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kitten smoothie posted:You have to either be invited, or gain access by "proving" you're a developer with characteristics that satisfy them. Brutal, I have a good enough github account to get randomly spammed by recruiters, but NOT good enough to rate having an SO careers account. The injustice I tell ya...
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Lurchington posted:Brutal, I have a good enough github account to get randomly spammed by recruiters, but NOT good enough to rate having an SO careers account. The injustice I tell ya... 
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Mar 3, 2014 03:08
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Strange, I got invited to SO Careers with not much in my GitHub and < 100 rep on SO. Didn't realize it was at all selective.
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Mar 3, 2014 03:21
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Yeah, I couldn't remember if I got in via SO or via Github, so I searched my Gmail. I got an invitation from SO themselves back in mid-2012, yet my account had been basically dormant for a year and had only ~150 rep.
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Mar 3, 2014 03:31
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I got my invite a couple of days after I hit 50 rep without even linking to a GitHub account, so I think they pretty much just invite anyone who uses SO enough to prove that they are not a bot.
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Mar 3, 2014 10:36
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Tunga posted:I got my invite a couple of days after I hit 50 rep without even linking to a GitHub account, so I think they pretty much just invite anyone who uses SO enough to prove that they are not a bot. Yea same here. I got it when I hit about 250 rep, and didn't link a GitHub account either...
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Mar 3, 2014 15:24
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I guess I need to sign up for SO instead of just using it. If anyone has invites I'd love one.
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Mar 3, 2014 15:32
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I got my invite a long time ago from having a not very active github account. My SO account has 1 rep/karma point or whatever they call it.
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Mar 3, 2014 15:44
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Is SO careers worth it? I hadn't even thought about it and never signed up as a member.
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Mar 3, 2014 18:15
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perfectfire posted:Is SO careers worth it? I hadn't even thought about it and never signed up as a member. It is the best job postings site for software developers, bar none.
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Mar 3, 2014 18:33
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double sulk posted:It is the best job postings site for software developers, bar none. Is it worth it if you don't actually contribute to Stackoverflow Q&A's? I've always been pretty intimidated because at my level I can't really compete with these in-depth encyclopaedia article-length responses I see that always getting the top answer. But if so, I'd love an invite if anyone has one to spare.
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Mar 3, 2014 20:27
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It's a job/profile board. It does let you link to you best question/answers but that's completely optional and you can still make a decent looking profile without that. The best thing is that their are no recruiters so no garbage spam.
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Mar 3, 2014 20:28
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FIHGT W HUBBY posted:Is it worth it if you don't actually contribute to Stackoverflow Q&A's? I've always been pretty intimidated because at my level I can't really compete with these in-depth encyclopaedia article-length responses I see that always getting the top answer. You can contribute quite easily without an extensive breadth of knowledge. There are so many dumb questions posted these days, I have over 1,000 rep and I don't think I've ever answered a really technically complicated question (only asked). Also, asking good questions is one of the best ways to increase your rep, if not the best.
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Mar 3, 2014 20:29
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You don't need to post on stackoverflow to use their job board. Also, look at some of the awful answers on javascript questions if you feel intimidated.
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Mar 3, 2014 20:34
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Okay, I guess my perception's biased since I usually end up there when it comes up as the first google result.
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Mar 3, 2014 20:49
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I didn't even know you needed an account. All I've done is look at the jobs and applied. I guess accounts are if you want to get recruited?
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Mar 3, 2014 21:04
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I'm not sure what to put for my "personal statement" in my SOCareers profile. What should I write?
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Mar 3, 2014 21:35
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Mine is like a sentence or two for each of: describing my experience, the technology areas that I like, my other interests.
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Mar 3, 2014 21:37
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Pollyanna posted:I'm not sure what to put for my "personal statement" in my SOCareers profile. What should I write? Describe your eternal longing to introduce recruiters the world over to goatse, your brand new open source project using Node and Rails.
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Mar 3, 2014 21:54
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What about the "experience" section? Should I include non-software jobs?
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Mar 3, 2014 23:12
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If it's something substantial like a non-software internship/actual job I would list it, if it's "worked at mcdonalds" then no you should not include it.
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Mar 3, 2014 23:17
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What's the best interactive code editor for interviewing someone? Doesn't have to compile but just want to see the person write some code.
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Mar 4, 2014 00:54
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http://collabedit.com/ http://www.firepad.io/#1 And of course a Google Doc will work.
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Mar 4, 2014 01:04
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What's the consensus on Codility, and companies that use it for a screening method?
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Mar 4, 2014 01:47
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So Google called me on technical project manager, went through phone interviews, and today finally get the results: very well on the tech interview, and not enough experience on large project management. So I'm pointed back at an engineering role, which is great by me and what I was originally after 
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Ithaqua posted:What's the consensus on Codility, and companies that use it for a screening method? I applied one place that used it. I found the timed online test submitted to a website rather anxiety-inducing, and would have been much happier talking through it as I solved it in front of their developers. The devs who interviewed me about it only seemed to have my score, not the detailed results (or how the score was calculated). I had to explain to them what the process was, and they said it sounded like it sucked.
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Mar 4, 2014 04:36
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Just a heads up, if you're reading Cracking the Coding Interview's section on "C and C++", disregard their explanation of the volatile qualifier and read the explanation given in The C Book or some other trustworthy reference instead. (The author uses kind of awkward nomenclature in the bit arithmetic section as well, but there's nothing misleading in that section).
