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Bisse posted:Gigantic Rei. Succinct and heartfelt.
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The reactions were just as good as I imagined they'd be! Now go watch the Rebuilds. 
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May 20, 2014 19:16
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Oh my god I am laughing and crying right now. These reactions are just that good.
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May 20, 2014 19:43
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Why do people keep insisting the show has two endings? 1. Everyone gets juiced. 2. Congratulations. 3. Shinji unjuices himself. The final part of Rebuild better have a good payoff.
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May 20, 2014 19:50
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Bisse are you going to watch the Rebuild series as well? 
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May 20, 2014 21:28
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Bisse posted:R...real life? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qv0fUQ5m48 Shazaminator fucked around with this message at 22:18 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 22:10
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Holy poo poo that was perfect  I'm actually really surprised that you didn't know the ending was completely batshit insane going in. "CONGRATULATIONS" is generally one of the very first things anyone learns about NGE, especially if they learn about it from nerds. Like, my first memory of ever hearing about NGE was when I was like 7 and got an anime catalog with a GamePro issue that advertised the Manga release of EoE as basically "the non-lovely ending to NGE." e: vvv That picture is amazing SALT CURES HAM fucked around with this message at 23:27 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 22:18
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 The reaction is exactly what I was hoping for, brilliant stuff.  Temascos fucked around with this message at 22:36 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 22:31
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Truly the best 7 minutes and 43 seconds in animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCLoNOYcVQU
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May 21, 2014 01:35
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I always consider 25/26 to be Shinji's experience when he turns into the tree of life and just before he comes out of it and wakes up next to Asuka. I would love an extended EoE where someone's edited those episodes in to make truly complete and hopefully more coherent Eva ending.
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May 21, 2014 02:05
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Stalins Moustache posted:Truly the best 7 minutes and 43 seconds in animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCLoNOYcVQU I'm not really into Evangelion or anime in general anymore, but no matter how my tastes change, I'll always loving love this song.
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May 21, 2014 02:12
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Kavak posted:I'm not really into Evangelion or anime in general anymore, but no matter how my tastes change, I'll always loving love this song. That sequence is pretty good. You wonder how they could possibly transition out of that, and then you get the one thing you probably never expected in an animated film. Also, requisite congratulations video for Bisse of the American VA expressing his confusion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hzjuf686oA
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May 21, 2014 02:50
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Facepalm Ranger posted:I always consider 25/26 to be Shinji's experience when he turns into the tree of life and just before he comes out of it and wakes up next to Asuka. There's an edit out there that some Eva fansite made that did exactly that. The beginning and middle are fine but the end kinda falls apart.
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May 21, 2014 03:44
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Squallege posted:There's an edit out there that some Eva fansite made that did exactly that. The beginning and middle are fine but the end kinda falls apart. That's a shame.
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May 21, 2014 04:01
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Kavak posted:I'm not really into Evangelion or anime in general anymore, but no matter how my tastes change, I'll always loving love this song. It's really a good song, but somehow not what I would have picked for the soundtrack to the end of the world.
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May 21, 2014 04:04
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While the TV and EoE endings can work together, I will always insist that they are different and not perfectly compatible. In EoE, Shinji rejects Instrumentality. In the series, Shinji appears to accept it and this acceptance is greeted by the applause of everyone around him - alive or dead - in a strange, bizarre landscape.
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May 21, 2014 04:08
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Facepalm Ranger posted:That's a shame. Not really. Fan edits are horrible ideas with universally horrible executions that try to make things what nerds think they should be because they can't accept things as they are. Like Gendo. Instrumentality is his fan-edit of evolution.
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May 21, 2014 04:08
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Milky Moor posted:While the TV and EoE endings can work together, I will always insist that they are different and not perfectly compatible. In EoE, Shinji rejects Instrumentality. In the series, Shinji appears to accept it and this acceptance is greeted by the applause of everyone around him - alive or dead - in a strange, bizarre landscape. He rejects Instrumentality in both versions. Pay attention to the dialogue in 25+26, a large part of it is about how human beings need contrast and separation between each other in order to have meaning and accepting pain is an unavoidable part of that.
