People in the SA thread were posting Sunil's name, Twitter, and Facebook repeatedly actually. And that Mike Mugulaty or whatever his name was too.

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style

Earwicker posted:

It says USA Today right at the top of the page dude.

Ah ok, being a UK'er I'm not familiar with where US papers fall on the rag-o-meter.

Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

Earwicker posted:

It says USA Today right at the top of the page dude.


HMPH WELL
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/25/boston-bombing-times-square-dahokhar-tsarnaev-attack/2112991/


They're expanding on the "party" thing and Bloomsberg is saying that Tsarnaev changed his tune and admitted that they planned an attack. But I thought he wasn't talking anymore?

quote:

In his initial interviews with investigators, the younger Tsarnaev said only that the pair intended to go to Manhattan "to party." The next day, according to Kelly, he changed his story and told them about the Times Square plan.

"In the car, they made a decision to go to New York, with the remaining explosive devices that they had and to detonate one or more in Times Square," Kelly said.

The police commissioner said the brothers still had in their possession a pressure cooker device packed with explosions, like one used at the finish line of the Boston Marathon on April 15, and six pipe bombs. Three people were killed and 264 wounded in the Boston attack.

But CNN says they had five pipe bombs and a really super plan that would have gone off without a hitch except for the whole cars needing gas thing

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/25/us/boston-attack/index.html

quote:

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev initially told investigators that he and his brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, had talked about going to New York to "party." But after further questioning he revealed that they planned to use their remaining explosives there, Kelly announced.

The plan "fell apart" when the SUV ran low on fuel in the Boston area and the Tsarnaevs ordered the driver to pull into a gas station, Kelly said. The driver escaped during the refueling, he said, and police subsequently caught up with the Tsarnaevs.

The brothers had five pipe bombs and a "pressure-cooker bomb" -- the latter similar to the bombs used in the Boston blasts -- with them in the SUV, Kelly said.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

Ah ok, being a UK'er I'm not familiar with where US papers fall on the rag-o-meter.
I wouldn't call USA Today a rag, its just written for a lower education audience than most newspapers.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

Ah ok, being a UK'er I'm not familiar with where US papers fall on the rag-o-meter.

It's not as bad as, say, The Daily Mail, but it's not a place where one would ever expect quality journalism. It's commonly referred to as McPaper.

Woman
Oct 31, 2010

Y Kant Ozma Post posted:


They're expanding on the "party" thing and Bloomsberg is saying that Tsarnaev changed his tune and admitted that they planned an attack. But I thought he wasn't talking anymore?

But CNN says they had five pipe bombs and a really super plan that would have gone off without a hitch except for the whole cars needing gas thing

This article has some more details from the press conference. Apparently the info came from interrogation on Saturday and Sunday, that there was no actual plan but mostly a spontaneous discussion between Dzokhar and his brother:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/nyregion/new-york-was-boston-blast-suspects-next-target-officials-say.html?_r=0

toxicsunset
Sep 19, 2005

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Earwicker posted:

It's not as bad as, say, The Daily Mail, but it's not a place where one would ever expect quality journalism. It's commonly referred to as McPaper.

So commonly in fact that despite having delivered it to various stores and restaurants for 3 years, I've never heard anyone call it that

SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011

Earwicker posted:

It's not as bad as, say, The Daily Mail, but it's not a place where one would ever expect quality journalism. It's commonly referred to as McPaper.

I'd class it on par with the Independent. When I lived in the US we occasionally got free copies of it, and it was good enough to flick through before using it to line the bird's cage.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Samurai Sanders posted:

I wouldn't call USA Today a rag, its just written for a lower education audience than most newspapers.
It's also widely read by people who speak English as a second language. It's not prestigious journalism, but it's not a bad or heavily biased paper.

toby
Dec 4, 2002

Yeah I always thought of US News as like news for beginners or the barely-casually interested.

toxicsunset posted:

So commonly in fact that despite having delivered it to various stores and restaurants for 3 years, I've never heard anyone call it that
I guess you're the authority then. I suggest sending correction letters to all of these websites and people: http://www.google.com/search?q=mcpaper

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!
From the sound of it, they were planning on laying low for a while and maybe making some more bombs (the one they threw during the chase, the one the cops have), and then eventually picking another target. Then when they got outed on the news, and knew they could be identified any time, they took a few hours to gather their poo poo and jumped on the road.

