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Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Fruity Gordo posted:

Oh right sorry mang, I was yelling at your supervisors, then. What a bullshit bit of coursework.

Yeah. Still, anyone who would read my piece would obviously see how Howard was all about a singular, European narrative that celebrated Australia and relegated any other perspective into a bin labelled 'other', that Rudd and Gillard tried to - and with the National Curriculum succeeded to - broaden it out to a plurality of viewpoints, and with Abbott coming into it we're seemingly likely to face a more aggressive push for something similar to the Howard era, if not worse.

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 21:55

Nibbles!: Jun 26, 2008; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please

My money is on worse. Didn't Pyne or Abbott actually use the words 'white guilt' when describing the curriculum?

# ? May 29, 2014 16:01

Cleretic: Feb 3, 2010; Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

I've said this before, but I took history during the late Howard years (in fact the last history course I took was in 2007), and that curriculum was borderline useless at everything, including its intended goal.

I realized it did two things to screw over my perception of history for a good while:
1. Zero grasp of scope or scale. Very little of actual historical interest or import was taught in those years, probably in large part because, in the time period post-colonization and pre-Federation, there wasn't a huge amount of stuff happening (I assume there was horrible stuff happening to the aboriginals, but it was never mentioned) and post-Federation we were a bit part on the world stage. To fill out the curriculum, they seemed to make fairly big deals out of fairly small things. I was essentially educated entirely on footnotes of history, which led to an abysmal knowledge of actual history. I still don't know the proper sequence of events in World War 1, because there was such a colossal focus on Gallipoli that the extent of my knowledge beyond it was 'the Somme was probably important'. I remember half of a history test that I didn't do well in was to draw a diagram of a WWI Australian trench, given equal weighting to the entire rest of WWI.

2. No knowledge of failures. Somehow, the over-focus on key Australian historical events managed to miss key elements of actually important events, such as 'who won'. I didn't know we lost at Gallipoli until some point after I dropped history as a subject; I didn't know the Eureka Stockade was an abysmal failure until last year, when I was researching it myself to tell an American friend why the Australian mech in Pacific Rim had its name. The self-aggrandizing nature of the whole curriculum screwed it up so much that had difficulty conveying a fact as clear-cut as which side won.

# ? May 29, 2014 16:26

plumpy hole lever: Aug 8, 2003; ♥ Anime is real ♥

Cleretic posted:

I've said this before, but I took history during the late Howard years (in fact the last history course I took was in 2007), and that curriculum was borderline useless at everything, including its intended goal.

I realized it did two things to screw over my perception of history for a good while:
1. Zero grasp of scope or scale. Very little of actual historical interest or import was taught in those years, probably in large part because, in the time period post-colonization and pre-Federation, there wasn't a huge amount of stuff happening (I assume there was horrible stuff happening to the aboriginals, but it was never mentioned) and post-Federation we were a bit part on the world stage. To fill out the curriculum, they seemed to make fairly big deals out of fairly small things. I was basically educated entirely on footnotes of history, which led to an abysmal knowledge of actual history. I still don't know the proper sequence of events in World War 1, because there was such a colossal focus on Gallipoli that the extent of my knowledge beyond it was 'the Somme was probably important'. I remember half of a history test that I didn't do well in was to draw a diagram of a WWI Australian trench, given equal weighting to the entire rest of WWI.

2. No knowledge of failures. Somehow, the over-focus on key Australian historical events managed to miss key elements of actually important events, such as 'who won'. I didn't know we lost at Gallipoli until some point after I dropped history as a subject; I didn't know the Eureka Stockade was an abysmal failure until last year, when I was researching it myself to tell an American friend why the Australian mech in Pacific Rim had its name. The self-aggrandizing nature of the whole curriculum screwed it up so much that had difficulty conveying a fact as clear-cut as which side won.

Seconding all of this. My big assignment for history WWI was "write a diary like you are a soldier in the trenches and describe the conditions you are living in". No idea at all why we lost in particular, and I still don't even really know

There was zero discussion of what turkey was doing in the war, or even who the different big players were

what a loving joke

somehow i made it through all of school without hearing the phrase "eureka stockade" mentioned once

# ? May 29, 2014 16:29

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Cleretic posted:

I've said this before, but I took history during the late Howard years (in fact the last history course I took was in 2007), and that curriculum was borderline useless at everything, including its intended goal.