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May 21, 2014 04:13
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Milky Moor posted:While the TV and EoE endings can work together, I will always insist that they are different and not perfectly compatible. In EoE, Shinji rejects Instrumentality. In the series, Shinji appears to accept it and this acceptance is greeted by the applause of everyone around him - alive or dead - in a strange, bizarre landscape.
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The read I like re: "Congratulations!" is that it's Yui wearing multiple faces again in order to encourage Shinji / show him how she envisions his future. There's no hard evidence for it but it fits the timeline and her motives and it wouldn't be the first time she's done something like that.
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May 21, 2014 04:30
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Bisse posted:End of Eva trip report: All is right in the world. Now get your friends to do a blind watch.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:The read I like re: "Congratulations!" is that it's Yui wearing multiple faces again in order to encourage Shinji / show him how she envisions his future. There's no hard evidence for it but it fits the timeline and her motives and it wouldn't be the first time she's done something like that. Something I'd kind of like to ask because I still don't feel like I really 'get' Yui - is there any reason at all to like her, really? Everyone in the show who talks about her seems to paint her as some sort of heavenly, stabilizing force, but from what I've read about what people think her actual motives are and what she visibly does in EoE, I'm kind of left wondering if she's not just Gendo, only where Gendo is manipulative, nihilistic, and bitter, Yui is manipulative, nihilistic, and serene.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Something I'd kind of like to ask because I still don't feel like I really 'get' Yui - is there any reason at all to like her, really? Everyone in the show who talks about her seems to paint her as some sort of heavenly, stabilizing force, but from what I've read about what people think her actual motives are and what she visibly does in EoE, I'm kind of left wondering if she's not just Gendo, only where Gendo is manipulative, nihilistic, and bitter, Yui is manipulative, nihilistic, and serene. I don't think you're meant to "like" Yui. Instrumentality was her idea, she got sucked into the Eva intentionally and Gendo and Fuyutski's whole careers have been dedicated been carrying out her plan.
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Robotnik Nudes posted:I don't think you're meant to "like" Yui. Instrumentality was her idea, she got sucked into the Eva intentionally and Gendo and Fuyutski's whole careers have been dedicated been carrying out her plan. Yeah, it's not so much about 'liking' her so much as it is about sympathizing with her. Most of the portrayals we get of her in the actual show are pretty sympathetic in tone because we're seeing her through the lens of people like Gendo or Shinji or Fuyutsuki who kind of revere her in their own ways, which makes it kind of jarring to me when I notice how little she seems to really differentiate her outlook or actions from those of SEELE or Gendo, all of whom can heartily get hosed.
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May 21, 2014 05:31
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Spiritus Nox posted:Something I'd kind of like to ask because I still don't feel like I really 'get' Yui - is there any reason at all to like her, really? Everyone in the show who talks about her seems to paint her as some sort of heavenly, stabilizing force, but from what I've read about what people think her actual motives are and what she visibly does in EoE, I'm kind of left wondering if she's not just Gendo, only where Gendo is manipulative, nihilistic, and bitter, Yui is manipulative, nihilistic, and serene. Yui isn't nihilistic. She and Gendo are kind of an interesting pair because Gendo is ridiculously, pathologically optimistic: he thinks he can outsmart everyone, control everyone, play the apocalypse into his hands, and he's arrogant enough to think he can do it alone. The funny part is that he's so very close to being right: he fails, ultimately, because he didn't consider what Yui and Rei wanted and gets shot down at the very end. Yui is just the opposite. She's actually a decent human being, especially compared to Gendo, although at the same time she's a horrible mother. Instrumentality wasn't precisely her idea; she was a member of SEELE, and knew about the Dead Sea Scrolls and the prophecy, at least to the point where she knew the world was going to end and that selfish, arrogant men would try to take advantage of it. So in order to both protect herself and her child she went willingly into Unit-01 (Fuyutsuki confirms this in EoE) with a plan of her own. It's hard to say exactly what that plan was without referring to dubious side material but if not for her Shinji probably wouldn't have been able to stop and partially reverse Instrumentality. Her flaw, in my opinion, is that she's actually too pessimistic. It never seems to have occurred to Yui to actually fight SEELE head-on, like Gendo did. Her plan may have been for Shinji's sake, but she still goes into hiding, traumatizes her son, and doesn't seem to have told Gendo anything. She accepts that Third Impact will happen no matter what and focuses solely on controlling the damage. So they both end up as these incredibly powerful figures who nearly win on their own terms, but their inability/refusal to communicate means that they only screw things up for each other and fail just short of their goals (Gendo) or set goals far short of what they might have realized (Yui). Sound like anybody else we know? 
