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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:But but ACES HIGH and ROYAL FLUSH and INSERT POKER REFERENCE HERE. Poker? Not if it is Loras.
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Urdnot Fire posted:I don't mind the Theon/Reek inclusion because a) it gave us the awesome line "My real father lost his head at King's Landing. I chose wrong", which is the most self-aware thing and makes Theon so much more likeable For me that was actually one of the most hokey, sappy, and out-of-character lines this season so far, along with Catelyn's  heartfelt confession about feeling guilty for how she treated Jon. It's cringeworthy lines like that that really take me out of it and make the show feel more like a corny ABC Family soap, so I hope they really dial those back or just cut them out entirely as it adds nothing to either the characters or the narrative.
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May 8, 2013 18:59
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drat, really? I thought book Catelyn's unflinching Jon Snow hate was lazy as poo poo. She's a mother of 4 who never gives a second thought to taking out all her hate for her husbands supposed infedelity on a toddler/pre-teen while fawning over the guy who actually did it? The idea that she tried to not take it out on him but couldn't help herself is way more believable. Not that I'm defending HOW it came about or the acting but I find that way easier to accept.
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May 8, 2013 19:08
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Joramun posted:For me that was actually one of the most hokey, sappy, and out-of-character lines this season so far, along with Catelyn's Yes, Theon resolving his internal dilemma that drove his character in the first 2 seasons is the sappy ABC Family moment. Seriously dude what 
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Rarity posted:Yes, Theon resolving his internal dilemma that drove his character in the first 2 seasons is the sappy ABC Family moment. IT'S NOT IN THE BOOKS
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May 8, 2013 19:33
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Rarity posted:Yes, Theon resolving his internal dilemma that drove his character in the first 2 seasons is the sappy ABC Family moment. "out of character" must mean "out of book character" because it's precisely in character to the TV show version.
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May 8, 2013 19:49
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Holy Calamity! posted:IT'S NOT IN THE BOOKS Some of the other show-exclusive dialogue this season has been great. Especially Olenna's and Margaery's, the latter of whom I find an insufferable brat in the books who can't die soon enough (like the show version of Ygritte), but is immensely likable on the show. Though that was to be expected, considering it's Natalie Dormer and she is incapable of being anything but wonderful.
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May 8, 2013 19:50
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Book Margaery was a brat? I never got that sense at all, but maybe I was doing too much discounting of Cersei's perspective?
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May 8, 2013 19:54
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Rarity posted:Thank you for getting banned and making the show threads a better place Wow, is that saying much? rypakal posted:"out of character" must mean "out of book character" because it's precisely in character to the TV show version. Maybe you tv folks should keep tv chat in the tviv thread. Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 20:01 on May 8, 2013 |
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May 8, 2013 19:58
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Book Margaery is easier to understand as a tool of her grandmother and family, and someone who actually knows how to play that role for some success as opposed to Cersei. It's hard to tell how ignorant she is of all of it, which is pretty interesting. Whereas show Margaery was like I'm in it to win it coming hard as a motherfucker.
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May 8, 2013 20:03
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Show-Marge is really canny, it makes it seem like her family are all political psychos. Except Loras, the big dumb nancy boy, poncing about with his dead boyfriend.
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May 8, 2013 20:56
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Show Marge is definitely my favourite adaptation choice. She's great.
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May 8, 2013 20:59
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Show Cersei and Show Margery are going to be great in the AFFC parts of season 5(?). As I'm sure they'll tune down some of the Cersei total craziness.
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May 8, 2013 21:03
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Holy Calamity! posted:IT'S NOT IN THE BOOKS Theon does come to terms with the fact he'd rather be a Stark than a Greyjoy in ADWD so that scene in the show is not exactly made up, just really early. Unless you're referring to the Catelyn/Jon Snow bit, which obviously isn't. It's not clear.
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May 8, 2013 21:06
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Aurain posted:Theon does come to terms with the fact he'd rather be a Stark than a Greyjoy in ADWD so that scene in the show is not exactly made up, just really early. I kinda feel like Cat being humanized like that is gonna make her being a haggard water-soaked undead thing suck a lot more. So props for that show writers. Really twist the loving knife.
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May 8, 2013 21:10
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Junkenstein posted:Show Marge is definitely my favourite adaptation choice. She's great. Mine too, along with Melisandre and Joffrey. Also Robert and Renly, if we're counting characters that are sadly no longer with us.
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May 8, 2013 21:10
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Joramun posted:Mine too, along with Melisandre and Joffrey. Everyone who dies got a great actor, Ned, Robb, Tywin, etc.
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May 8, 2013 21:14
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El Hefe posted:Everyone who dies got a great actor, Ned, Robb, Tywin, etc. Everyone except Ygritte.
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May 8, 2013 21:17
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Joramun posted:Everyone except Ygritte. Yeah I don't like her either.