I realized it did two things to screw over my perception of history for a good while:
1. Zero grasp of scope or scale. Very little of actual historical interest or import was taught in those years, probably in large part because, in the time period post-colonization and pre-Federation, there wasn't a huge amount of stuff happening (I assume there was horrible stuff happening to the aboriginals, but it was never mentioned) and post-Federation we were a bit part on the world stage. To fill out the curriculum, they seemed to make fairly big deals out of fairly small things. I was essentially educated entirely on footnotes of history, which led to an abysmal knowledge of actual history. I still don't know the proper sequence of events in World War 1, because there was such a colossal focus on Gallipoli that the extent of my knowledge beyond it was 'the Somme was probably important'. I remember half of a history test that I didn't do well in was to draw a diagram of a WWI Australian trench, given equal weighting to the entire rest of WWI.

2. No knowledge of failures. Somehow, the over-focus on key Australian historical events managed to miss key elements of actually important events, such as 'who won'. I didn't know we lost at Gallipoli until some point after I dropped history as a subject; I didn't know the Eureka Stockade was an abysmal failure until last year, when I was researching it myself to tell an American friend why the Australian mech in Pacific Rim had its name. The self-aggrandizing nature of the whole curriculum screwed it up so much that had difficulty conveying a fact as clear-cut as which side won.

No, that's pretty much it. A 2006 Guide to Teaching History in the senior years featured 77 'milestone events' that should be taught. Of these seventy seven, only five referred to anything that could concern Indigenous Australians (and the heading First Peoples also included a Milestone that referred to the Dutch discovering Australia, y'know, firmly indicating that there is Our history and Their history), only one referred to refugees (and only in the Vietnamese context) and only one referred to multiculturalism at all (in the sense that SBS, the multicultural broadcaster, was established on a certain year). The whole thing is just a long list of dates and events and a long list of names for each period that teachers should 'look up'. That's what Howard wanted to teach. Aboriginal perspectives, gender perspectives and environmental perspectives are basically said to be referred to 'when directly relevant' (read: never) and weren't actually mandated to be used in any capacity. They're sort of thrown in at the end of the paper in a list with zero detail.

Like many other people from a time like you, Cleretic, I only really learned a few things about Australian history (Gallipoli, mainly), all of which were repeated year after year after year.

Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 17:01 on May 29, 2014

# ? May 29, 2014 16:59

Gough Suppressant: Nov 14, 2008

What I took from australian history as taught to me in primary and high school:

some captain had to stop his ship because he was crook and thus called the place bottomy bay there were some black people around but they weren't realy organised or something and were glad to have white people come and teach them how to be human beings then the gold rush happened and some chinese people came to australia to make dim sims at the eureka stockade at the time although it wasn't called australia because that only happened after we defeated the turks at gallipoli amen

# ? May 29, 2014 17:04

Anarchist Mae: Nov 5, 2009; by Reene; Lipstick Apathy

Publicly schooled, but I think I got better history lessons than that, it was oddly Vietnam focused, although I don't know what was taught for history in years 11-12 because I dropped out. Also I didn't pay attention in class.

This song is probably the most significant thing I took away from all of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEKiqcuIkAc

Makes me angry just listening to it.

# ? May 29, 2014 17:32

Gough Suppressant: Nov 14, 2008

I left primary school in...98 I think?

My Australian history lessons literally started at colonisation and ended at WW1.

# ? May 29, 2014 17:36

Calico Noose: Jun 26, 2010

Chris Pynes Knob posted:

Seconding all of this. My big assignment for history WWI was "write a diary like you are a soldier in the trenches and describe the conditions you are living in". No idea at all why we lost in particular, and I still don't even really know

I remember in Year 9 history having to write an essay about Gallipoli and being a lazy smart arse I basically tried to write an essay where 5th word was Mateship.... I got an A

# ? May 29, 2014 17:40

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Been a while, I remember doing stuff like the Myall Creek Massacre though.

On the other hand, apparently "you live in Australia" was an insufficient answer for what it means to be an Australian.