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The key difference between them, though, is that Yui did have enough foresight/perspective to realize that having every single person join into a collective consciousness without any warning or consent could be incredibly loving traumatic, and thus left open a way for them to return to a state of individuality if they so chose. Not saying that necessarily makes her a paragon of morality, but that consideration put her leagues ahead of SEELE and Gendo, who just didn't give a poo poo if people wanted it or not.
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Yeah, the thing that made Instrumentality evil wasn't the inherent concept of it, but rather everyone being forced into it, instead of being able to choose whether or not they want it. Yui's actions are the reason why that choice was available to everyone.
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May 21, 2014 10:28
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Bisse posted:End of Eva trip report: No one gives a gently caress about the plot dude, did you even notice how pretty it was and well done the music and sound work was? That's what's important.
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. Whup, she died.
I understand nothing
I'm actually rewatching EoE right now and fuuuuuck I forgot how brutal Asuka getting torn apart was.  e: Jesus, Shinji loving snaps when he sees Unit 02. That loving screaming
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I had my mother watch Rebuild. She seemed to like it. EDIT: She's a psychologist. Maybe that helped. BattleCattle fucked around with this message at 22:51 on May 21, 2014 |
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May 21, 2014 22:29
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BattleCattle posted:I had my mother watch Rebuild. She seemed to like it. Have her watch the series and End of Eva and post her reactions in this thread.
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Two Worlds posted:Have her watch the series and End of Eva and post her reactions in this thread. I would, but she lives quite a while away, and I can only see her a day or two at a time. I'd rather our limited time together was spent on things other than anime: Rebuild was a special case, since it's in a very digestible 2-hour-per-view form. Also, I let my brother borrow my box set, so he'd have something to watch in Korea. His reaction was very much what you'd expect. "  "
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Seriously man, we could probably do a whole video series on YouTube just filming people's reactions to Evangelion.
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Kids React To: Evangelion
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So I started dating someone, and they mentioned to me that they had acquired NGE and are going in almost completely blind. They know that it gets hosed up towards the end and that Madoka is sorta vaguely like it but other than that and me telling them to keep me updated on their reactions to it, they have no clue what they're getting into.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:So I started dating someone, and they mentioned to me that they had acquired NGE and are going in almost completely blind. They know that it gets hosed up towards the end and that Madoka is sorta vaguely like it but other than that and me telling them to keep me updated on their reactions to it, they have no clue what they're getting into. You should be watching it alongside them to watch the reactions in realtime dude
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Now Blisse has caught up, (minus Rebuilds) this is a good time to drop that awesome video about Asuka's biggest fan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzvIn0mdXtY
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Ak Gara posted:Now Blisse has caught up, (minus Rebuilds) this is a good time to drop that awesome video about Asuka's biggest fan. Hey, that woman sounds familiar.
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BattleCattle posted:Hey, that woman sounds familiar. She has an actual official custom made plug suit.
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Ak Gara posted:She has an actual official custom made plug suit. That's amazing! She IS a huge fan! Edit: Oh, that's where I know her from! Gamera 3! BattleCattle fucked around with this message at 20:54 on May 23, 2014 |
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