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KomradeX posted:Or if that's not "oppressiony" enough for, assembled or extracted by what amounts to slave labor in the developing world.   Anyway, derails into debating oppression and worker-owner relationships aside, I got a new old crazy political forward:   $174,000 FOR LIFE**It's not actually that amount for life.
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Clearly Social Security because there are a lot more seniors than any of the other groups. They're not even working for christ's sake!
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If Barack Obama lives to be 92 years old, from now until the day he dies at $450,000 per year he will collect $18,000,000. If they instead used that money to pay for seniors on social security to get $12,000 each, that would pay for a whole 1,500 seniors, for one year. Maybe, instead, the cuts should begin with the $682,000,000,000 the United States spent on the military in 2013.
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vyelkin posted:If Barack Obama lives to be 92 years old, from now until the day he dies at $450,000 per year he will collect $18,000,000. This would be great copied into the same format and used as a direct response. Could copying the format that be a systemic approach to responding to these textual image memes? Based on the oppression conversation, I'm going to go ahead and say my additional evaluation of Mornacale's statement was correct- it was in fact categorical.
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Mo_Steel posted:
Those numbers have gone up since the first version of that image I've seen and they weren't even accurate then.
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Fulchrum posted:I don't buy EA games. Try again. Yeah that's a strawman, I even put right there that the oppression you partake in is not something people are going to be up in arms about because it's a societal thing. Whereas exploiting third-world labour for electronics is something we shouldn't really pretend we don't benefit from. Bill Gates does some seriously good stuff with his charity. Going through his business history, however, it's clear he's not a great person. If you want to interpret that as "kill everybody" then you're projecting a hilarious amount in the post I quoted. Also, hah, EA. loving EA. That's what you jump to. Possibly the easiest example of a genuine #firstworldproblems bullshit argument in existence. Spangly A fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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Mar 25, 2014 03:34
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Oppression, moi? I always over pay for humble bundles.
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pd187 posted:I made a thing
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Having worked with TBI patients I don't know whether to find that hilarious or offensive so I'm going with hilarious.
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Mar 25, 2014 03:58
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:This is amazing and if you don't mind I'm stealing it. Please do!
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Mar 25, 2014 04:02
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I have a friend who got a traumatic brain injury and now has the mind of a child. He tried to add me as a family member on his facebook timeline. He thinks we're brothers.
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Cpt.Americant posted:To be fair, these investments are to get a return on investment so the charity can have more money to do more things, not because they agree with those particular companies. So what if they're using say Exxon to make money if they use that money for good? If they could only invest in stocks from 100% ethical companies that no one has a problem with they would only invest in: "It's not true that you can't make lots of money without oppressing people!" "The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation needs to invest in oppressive companies in order to make lots of money!" 
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You should have seen those kids at 3 years old. edit: Have a blast from the past: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOMEUamYkc VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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Swan Oat posted:Can you really be said to care about fighting global warming when you have three quarters of a billion dollars in investment capital sunk into oil and gas? Or to care about fighting childhood obesity/promoting good nutrition when you have about two billion invested in McDonalds and Coke? That just reminds me of the kinds of attacks people use against Gore whenever he uses a jet or whatever that causes carbon emissions. Or attacking the Nobel peace prize because Alfred Nobel got rich from making explosives. Considering the foundation is almost fully geared to just two things (US education and global vaccination/health), and neither of those things are being hindered by what they invest in, I'm going to go and say it actually doesn't matter that much. Now if he were making money from some anti-vaccine "natural health" company I might agree with you, but neither global warming nor childhood obesity are really on their radar in any major way.
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19 o'clock posted:"AccomModate" This isn't as bad as misspelled tattoos, but I still love the idea that someone might have gone to the trouble of getting an intolerant message embroidered on his expensive leather jacket, and he misspelled it.
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I made some stupid Facebook post bitching about how the actors in the religious film Noah are pretty much all white. The upcoming movie Exodus has loving Aaron Paul from Breaking Bad, and Christian Bale, as Joseph and loving Moses. Whitewashing film, yay. Oddly enough the only person to disagree with my words, who is religious, is Mormon. The others on FB who are Christian agreed that no, Moses would not be white, and no, Noah would not be white. The Mormon chimed in that 'everyone who read the Hunger Games books was mad because Rue was cast as a black girl, but she wasn't black, people need to stop seeing race and appreciate a movie for story and actors." Cause we're the real racists, right?