# ? May 29, 2014 17:46

HookShot: Dec 26, 2005

I'm ignoring all elementary history classes.

Grade 8 was Europe in the Dark/Middle Ages, up to about the enlightenment, my guess in an attempt to make history interesting for 13 year old because KNIGHTS!! and FIGHTING!!

Grade 9 and 10 was Canadian history, where we learned that Canadian history is the most boring piece of crap ever. I literally remember almost none of it because even thinking about the Treaty of Versailles puts me to sleep. We did learn that we massacred our aboriginal people though, and had to do projects on one group of them. And also we were really racist against the Chinese and Japanese in Vancouver.

Grade 11 was WWI. Finally, back to interesting poo poo. Also, we had to learn how our government works now.

Grade 12 was WWII and communism, the curriculum ended at 1991. My Grade 12 history teacher would have to photocopy stuff from another book though and hand it out once we hit around 1980 though because that was when our textbook was published so it didn't have any information on anything after that.

# ? May 29, 2014 17:47

dr_rat: Jun 4, 2001

Not sure if it was in the curriculum or if I just end up with a few good history teachers but I was at a public school in the late 90's in Melbourne, and I remember classes on the the black line/genocide in Tasmania as well as the Massacres on the mainland, the stolen generation and the effect on aboriginal communities that had, as well as just the general lack of rights and treatment of aboriginals throughout recent Australian history. Think it would of only been a semester we studied it but I remember the content being pretty decent for high school level.

We still covered Gallipoli/Ned kelly/Eureka stockade for what felt like far to long though. I also seem to remember covering ancient Egypt in year 7 or 8 for whatever reason.

HookShot posted:

And also we were really racist against the Chinese and Japanese in Vancouver.

Oh yeah we learnt about how we did that too! Well about being really raciest against the Chinese, I don't recall them mentioning past Australians feelings regarding the Japaneses, but it sort of went without saying that they would of been dicks to them as well.

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 18:32 on May 29, 2014

# ? May 29, 2014 18:12

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

You had some odd curriculums. Year 8 for me was, as much as I can recall, stone age through to the bronze age. I don't remember year 9 all that well but there was some Australian colonial history and some classical era Europe, but year 10 was modern age, and in year 11 I took Modern History: Revolutions which covered 5 revolutions, earliest the Industrial, latest I think the Russian, and the American was in there as well, also took History through Film which looked at how history was presented using 5 films. Year 12 I did modern world history and my final project was about freedom fighters, where I talked about the partisans and the afghan mujahideen. In September 2000 :tinfoil:

Funnily enough, my history teacher in 8, 10 and both 11 subjects apparently refused to stand for the minute silence in 2001 because he "had little sympathy for where American Imperialism had gotten them" or some such. Private school too. Very much not a conservative, and is the sole reason I find referencing in essays the easiest thing in the world, because he taught us how to do it properly from year 8 onwards, didn't understand how other Uni students could be so baffled.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 18:43 on May 29, 2014

# ? May 29, 2014 18:40

gay picnic defence: Oct 5, 2009; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...0529-397d3.html

quote:

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has begun personal meetings with the Senate crossbenchers who will decide the fate of the budget - but novice politician Ricky Muir is refusing to play ball.

The elusive senator-elect has declined an invitation for a one-on-one meeting because, he said, he cannot get time off from his job at a rural sawmill in regional Victoria.

# ? May 29, 2014 22:18

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

Gough Suppressant posted:

What I took from australian history as taught to me in primary and high school:

some captain had to stop his ship because he was crook and thus called the place bottomy bay there were some black people around but they weren't realy organised or something and were glad to have white people come and teach them how to be human beings then the gold rush happened and some chinese people came to australia to make dim sims at the eureka stockade at the time although it wasn't called australia because that only happened after we defeated the turks at gallipoli amen

My high school history classes started with the Battle of Hastings in 1066 :gonk:

Then they only did Colonial Australia after that for two years, nothing about the Federation of Australia or the first two decades of the Australian Parliament. I made sure my last history teacher heard about my boredom of going over Colonial Australia for the umpteenth time. I wanted to know about Australia's involvement in World War 1, as both my dad's dad and my mama's brother fought in it, and it made no sense to me at that time why Australia was involved.