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May 8, 2013 21:19
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I think my favorite adaptation moment was Stannis going all grammar Nazi on Davos. That's so
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May 8, 2013 21:21
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El Hefe posted:Everyone who dies got a great actor, Ned, Robb, Tywin, etc. Are we watching the same Game of Thrones?
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May 8, 2013 21:23
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Are we watching the same Game of Thrones? I'm a straight man but i'd gently caress him.
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May 8, 2013 21:25
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Joramun posted:Everyone except Ygritte. I don't get the hate, what's wrong with TV Ygritte?
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May 8, 2013 21:34
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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I don't mind her that much personally, but she's in the Kit Harrington camp of "can't convincingly put on a false accent" to me. Rose Leslie is a proper middle class girl who grew up at an English private school and speaks like it. She's actually Scottish born, and there are incredibly few people who speak like she does in real life with her accent in Scotland. Her accent sounds fake as all heck, where all the better actors either use their real accents, like Charles Dance and Sean Bean. Jon and Ygritte in the show are a perfect blend of can't act but look good. She's using her speaking voice in this E: clarification Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 21:45 on May 8, 2013 |
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May 8, 2013 21:40
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I counter every argument you make about her accent with the way she says "tongue". Instant boner.
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May 8, 2013 21:45
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I don't like Ygritte because she's annoying. I disliked her in the book, too. 
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Aurain posted:I don't mind her that much personally, but she's in the Kit Harrington camp of "can't convincingly put on a false accent" to me. Yeah, I knew that wasn't her actual accent, but that's why it pays to be North American. Most of us never notice that their accents aren't 'correct'. 
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May 8, 2013 22:14
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PittTheElder posted:Yeah, I knew that wasn't her actual accent, but that's why it pays to be North American. Most of us never notice that their accents aren't 'correct'. What's "correct". What's "real" and "fake? This isn't Downton Abbey. As long as they keep reasonably close to the same accent I'm fine.
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May 8, 2013 22:21
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Accent chat in a fantasy series is goofy as hell.
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May 8, 2013 22:22
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Clearly Roy Dotrice should've voiced all the characters, then you guys would be happy. Bry-YEEN Or would you rather have Ros' actress take over as Ygritte?
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May 8, 2013 22:37
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rypakal posted:What's "correct". What's "real" and "fake? This isn't Downton Abbey. As long as they keep reasonably close to the same accent I'm fine. Whatever Aurain wants them to be I guess? I have never thought to complain about accents. Didn't even notice Littlefinger's changing around a bunch which reportedly happened.
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May 8, 2013 23:08
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Just as many arrows end up in both of them Also book Ros was better
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I was talking about the last episode with 4 friends who have not read the books and none of them could figure out who the dude torturing Theon really was. They have a hard enough time remembering all the different names that they couldn't possibly take note of which sigils appear on whose banners. They also only watch each episode once, so any history or relationships that are mentioned but not part of the main plots get immediately forgotten.
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CaptainRightful posted:I was talking about the last episode with 4 friends who have not read the books and none of them could figure out who the dude torturing Theon really was. They have a hard enough time remembering all the different names that they couldn't possibly take note of which sigils appear on whose banners. They also only watch each episode once, so any history or relationships that are mentioned but not part of the main plots get immediately forgotten. There's pretty much no way for a casual viewer to remember all the characters names and affiliations and all the bullshit without consulting the viewers guide or sperging in an online forum.
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Realistically speaking the Reach and the North shouldn't even be speaking the same language, and if they somehow did speak the same language the accents should be as disparate as a Texan accent vs an Indian accent. But because of Tolkien, all fantasy must use British English of some variety or other. Everyone falling into the same umbrella of "British accents that Americans can still understand" is enough of a stretch that any other complaints pale in comparison.
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I always imagined the crannogmen as having Cajun accents, the Iron Islands being kinda Scandinavian, and the Crownlands being Tidewater Virginia. I suspect literally nobody else in the world had the same accents in mind when reading the books as I did though.
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May 9, 2013 01:25
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equity posted:Accent chat in a fantasy series is goofy as hell. Yeah, they have Westerosi accents, fools!
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Another thing that is irksome about the show: Everything's desaturated and muted as gently caress. Hey, remember all those colourful passages about clothes and food and nature? Nope, everything brownyellowblackwhite. But Hey. Hey, what do we say about the showchat motherfuckers. Only Ponies (shoves HBO out a moon door).
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SaviourX posted:Another thing that is irksome about the show: Everything's desaturated and muted as gently caress. Hey, remember all those colourful passages about clothes and food and nature? Nope, everything brownyellowblackwhite. gently caress you, no one wants to remember those passages. I imagine everyone in the books speaking grammatically correct American English like myself, except for mai waifu~ Margaery who is a carbon copy of Asuka Langley Soryu
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Why she got Ls in her name if she asian, b?
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