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Cowslips Warren posted:I made some stupid Facebook post bitching about how the actors in the religious film Noah are pretty much all white. The upcoming movie Exodus has loving Aaron Paul from Breaking Bad, and Christian Bale, as Joseph and loving Moses. Whitewashing film, yay. But Rue was black in the book.
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Forgall posted:But Rue was black in the book. "Nu-uh, they just talk about he being very brown, with very curly hair, and that she and her family live in the district that represents post reconstruction sharecropping in the south. Clearly she was just a white girl with a farmer's tan!  "
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gently caress, wasn't Katniss herself pretty tan/brown? I thought at least she was biracial. She wasn't white. Has there ever been a major movie where Jesus was black? I imagine there would be a high outcry and backlash about that.
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Cowslips Warren posted:gently caress, wasn't Katniss herself pretty tan/brown? I thought at least she was biracial. She wasn't white. Dogma didn't show Jesus as black, but the characters in that movie sure made it seem that way. I don't think too many CP posters would even know that that movie exists, though.
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EightBit posted:Dogma didn't show Jesus as black, but the characters in that movie sure made it seem that way. I don't think too many CP posters would even know that that movie exists, though. "Knew him? poo poo, nigga owes me 12 bucks". I remember there being a bit of an uproar when Dogma came out, I'm guessing now people would just shake their head and denounce it as LIEberal lies about our One True White God.
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EightBit posted:Dogma didn't show Jesus as black, but the characters in that movie sure made it seem that way. I don't think too many CP posters would even know that that movie exists, though. "White folks only want to hear the good poo poo: life eternal, a place in God's Heaven. But as soon as they hear they're getting this good poo poo from a black Jesus, they freak. And that, my friends, is called hypocrisy. A black man can steal your stereo, but he can't be your Savior."
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Cowslips Warren posted:gently caress, wasn't Katniss herself pretty tan/brown? I thought at least she was biracial. She wasn't white. Katniss and the people she lived near were described as olive, if memory serves. It's never explicitly stated but given that she lives in a hilly, forested coal region I'm going to guess that the intent was that District 12 people were descended from the various Slavs that settled in and around PA. In the book Katniss is from the working class, which is olive-skinned, and there is a higher merchant-ish class that's generally white. But yeah, Katniss was in that category of kind-of, sort-of white people. Olive-skinned folks are lumped in with Caucasians but not necessarily treated like they're white.
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http://www.cbcpnews.com/cbcpnews/?p=32904quote:GUBAT, Sorsogon, March 24, 2014 – It seems almost like conventional wisdom to many, but according to a well-known obstetrician and gynecologist, vaccines may not exactly be the best safeguard against diseases. I'm goddamn floored. This isn't some fringe group of whackjobs filing the story, CBCP stands for the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines 
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Cowslips Warren posted:gently caress, wasn't Katniss herself pretty tan/brown? I thought at least she was biracial. She wasn't white. Not a movie but there's going to be a live action TV show airing soon on Adult Swim called "Black Jesus" which is about Jesus living in modern day Compton.
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gradenko_2000 posted:http://www.cbcpnews.com/cbcpnews/?p=32904 Well good god loving dammit. The last thing I need beyond anti-vaxers on my facebook are Catholics starting to jump on the anti-vax train. I hope this is relegated to some 3rd world morons and not an emergent trend in modern Catholicism.
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gradenko_2000 posted:http://www.cbcpnews.com/cbcpnews/?p=32904 This shouldn't be particularly surprising- there isn't fantastic centralized control of the bishops conferences, and they're laypeople vulnerable to the arguments of fringe medical opinions, just like anyone else. Crain posted:Well good god loving dammit. The last thing I need beyond anti-vaxers on my facebook are Catholics starting to jump on the anti-vax train. I hope this is relegated to some 3rd world morons and not an emergent trend in modern Catholicism. It's going to be limited to the third world. But it's not because they're morons, or because they're Catholic- they just don't have the same advantages of education and access to competing views that we have. The folks deserving blame here are the cited source, Doctors For Life Philippines. I can't tell where they get their funding, and they might be an honest to goodness homebrew group of doctors in the region looking for thing to associate their fears of abortion with. There's no indication they have any affiliation with other similarly named antiabortion Christian clinician groups.
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Anti-vax is some brilliant population control by the Illuminati. It ensures that stupid/gullible people will be the first to die off (and by destroying herd immunity they'll take lots of other people with them). Meanwhile the shapeshifting elite are vaccinated and can avoid the diseased masses.
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The Vatican has never stated anything against vaccinations and frankly I don't see why they would. They're generally OK with scientific development as long as killing babies isn't involved in the process (Hence why they are mistakenly against stem cells).