What really worries me now is that it's been demonstrated as a big story in the media how 'easy' it is to make a homemade IED and set it off, that we're much more likely to see crazy copy-cat attacks like school shootings. :(

MD2020
May 30, 2003

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.
USA Today is the only paper in America that's not afraid to tell the truth, that everything is just fine.

vivisectvnv
Aug 5, 2003
Sooo, i'm a bit confused with how little brother got that nasty throat/facial wound. Reports are now saying to weapon was found in the boat, so was he shot/injured during the whole HIDDEN IN A BOAT escapade? I remember hearing the whole "we are fyring dummy round in da boat!" Where they perhaps firing rubber bullets? And that was sufficient to pierce the skin?

toxicsunset
Sep 19, 2005

BUY MORE CRABS

toby posted:

Yeah I always thought of US News as like news for beginners or the barely-casually interested.

I guess you're the authority then. I suggest sending correction letters to all of these websites and people: http://www.google.com/search?q=mcpaper

The second page already starts wth the irrelevant results and a quick search on twitter has about two uses per day, half of those are german or derogatory names for mcdondalds food comparing them to paper. It's more common than I thought, but if I went to the average person on the street and mentioned "the mcpaper", they'd look at me like an alien most likely

jalopybrown
Oct 11, 2012

vivisectvnv posted:

Sooo, i'm a bit confused with how little brother got that nasty throat/facial wound. Reports are now saying to weapon was found in the boat, so was he shot/injured during the whole HIDDEN IN A BOAT escapade? I remember hearing the whole "we are fyring dummy round in da boat!" Where they perhaps firing rubber bullets? And that was sufficient to pierce the skin?

I thought he only had an exit wound too? That must have been a pretty lucky shot to just whizz into his open mouth and then out the neck.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Maybe he'd heard "eat a gun" as a method of suicide but didn't quite understand what it meant so he disassembled and swallowed the thing

vivisectvnv
Aug 5, 2003
Ha! Guess guy just probably tried to crudely stab himself in the jugular.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
So you think Reddit is going to be getting a civil suit against them?

MD2020
May 30, 2003

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

the posted:

So you think Reddit is going to be getting a civil suit against them?

I know they would just serve their office/headquarters, but now I want to see a process server track down and serve all the reeditors that participated in this.

Crashbee
May 15, 2007

Stupid people are great at winning arguments, because they're too stupid to realize they've lost.

jalopybrown posted:

I thought he only had an exit wound too? That must have been a pretty lucky shot to just whizz into his open mouth and then out the neck.

Would his mouth have to be open? A bullet could've gone right through his jaw/teeth, couldn't it? (I know nothing about guns)

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
I can't wait for the SVU episode...

jalopybrown
Oct 11, 2012

Crashbee posted:

Would his mouth have to be open? A bullet could've gone right through his jaw/teeth, couldn't it?

They said he only had a wound to the back of his neck though didn't they?

Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

Crashbee posted:

Would his mouth have to be open? A bullet could've gone right through his jaw/teeth, couldn't it? (I know nothing about guns)

That would have counted as some sort of entrance wound, I think, and I feel like maybe that would have been put out there already if it had been noticed.

Though I guess :tinfoil: maybe they want us to think he tried to kill himself :tinfoil:

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

the posted:

So you think Reddit is going to be getting a civil suit against them?

MD2020 posted:

I know they would just serve their office/headquarters, but now I want to see a process server track down and serve all the reeditors that participated in this.

How would that make any sense? Reddit is only one of many websites - including this one - where people were doing that internet detective poo poo.

Plus someone would have to prove damages. I think the actual news sources that were running photos of "suspects" would be a more likely target but even then it would be a pretty big stretch.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Once Jeff gets out of the hospital we should buy him an account with platinum and all the bells and whistles.

MD2020
May 30, 2003

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Earwicker posted:

How would that make any sense? Reddit is only one of many websites - including this one - where people were doing that internet detective poo poo.

Plus someone would have to prove damages. I think the actual news sources that were running photos of "suspects" would be a more likely target but even then it would be a pretty big stretch.

