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Basil Hayden
Oct 9, 2012

1921!

Phlegmish posted:

I didn't realize there were Mayans living as far north as Tamaulipas.

The Huastec (native name Tenek) have been separated geographically from the rest of the Mayans for quite some time, and had an independent civilization around the Panuco River no later than about 900 BC. Their language is unambiguously Mayan though.

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Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Hedera Helix posted:

Why are there two Washingtons?

For whatever reason they awarded Oregon the Columbia drainage even though giving the Columbia to Washington and the Willamette and Klamath to Oregon would probably be a better break.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

I imagine there's a fair number of young people moving away from Montana as well.

Lycus posted:

Lots of retired ex-Soviet immigrants.

:golfclap:

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

HookShot posted:

I was once in a bank in Australia where a guy at the teller next to me was trying to cash a cheque and was having problems with it, and he kept asking the teller why they wrote New York twice on the address, how arrogant that was of Americans and all that sort of thing.

Also once I went shopping in Watertown when I lived in Ottawa and told my husband who was in Australia that I was going to New York to do some shopping, and when I came back and told him about it he was all excited and wanted to know what New York was like, it took a while before we realized I was talking about the state and he didn't realize there was a state and thought I'd gone to NYC.

I thought Luxembourg was a city state when I was a kid, granted it's not that much bigger but still.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

made of bees posted:

Florida is an obvious one, but what the hell is going on with Montana?

A lot of Montana like the Missoula and Flathead Lake area has cheap land and mild winters. It's really a pretty nice area.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Dusseldorf posted:

A lot of Montana like the Missoula and Flathead Lake area has cheap land and mild winters. It's really a pretty nice area.

My fiancee lives in Bozeman and we're planning to live there when we marry next year. Montana doesn't come anyone's mind when "great places to live" are mentioned but even as someone who has no special affection for nature the place is absolutely amazing. I'm completely able to believe that retired folks would go to Montana for the outdoorsy stuff and general QOL with loads of land for low prices and so on, rather than heading down to Florida.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011


White English-speaking Protestants from Minnesota vs. white English-speaking Protestants from Iowa with slightly different political opinions: special separate diverse nations.

Native peoples with diverse histories, languages, cultures, beliefs, and practices: eh, whatever they're all the same, might as well just lump them together since no civilized person can understand their jibberjabber anyway.

Ugh.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
I don't get the thinking of linking the "Midlands" US with Ontario. They don't even seem to mention Ontario in the link.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Lycus posted:

I don't get the thinking of linking the "Midlands" US with Ontario. They don't even seem to mention Ontario in the link.

You could make a good case for pushing Ontario in with the Great Lakes area in general, but then you wouldn't be able to claim Minnesota as part of Greater Massachusetts.

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go

Fandyien posted:

I got this from a great subreddit that is absolute fodder for this thread, reddit.com/r/mapporn.

"Percent of population over 65"



The only other website as capable of derailing any D&D thread is the flags subreddit.

I thought Arizona was supposed to be the 2nd Florida, in terms of old people?

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Farecoal posted:

I thought Arizona was supposed to be the 2nd Florida, in terms of old people?

Arizona has more younger immigration than Florida too, and a whole lot of its retirees are seasonal and go back to their permanent residences in the Midwest or Canada for the summer. I imagine that pushes it down.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

VitalSigns posted:

Native peoples with diverse histories, languages, cultures, beliefs, and practices: eh, whatever they're all the same, might as well just lump them together since no civilized person can understand their jibberjabber anyway.

Ugh.

Somehow I doubt that's the meaning the author intended.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Squalid posted:

Somehow I doubt that's the meaning the author intended.

When you think Anchorage and the Navajo Reservation belongs in the same category it doesn't really matter what your intentions are.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Squalid posted:

Somehow I doubt that's the meaning the author intended.

Nah, he just seems to consider the only meaningful national differences that exist are between white people.

There are majority African-American counties in Mississippi and Alabama, but apparently they're pretty much the same as the white Southernors around them. But Eastern and Western Nebraska? Wow, so different they may as well be separate nations! Truly the differences among white Protestants are so fundamental that we're a regular Austro-Hungarian multinational empire!