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RagnarokAngel posted:The Vatican has never stated anything against vaccinations and frankly I don't see why they would. They're generally OK with scientific development as long as killing babies isn't involved in the process (Hence why they are mistakenly against stem cells). I think the Vatican is against embryonic stem cells rather specifically. I think the anti-stem cell fervor came about because people think that non-embryonic bodies don't have stem cells, which is absurd. Adults have stem cells. They aren't always easy to find and aren't as good as embryonic stem cells but really, the rhetoric used by some of the far right was "stem cells only come from murdered babies, we must stop this!!!!" The Vatican has become increasingly pro-science but the religious right as a whole is very anti-progress. It gets very muddled because different sects of Christianity have radically different views on science. Do remember that there are some sects that think that all medicine is inherently wrong and preventing people from dying ever is interfering with God's plan. Because I guess God's plan involves large numbers of children dying very young of easily preventable diseases.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Do remember that there are some sects that think that all medicine is inherently wrong and preventing people from dying ever is interfering with God's plan. Because I guess God's plan involves large numbers of children dying very young of easily preventable diseases. Does this extend to things like wearing seat belts or bringing life vests on a boat? Is farming an insult to God because you're not trusting Him to send manna from heaven if it's really His plan that you have food?
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VitalSigns posted:Does this extend to things like wearing seat belts or bringing life vests on a boat? Is farming an insult to God because you're not trusting Him to send manna from heaven if it's really His plan that you have food? I've heard of a (severely depressed) religious person claiming they didn't pay taxes or buy insurance for a decade because "If God wanted me to, he would've told me" - it was like they gave up on life and attributed their troubles to lacking God's favor. Of course eating food and getting out of bed to go through the motions of life contradict it logically, but depressive thinking coupled with magical thinking must be pretty awful. Living like a junkie without any bliss.
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VitalSigns posted:Does this extend to things like wearing seat belts or bringing life vests on a boat? Is farming an insult to God because you're not trusting Him to send manna from heaven if it's really His plan that you have food? Man it's almost as though far-right anti-progressives are generally more concerned with prolonging existing power structures than any sort of scriptural or ethical coherency or something.
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My new go-to reply to religious people ranting about welfare, vaccines, or medical reform is "Just like Jesus said." Ranting about how you hate your tax dollars going toward feeling welfare babies... "Just like Jesus said, only feed the hungry if you judge them worthy." Ranting about how medical science is just out to make you sicker... "Just like Jesus said, only administer to the sick if no one could make a profit off of it." Ranting about ACA and how the poors should get a job if they want insurance... "Just like Jesus said, help the poor if they get a job." It shuts people up really quick. I know it's snarky, but for some of the people I interact with it's the only way to get them to stop for a second.
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Radish posted:The response to that I've heard is "Jesus didn't want the government to force you!" which highlights that honestly Christian charity is often about scoring personal heaven points and isn't concerned with actually ending suffering. Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was a Christian nation.
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Radish posted:The response to that I've heard is "Jesus didn't want the government to force you!" which highlights that honestly Christian charity is often about scoring personal heaven points and isn't concerned with actually ending suffering. You can always try and goad them into anti-semitism by saying that Rabbi Moses Mimonides said that the best kind of charity is the one given anonymously, and what is more anonymous than paying taxes and supporting welfare policies?
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gradenko_2000 posted:http://www.cbcpnews.com/cbcpnews/?p=32904 As I understand it, it was largely due to the influence of Catholic clergy in Africa that led to the resurgence of polio. Radish posted:The response to that I've heard is "Jesus didn't want the government to force you!" which highlights that honestly Christian charity is often about scoring personal heaven points and isn't concerned with actually ending suffering. "Just like Jesus said, don't pay your taxes. Mark 12:17"
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I just got this gem from my mother:quote:So how about this. Government single-payer system uses aborted babies for heat hospitals. Soylent Green anyone? This is disgusting. Abortion is murder, and to use human remains to stay "green" is an abomination against God and humanity. Send this to everyone who says we can't tell a woman what to do with her body. Along with this link. Has anyone who's been listening to Glenn and Rush heard this one? I'm assuming that she got it from them. She gets most of her ideas from them. I'm trying not to respond and brutally dissect her little rant point by point. I'm not sure why I'm so bothered by this one. Maybe it's because she knows I'm pro-choice and sent this only and specifically to me. That little dig at the end about "everyone who says we can't tell a woman what to do with her body" is really something else.
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