# ? May 29, 2014 23:33

Bifauxnen: Aug 12, 2010; Curses! Foiled again!

gay picnic defence posted:

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...0529-397d3.html

Does Abbott expect him to pull a sickie and betray his noble job creator? Why, I never! :monocle:

# ? May 29, 2014 23:35

V for Vegas: Sep 1, 2004; THUNDERDOME LOSER

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Been a while, I remember doing stuff like the Myall Creek Massacre though.

On the other hand, apparently "you live in Australia" was an insufficient answer for what it means to be an Australian.

I actually lived near Myall Creek and was never taught about it in school.

# ? May 29, 2014 23:41

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Budget sell tactic #254645345: It was Labor's idea and they are hypocrites

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/labor-championed-doctor-copayment-fees/story-fn59nokw-1226936529457 (has to be the Arse, they're the ones shilling)

quote:

Labor championed doctor co-payment fees

Michael McKenna and Stefanie Balogh
The Australian
May 30, 2014 12:00AM

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SENIOR Labor leaders have championed for years the introduction of the user-pays system for medical services now vehemently opposed by the party, with the former Beattie government in Queensland going as far as proposing an $800 fee for overnight hospital admissions.

As Tony Abbott accused federal Labor frontbencher Jenny Macklin yesterday of being the �mother of the co-payment�� after advising the Hawke government on its plans for a $3.50 Medicare charge in 1991 � documents show that in 2005 the Queensland government considered billing patients $50 for same-day admissions and more for overnight hospital visits. The documents have emerged as the Abbott government struggles to win parliamentary backing to introduce a $7 co-payment on GP services.

Then premier Peter Beattie commissioned modelling �to increase cost recovery from patients�� after a 2005 review of the state hospital system warned the system was financially unsustainable without new funding.

The push by Mr Beattie was blocked by then prime minister John Howard and Mr Abbott, then federal health minister, with the threat it would breach the Australian Health Care Agreement. The documents show the Beattie government ordered modelling for means testing and co-payments on a raft of free services, including non-urgent surgery, dental and specialist outpatient services.

Allen Consulting delivered a 140-page report, with the top being a �universal co-payment�� of $50 for �same-day admissions�� and $100 for �overnight admissions��. Another option was to exempt concession card holders and bill higher-income earners up to $800 for an overnight admission.

In an email, Mr Beattie � who in 2010 reiterated his support for a hospital co-payment to be billed to patients with private health insurance � said he ordered the modelling after the hospital review by Peter Forster.

�My recollection is it was to apply in accident and emergency departments in hospitals to encourage patients with minor ailments to visit and use their GP to save taxpayers money,�� he said.

�Tony Abbott was health minister and he threatened me with a breach of the Medicare agreement. How times have changed.��

Queensland Health Minister Lawrence Springborg said the current Liberal National Party government had ruled out a hospital co-payment.

�What�s really worrying for Queenslanders is that one of the people that helped commission this report is currently Labor�s shadow minister for health (Jo-Ann Miller), which underlines why Labor in this state cannot ever be trusted to protect taxpayer-funded free hospitals,�� he said.

In federal parliament yesterday, a row erupted between the government and Ms Macklin after Mr Abbott and Health Minister Peter Dutton accused her of being the �mother of the co-payment��.

The Prime Minister and Mr Dutton also pursued Labor�s �assistant Treasury spokesman, �Andrew Leigh, who more than a decade ago wrote in support of a price signal on Medicare services, saying it should be a charge that would �hardly hurt at all�� but make people �think twice before you call the doc��.

Ms Macklin, the opposition�s families and payments spokeswoman, took repeated offence at the Coalition�s attack, saying Mr Abbott and Mr Dutton had �wrongly accused me of supporting a Medicare co-payment. This is completely untrue��.

�As correctly reported in The Australian today, I was opposed to a Medicare co-payment in 1991 and I�m opposed to it today. And this was confirmed in the paper today by the then secretary of the department of finance, Dr Michael Keating,�� she said. Mr Abbott told question time Labor members knew in their �hearts�� a �modest co-payment is perfectly appropriate and sensible policy��.