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:
What I'm getting from this thread is that my map of a balkanized US + Canada is superior to this one.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

VitalSigns posted:

Nah, he just seems to consider the only meaningful national differences that exist are between white people.

There are majority African-American counties in Mississippi and Alabama, but apparently they're pretty much the same as the white Southernors around them. But Eastern and Western Nebraska? Wow, so different they may as well be separate nations! Truly the differences among white Protestants are so fundamental that we're a regular Austro-Hungarian multinational empire!

More likely analyzing those differences was outside the scope of his project. I have not and will not read the article btw, but then again I don't think very many of us have.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Fandyien posted:

I like flags and maps and stuff enough that it seems worth it to me.

The U.S. if states were divided according to watersheds:


I didn't realize that there was a watershed that perfectly followed 49th parallel and the Gadsden Purchase :v:

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
I wonder how they'd feel in New York City knowing that they are now residents of New Jersey.

CellBlock
Oct 6, 2005

It just don't stop.



Lycus posted:

I wonder how they'd feel in New York City knowing that they are now residents of New Jersey.

Considering that version of New Jersey consists pretty much only of NYC, I'd bet they'd probably be just fine after some adjustment.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

I like how the state of Ohio does not actually contain the Ohio River.

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

Kurtofan posted:

It would be interesting to see the difference between Ireland and Northern Ireland.

Europe is pretty drat old.

1946 was the year with the largest amount of childbirths in Norway, I suspect the situation was similar in most of Europe.

ulvir fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Nov 12, 2013

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Kurtofan posted:

It would be interesting to see the difference between Ireland and Northern Ireland.

Europe is pretty drat old.

Northern Ireland is ~15% over 65 so it'd be Norway's color.

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


SaltyJesus posted:

Stolen from D&D pics thread:


Why did south-central Mexico end up as a big region of Spanish names? It looks to roughly overlap the Aztec Empire, so are those all Cortes' doing?

On that note, there's something odd about everywhere but the old Aztec territory having Nahuatl names.

Lord Hydronium fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Nov 12, 2013

Basil Hayden
Oct 9, 2012

1921!

Lord Hydronium posted:

Why did south-central Mexico end up as a big region of Spanish names? It looks to roughly overlap the Aztec Empire, so are those all Cortes' doing?

Guerrero, Hidalgo and Morelos, at least, are named after Mexican War of Independence figures and were created from parts of other states in the 1800s.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Veracruz comes from the capital city (also Veracruz), which was named by Cortés because of a holy day or something. Puebla is short for the capital city (Puebla de los Ángeles) which came from vision a bishop had of angels descending from the heavens at the spot where the city was founded.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Squalid posted:

More likely analyzing those differences was outside the scope of his project. I have not and will not read the article btw, but then again I don't think very many of us have.

I don't see how the indigenous nations that still exist are irrelevant to a paper on the nations of North America but okay. Surely African American culture in America is within the scope of his project though, right? Let's see what he says about this region

Colin Woodward posted:

Deep South: Established by English slave lords from Barbados, Deep South was meant as a West Indies–style slave society. This nation offered a version of classical Republicanism modeled on the slave states of the ancient world, where democracy was the privilege of the few and enslavement the natural lot of the many. Its caste systems smashed by outside intervention, it continues to fight against expanded federal powers, taxes on capital and the wealthy, and environmental, labor, and consumer regulations.
Ah yes Shelby County, Alabama: noted bastion of States' Rights with a population known to hate when the Feds come down enforcing everyone's right to vote and get an education. Well, maybe there just aren't enough plurality African ancestry counties to be worth a separate analysis...

Oh hmm. Well I guess he is only interested in the important cultures in the South, not any county's majority culture. Well then.

VVVV
:goonsay: No! I have a duty to explain why in detail until everyone agrees how bad it is! It keeps showing up on my social feeds and I can't stand it.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Nov 13, 2013

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



We get it, the guy's map is stupid.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

VitalSigns posted:

I don't see how the indigenous nations that still exist are irrelevant to a paper on the nations of North America but okay. Surely African American culture in America is within the scope of his project though, right? Let's see what he says about this region


It is if his paper is only on estadounidenses blancos. That description, and the other peanut president posted, was pretty bad though. The borders of his "nations" mostly seem to match maps of North American dialects. Mostly, it has some weird spots.