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hedgecore posted:I applied one place that used it. I found the timed online test submitted to a website rather anxiety-inducing, and would have been much happier talking through it as I solved it in front of their developers. I actually quite like Codility versus the other online tests since it actually gives you a decent amount of time and judges you off of a bunch of criteria. You want to talk anxiety inducing, I once was given 15 minutes to code a problem, it was an easy problem too but not when you're given 15 minutes and have to code an actual working solution. I chose C++ for some stupid reason and it ran in to some odd error (didn't seem to be a compile error or exception, or it made it really hard to tell, who knows) even though I knew how to solve the problem. I ended up just going welp and kissing that job goodbye.
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention how it works if anyone's interested. You're given a problem and a very small example set of data. Before you submit a solution, the site will warn you if your code fails to run without errors, and if it passes/fails the sample set. You're then graded on how well your solution handles several (ten-ish, I believe) sets of data. They range in size from the example set to a very large set (I don't recall it actually informing you of the sample sizes). You're graded on if the result is correct and how long it took to reach that conclusion. If your solution takes too long, it not only fails for being too slow, but on correctness, it returns "TIMEOUT" or something, so you doubly fail. Of course, you don't see any of your results unless the person administering the test shares them with you.
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Is it normal to have a contract that says that I have to give three months' notice to quit but they only have to give me one month's notice to dispose of me? I'm in the UK if it matters. My previous job was one month on both sides.
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Tunga posted:Is it normal to have a contract that says that I have to give three months' notice to quit but they only have to give me one month's notice to dispose of me? I'm in the UK if it matters. My previous job was one month on both sides. I've heard of 3 months notice a few times, but if you don't like it, negotiate on it. Keep in mind they certainly can't force you to work for the full period, and while they *could* go to court if you quit early, they almost certainly won't.
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Mar 4, 2014 11:54
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Basically I already work here but as of the end of this week I am no longer on probation (during which the notice period was an equally unreasonable two months / two weeks) and I get a performance/pay review as a result. There's a bunch of stuff in my contract that I'm not really happy about so I'm just trying to figure out which parts are reasonable to try to renegotiate. My salary will be one. Some things in my favour are that I'm more than prepared to quit (and they know it), a bunch of other good devs have recently quit so they are trying to stop a stampede for the exit, my team lead keeps telling me how good he thinks I am.
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Tunga posted:(during which the notice period was an equally unreasonable two months / two weeks)...My salary will be one...a bunch of other good devs have recently quit so they are trying to stop a stampede for the exit Your employer sucks. Badly. Someone please confirm that getting notice periods that are effectively *worse* than at-will employment (longer period for leaving than getting fired!) aren't a common thing in the UK.
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Mar 4, 2014 12:38
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I'm pretty sure they aren't a common thing, but that's why I was asking. It seems entirely unreasonable. Coffeetable is also correct, nobody ever actually takes people to court for not working their notice, but it does generally mean you won't get a reference from them. My employer does suck but there are a couple of good reasons to stay here for a little while longer as long as they are willing to renegotiate some of this crap and pay me a bunch more. If not then I'm out of here.
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Mar 4, 2014 12:45
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If you're unhappy with ANY of the terms you should attempt to renegotiate them. The unequal notice thing bothers me, and I work in the States (though I suppose technically we have equal notice - that is, none at all is required by law on either side). It's less about the notice and more about rubbing in your face that they consider you inferior to them, which is really loving distasteful to me. It takes the business time to find a replacement after someone quits, and it takes an employee time to find a new job after getting fired; let's start the conversation from that common ground, shall we? Three months to one, give me a break.
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Mar 5, 2014 01:26
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3 months notice? Is that so they can hire someone the next month... then fire you?
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Mar 5, 2014 08:13
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No, this isn't like At Will Employment, in the UK you cannot simply dismiss someone for no reason and serve their notice. But if you are forced to downscale the business or restructure then it can be used if you go through a certain process to justify it. Or if the person doesn't perform to standard, for example, and you have been through the warning steps required. Basically the notice period applies to all situations except gross misconduct (where immediate summary dismissal is permitted). Dismissing someone during their notice period would last about five seconds in court. I still think it's bullshit to have a different notice on each side, and I'll certainly be raising all of my concerns.
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Tunga posted:No, this isn't like At Will Employment, in the UK you cannot simply dismiss someone for no reason and serve their notice. The point was that it's *worse*. In at-will, the notice periods are equal for both sides (0). In your case, you'll have to sit it on for 3 months if you find something better, while they can throw you on the street in one. quote:Dismissing someone during their notice period would last about five seconds in court. They just send you notice of their own while you're sitting out your period. Their period is shorter, after all.
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Did you read my post? It's illegal to "throw you on the street" and it's illegal to "just send you notice" in the UK. So no, those things can't happen. The employer's notice period exists for cases of fair dismissal where there was no gross misconduct. It's not a free ticket to fire an employee without cause. It's not the same situation as in the US.
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Oh wow, after reading up a bit on UK labor law I understand what you mean and I have to say this makes those strange notice periods more understandable, given that an employee would effectively have much more advance warning than just their notice that their job is on the line. If I read this correctly it's almost impossible to fire someone in the UK because (for example) they're a misfit. I'm currently in a very socialist country in Europe but there's no need to give a reason to fire people here, you just need to respect the notice period.
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