�Not only do we have Bob Hawke as the father of the co-payment, we�ve got the member for Jagajaga (Ms Macklin) as the mother of the co-payment. The real authors of the co-payment are over there,�� Mr Abbott said.

Former health minister Brian Howe announced a $3.50 co-payment in August 1991, but it was ditched after Paul Keating toppled Mr Hawke as prime minister.

Mr Dutton said Mr Howe had explained that he was introducing the budget measure after receiving the preliminary findings of the �National Health Strategy. �It says for further information about the advice to the then government in relation to the co-payment, contact Jenny Macklin, director of the National Health Strategy.��

Mr Dutton and Mr Abbott also pointed out that Dr Leigh had previously voiced support for a co-payment in an opinion piece for The Sydney Morning Herald in April 2003. This month, Dr Leigh said his views had changed.

# ? May 29, 2014 23:58

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

It would be delicious if the Libs voted against it at the time.

# ? May 30, 2014 00:13

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Stuff to read:

Fairfax libel suite #3 (maybe)

Elder at his most sarcastic

That's about the same as Tony Jones per year. Is it any wonder senior journalists have more in common with those they report on than with us?

# ? May 30, 2014 00:53

adamantium|wang: Sep 14, 2003; Missing you

quote:

Coalition cuts refugee council funding despite budget promise
Anger at 'petty' decision to strip more than half a million dollars in funding the group had been allocated in the federal budget

Paul Farrell
theguardian.com, Friday 30 May 2014 09.55 AEST

The federal government has slashed funding for the Refugee Council of Australia by more than half a million dollars over the next four years despite approving the original sum in the 2014 budget.

The council is facing a $140,000-a-year shortfall after the immigration department said it would no longer be eligible for the funding allocated in the 2014 budget.

Paul Power, the chief executive of the council, said he received a phone call from the immigration department this week about the cut. He said an officer from the department told him the decision to strip the organisation of funding was made by the immigration minister, Scott Morrison.

�We are surprised that funding that was allocated in the budget and allowed for in the government�s forward estimates to 2018 would be removed without explanation,� Power said.

�This decision is petty and vindictive and is symbolic of the minister�s very poor relationship with the non-government sector. While we and other agencies maintain constructive dialogue with other members of the government, it is clear that Mr Morrison has little interest in the ideas and concerns of non-government agencies which support refugees and asylum seekers.�

The peak refugee group is a widely respected organisation that represents a broad range of groups involved in asylum seeker legal aid, community support, advocacy and counselling services.

Power said communication between its member organisations and the current government had never been poorer, and said the group would be seeking to raise funds from its supporters.

�The withdrawal of our core funding represents a tiny cost saving for the government � less than half of the annual salary of a minister � but is close to one quarter of our organisational budget,� he said.

A spokesman for Morrison said the decision was made �in light of the tight fiscal environment and budgetary constraints as a result of Labor's failed economic management that are having an impact on all government expenditure.''

Now moving on to stripping money from troublesome agencies that's already been allocated in the budget (while still blaming Labor).

# ? May 30, 2014 01:07

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

The worst thing about the history curriculum is that Australian history actually is interesting.

# ? May 30, 2014 01:08

Cleretic: Feb 3, 2010; Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

gay picnic defence posted:

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...0529-397d3.html

Seriously, can we just start making the movie based on this guy's life now? It'll be The Castle for a new generation. I'm picturing Patrick Brammall as Muir, maybe Shane Jacobson as Clive Palmer, and, of course, Vince Colossimo as Kerry Packer.

# ? May 30, 2014 01:12

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

telling the Prime Minister to gently caress off is a pretty solid start to his career in the Senate

# ? May 30, 2014 01:40

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Cleretic posted:

Seriously, can we just start making the movie based on this guy's life now? It'll be The Castle for a new generation. I'm picturing Patrick Brammall as Muir, maybe Shane Jacobson as Clive Palmer, and, of course, Vince Colossimo as Kerry Packer.

"There is a little bit of the whore in all of us, Ricky. What is your price?"