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax

HookShot posted:

I was once in a bank in Australia where a guy at the teller next to me was trying to cash a cheque and was having problems with it, and he kept asking the teller why they wrote New York twice on the address, how arrogant that was of Americans and all that sort of thing.

Also once I went shopping in Watertown when I lived in Ottawa and told my husband who was in Australia that I was going to New York to do some shopping, and when I came back and told him about it he was all excited and wanted to know what New York was like, it took a while before we realized I was talking about the state and he didn't realize there was a state and thought I'd gone to NYC.

Well how was NY?

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

For extra confusion, there's cities in the US with the names of entirely different states. Have fun visiting Michigan, Wyoming and California!

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
My favorite city name in California is definitely City of Industry. Commonly referred to as just "Industry", there's just something amusingly straightforward about the name that simply tickles my funnybone. It certainly lives up to the name too, as according to Wikipedia:

quote:

Home to over 2,500 businesses and 80,000 jobs,[5] but only 219 residents at the 2010 census—down from 777 residents in 2000—the city is almost entirely industrial.

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Ofaloaf posted:

For extra confusion, there's cities in the US with the names of entirely different states. Have fun visiting Michigan, Wyoming and California!

Don't forget Indiana, PA, Jersey Shore, PA (about 200 miles from the Jersey Shore), Washington, PA (x2 at least), California, PA, there's too many, I'm done.

Plinkey fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Nov 13, 2013

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Ofaloaf posted:

For extra confusion, there's cities in the US with the names of entirely different states. Have fun visiting Michigan, Wyoming and California!
Wyoming the state is actually named after the Wyoming Valley in Pennsylvania, which is where Wyoming, PA is located.

Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!

Ofaloaf posted:

For extra confusion, there's cities in the US with the names of entirely different states. Have fun visiting Michigan, Wyoming and California!

The fact that there is a Manhattan, Kansas continues to astound me.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

DrSunshine posted:

My favorite city name in California is definitely City of Industry. Commonly referred to as just "Industry", there's just something amusingly straightforward about the name that simply tickles my funnybone. It certainly lives up to the name too, as according to Wikipedia:

I can't wait for the next one to just cut to the chase and call itself Tax Haven, CA.

Vivian Darkbloom
Jul 14, 2004


DrSunshine posted:

My favorite city name in California is definitely City of Industry. Commonly referred to as just "Industry", there's just something amusingly straightforward about the name that simply tickles my funnybone. It certainly lives up to the name too, as according to Wikipedia:

I know we bash captains of Industry a lot on here, but..

quote:

The city of Industry had the highest support for Proposition 8 in all of Los Angeles county. The amendment, which banned same sex marriage in California, was supported by 83% of Industry voters, with 19 (83%) voting yes, and 4 (17%) voting no.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

DrSunshine posted:

My favorite city name in California is definitely City of Industry. Commonly referred to as just "Industry", there's just something amusingly straightforward about the name that simply tickles my funnybone. It certainly lives up to the name too, as according to Wikipedia:

My favorite one is the one where Penn State is located, State College, Pennsylvania.

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Plinkey posted:

Don't forget Indiana, PA, Jersey Shore, PA (about 200 miles from the Jersey Shore), Washington, PA (x2 at least), California, PA, there's too many, I'm done.

Wyoming is actually named after the valley in Pennyslvania.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



DrSunshine posted:

My favorite city name in California is definitely City of Industry. Commonly referred to as just "Industry", there's just something amusingly straightforward about the name that simply tickles my funnybone. It certainly lives up to the name too, as according to Wikipedia:

My favorite town in PA is King of Prussia, PA. It's not named after the King of Prussia, but rather the inn in the town that was called the King of Prussia Inn.

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DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

Plinkey posted:

Don't forget Indiana, PA, Jersey Shore, PA (about 200 miles from the Jersey Shore), Washington, PA (x2 at least), California, PA, there's too many, I'm done.


AFewBricksShy posted:

My favorite town in PA is King of Prussia, PA. It's not named after the King of Prussia, but rather the inn in the town that was called the King of Prussia Inn.

What IS the deal with Pennsylvania?!

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