I don't care; I just want to see some process server track down some fedora-wearing goof while he's making a new rage comic regarding how he's been friendzoned again.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

brylcreem posted:

If this has been discussed to death, feel free to tell me to shut up.

I'm suspiscious almost to the point of paranoia about unattended bags in public places. I will actively ask people around me if they recognize a specific bag.

I just wonder if no one did this in this case? How long time passed between the placing of the bags and the explosions?

To many people, "unattended" doesn't mean "on the ground at a large public event". It's normal for many people to put their bags on the ground in that situation just as it's normal for them to put their bags on the floor when travelling on a packed train during peak hour.

A bag left in a train carriage or on a bus after everyone's alighted will trigger "if you see something, say something" thoughts. A bag that is obviously out of place - in a garbage bin, for instance - will make people nervous. But there are many situations in which bags sitting around without their owners holding onto them is entirely normal and expected (here, pretty much every situation in which there are a lot of people crammed into a limited space).

Is it a good or a bad thing that we've gotten over the paranoia which existed in the immediate aftermath of September 11 2001 (and here, during the Sydney Olympics the year before), where there were daily reports of "suspicious packages" being found? Well, we still don't have garbage bins on many of our railway station platforms here, but I don't think that makes us inherently safer. We've learned to go about our daily business without fear again over the last 12 years and overall I believe that's a good thing.

And yeah, add me to the ranks of people disturbed by the assumption that this young man will spend the rest of his life in supermax. A guiding principal of most modern criminal justice systems is that people are sent to prison as punishment not for punishment. The isolation of prisoners should always be rare, for the shortest time possible, and constantly reviewed.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

GWBBQ posted:

It's also widely read by people who speak English as a second language. It's not prestigious journalism, but it's not a bad or heavily biased paper.

It may actually be the least-biased paper around. Their biggest subscriber demographic is hotels that give it to customers for free so the publishers has a profit motive to piss off as few readers as possible where a regular newspaper may find it more profitable to bias themselves to attract a particular ideology. Like everyone else said though, this approach doesn't result in great journalism.

big duck equals goose
Nov 7, 2006

by XyloJW

MD2020 posted:

I know they would just serve their office/headquarters, but now I want to see a process server track down and serve all the reeditors that participated in this.

Noooo... I owe this family countless money! Now how am I going to get my child pornography and fedora collection completed!?! - The wailing cry of a thousand reddit users clawing out their eyes.

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

I think the person who posted the first "I HEARD SUNIL'S NAME ON THE SCANNER" could face a suit.

Horrorosaurus
Oct 22, 2010

Retail Slave posted:

Once Jeff gets out of the hospital we should buy him an account with platinum and all the bells and whistles.

Yes he would be so thrilled to be a part of our echo chamber.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Kazy posted:

I think the person who posted the first "I HEARD SUNIL'S NAME ON THE SCANNER" could face a suit.

That would be a very difficult suit to win. For one thing, many news sources continue to state that the names were mentioned on a police scanner, so you'd have to first prove that they weren't, and then prove that the very first person to tweet about it (who may not be easy to track down) did so with the malicious intent to smear Sunil's name.

edit: ok apparently it's known who the very first person to tweet about it was: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/04/it-wasnt-sunil-tripathi-the-anatomy-of-a-misinformation-disaster/275155/ - however you'd still have to prove that he was intentionally trying to smear Tripathi's name

Earwicker fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Apr 25, 2013

Miss Futz
Aug 8, 2006
Who exactly did the naked dude turn out to be? I figured they'd stripped him to make sure he wasn't wearing any explosives, but now it seems like he's been completely dropped from the whole story (sans all the conspiracy sites that are going ape over it).

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Captain Mog
Jun 17, 2011

uncle spero posted:

Imagine, even if they succeed, his victory will mean the rest of his life inside this:



I read an article recently written by a guy who has spent 30 or so years in similar solitary confinement after killing a police officer in a courtroom during his robbery trial. Really frightening stuff. Even if this guy's lawyers win, he still loses.


e: Nevermind, sorry for the potential derail-inducing post.

How long will his trial drag out, when all is said and done? A few years? Where will he be kept until then?

Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Apr 25, 2013

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