# ? May 30, 2014 01:52

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

Negligent posted:

telling the Prime Minister to gently caress off is a pretty solid start to his career in the Senate

"Hey Ricky, some dude calling himself Prime Minister is trying to call you"

"Tell him to gently caress off, I'm busy tuning the Commodore for the WinterNats"

# ? May 30, 2014 01:55

V for Vegas: Sep 1, 2004; THUNDERDOME LOSER

adamantium|wang posted:

Now moving on to stripping money from troublesome agencies that's already been allocated in the budget (while still blaming Labor).

$140,000. Over 4 years. Not even a rounding error on the budget.

# ? May 30, 2014 02:00

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

If there is a demand for it, the free market will support refugee agencies!
:goonsay:

# ? May 30, 2014 02:02

BogDew: Jun 14, 2006; E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

V for Vegas posted:

$140,000. Over 4 years. Not even a rounding error on the budget.

Hockey's Plan B for when the senate blocks the budget and they need cash.

# ? May 30, 2014 02:03

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Surely now they've removed the harsh regulations restricting charities the refugees will be adequately taken care of.

# ? May 30, 2014 02:03

Ragingsheep: Nov 7, 2009

If you stop all the boat people from reaching Australia, then there won't be any refugees and ergo no need to fund refugee advocacy. QED

# ? May 30, 2014 02:07

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Ghost Who Votes posted:

#Galaxy Poll

NSW State 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 53 (-5) ALP 47 (+5)

NSW State Primary Votes: L/NP 43 (-4) ALP 37 (+6) GRN 11 (0)

NSW Preferred Premier: Baird 43 Robertson 11

I'm assuming that the names of the party leaders were provided, since 11% of the population knowing who Robertson is seems a bit high.

E: Hahahahahah

quote:

NSW Who is the Premier: Baird 46 O'Farrell 9 Other 3

E2: Also

quote:

NSW Has there been more corruption under L/NP Govt than ALP: Yes 17 No change 47 More under ALP 25

Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 02:18 on May 30, 2014

# ? May 30, 2014 02:10

BrosephofArimathea: Jan 31, 2005; I've finally come to grips with the fact that the sky fucking fell.

Clugg posted:

So my maths lecturer got an article on the front page of The Age's website today:

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/tony-abbott-is-a-liar-its-a-mathematical-truth-20140529-zrs5h.html

Your maths lecturer is an absolute legend.

# ? May 30, 2014 02:22

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

quote:

Nauru detention: serious health risks to children revealed in confidential report
Guardian Australia exclusive:

� Barely any screening for communicable diseases in children; none for under-11s

� Children at �significant risk� of sexual abuse

� Most pregnant detainees are depressed

� Youngest unaccompanied child is nine

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/30/nauru-detention-serious-health-risks-to-children-revealed-in-confidential-report

# ? May 30, 2014 02:31

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/national-inquiry-children-immigration-detention

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...0203-31vni.html

Today is the last day for submissions. Even a one liner saying "Please can we stop being inhuman scum to children." would be worth your time.

# ? May 30, 2014 02:36

V for Vegas: Sep 1, 2004; THUNDERDOME LOSER

# ? May 30, 2014 02:37

Amoeba102: Jan 22, 2010

Doctor Spaceman posted:

I'm assuming that the names of the party leaders were provided, since 11% of the population knowing who Robertson is seems a bit high.

E: Hahahahahah

E2: Also

The teele is all on about how Baird would totally win an election today, blah blah blaah, oh gloriuous Mike Baird. Ignore the change from a 16% lead to a 6% lead with the ALP making a lot of ground.

# ? May 30, 2014 02:38

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

Here's a better direct link:

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/asylum-seekers-and-refugees/make-submission

Take the time to say you think we should stop being inhumane to children.

# ? May 30, 2014 02:39

Quantum Mechanic: Apr 25, 2010; Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
Waaaah the Christians are out to get me

lol abbottsgonnawin

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Galaxy

This is actually not quite as good as I expected :\ I was thinking the TPP would be closer than that and the Greens might be hitting a bit higher than 11%, although I guess we haven't started campaigning yet.

# ? May 30, 2014 03:03

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 21:55

adamantium|wang: Sep 14, 2003; Missing you

SynthOrange posted:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/30/nauru-detention-serious-health-risks-to-children-revealed-in-confidential-report

Jesus loving wept

# ? May 30, 2014 03:08

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