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10 | 4.55% |
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104 | 47.27% |
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Oladipo, Tony Parker and Kemba Walker stand out as weird vote-getters.
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Jun 2, 2014 21:55
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morestuff posted:Oladipo, Tony Parker and Kemba Walker stand out as weird vote-getters. They do? Over the back-up and stopgap players? Are writers still banned from homer picking, because how else is DeMarre Carrol getting any recognition.
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Jun 2, 2014 21:58
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JOhn Wall is going to have to make the playoffs before anyone remembers he is an elite PG.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:00
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They hating on Trevor Ariza 
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Jun 2, 2014 22:00
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Kibner posted:Anthony Davis got too many votes. Tony Allen not enough. Marc Gasol got disrespected, imo, with only 8 total votes and no first team. John Wall was similarly forgotten about. Gasol was hurt for a decent chunk of the year.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:01
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euphronius posted:JOhn Wall is going to have to make the playoffs before anyone remembers he is an elite PG. Are you thinking of a different John Wall.....
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Jun 2, 2014 22:02
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For those of us who are Dan Lebatard fans, here's the 2014 Pacers rant in video form: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzGbhsjD71Y
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Jun 2, 2014 22:02
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Phil Jackson was fined $25k for tampering with Derek Fisher I like that no one cared enough in these threads to even think about that as tampering before the fine happened.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:10
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euphronius posted:JOhn Wall is going to have to make the playoffs before anyone remembers he is an elite PG. Look I know the playoffs take forever but the Wizards made the second round it can't have been more than a month ago.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:11
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Wall's not an elite PG yet
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Jun 2, 2014 22:12
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Tae posted:Even at full health, Ibaka was rated as an average post defender. His strength is the ability to roam the court and block with his athleticism. In the same video you see Ibaka stuff several drives to the rim and that definitely had an effect on what the Spurs wanted to do.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:12
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Whoever voted Harden for defensive teams needs to have their votes stripped away next season. They clearly should be fired from their job.
Spacebump fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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Jun 2, 2014 22:12
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commy gun posted:Wall's not an elite PG one day he will be better than pat bev... one day
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Jun 2, 2014 22:14
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Spacebump posted:I like that no one cared enough in these threads to even think about that as tampering before the fine happened. We honestly should have seen it coming based on all the silly tampering fines Morey got last year and they were far less egregious than what Phil did.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:14
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If I could vote for any of these postseason awards I would only vote for Keith Bogans and James Harden and whoever to piss off people on the internet.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:18
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Not sure if this is Spurs fan bias, but Splitter really should have gotten votes. He's the more complete Spurs bigman defender at this point (I love Duncan, but he's nowhere near as good defending P&Rs nowadays), and despite not getting blocks, opposing players shoot a lower FG% at the rim on shots he's defending.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:20
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yo sports is goodTae posted:Even at full health, Ibaka was rated as an average post defender. His strength is the ability to roam the court and block with his athleticism. To expand on this, he's not especially strong and Tim Duncan is still quick enough that he can get shots off around Ibaka or create a bit of space for himself without being overwhelmed while also being able to straight up back him down underneath the basket. anakha posted:Not sure if this is Spurs fan bias, but Splitter really should have gotten votes. He should have, but it's impossible to watch every game and FG% at rim/on contested shots is not a stat that a lot of the voters look at and blocks are Panzeh posted:In the same video you see Ibaka stuff several drives to the rim and that definitely had an effect on what the Spurs wanted to do. This is also true. No one said Ibaka wasn't an important defensive piece for the Thunder (see points in the paint for the first two games) but putting Duncan on him was a mismatch.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:24
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Jordan Farmar looks like a skinny version of Turtle from EntourageRick posted:Take away whoever voted David Lee's vote. Find a fat old man who'll give you a rant about how defensive rebounds are the only way to end an opponent's possession and so are technically defense
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Jun 2, 2014 22:24
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WEREWAIF posted:Find a fat old man who'll give you a rant about how defensive rebounds are the only way to end an opponent's possession and so are technically defense That old man doesn't know about steals, blocks, offensive fouls, turnovers, or the ball going out of bounds after hitting the rim, and for that I will kick his rear end, decapitate him, and inherit his AP votes
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Jun 2, 2014 22:29
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Tae posted:Even at full health, Ibaka was rated as an average post defender. His strength is the ability to roam the court and block with his athleticism. This is the single dumbest circle jerkiest thing that this forum has harped on ever since we moved on from the years of Lovechat. Ibaka is absolutely an elite all-NBA level defender and is almost universally recognized year-in year-out as such by players, press, and coaches. He single-handedly makes the Thunder work defensively, he has been Top 3 in blocks for three or four years running, and yeah he may have struggled guarding the best PF in NBA history 1-on-1 with only half a working set of legs, but average post defender? Come on.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:30
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Also, Serge is okay one-on-one in the post but more important as a rover. There are a few ways to beat the Thunder, but the easiest is to play 4 perimeter players and a big who can shoot. Brooks will either stay big, in which case Shane Battier or Boris Diaw rains threes over Serge who's gonna try to protect the rim, or the Thunder match up and you can pnr them to death because Durant will over-help on every single drive and leave his man wide open, even if it's Danny Green or Mike Miller. It took the Heat (in 2012) and the Spurs a few games to figure out just how effective this lineup is, but once opposing coaches figure it out, they can ride it to wide open 3s every single possession and OKC has no answer save a Westbrook gamble to disrupt the pass off the drive or Durant's recovery speed.
Bush Did Outer Heaven fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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Jun 2, 2014 22:30
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Post defense is not the same as help defense because Ibaka is a fantastic help defender It is going to be okay guys
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Jun 2, 2014 22:31
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He's like 6'10" and 200 lbs or some poo poo which is why he's so extremely mobile (and he is an elite defender and should make the all-defense teams) but also can't defend real post players.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:31
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Terry Glenn posted:Also, Serge is okay one-on-one in the post but more important as a rover. There are a few ways to beat the Thunder, but the easiest is to play 4 perimeter players and a big who can shoot. Brooks will either stay big, in which case Shane Battier or Boris Diaw rains threes over Serge who's gonna try to protect the rim, or the Thunder match up and you can pnr them to death because Durant will over-help on every single drive and leave his man wide open, even if it's Danny Green or Mike Miller. It took the Heat (in 2012) and the Spurs a few games to figure out just how effective this lineup is, but once opposing coaches figure it out, they can ride it to wide open 3s every single possession and OKC has no answer save a Westbrook gamble to disrupt the pass off the drive or Durant's recovery speed. So OKC and a healthy Pels squad might be fun to watch.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:38
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Libertine posted:This is the single dumbest circle jerkiest thing that this forum has harped on ever since we moved on from the years of Lovechat. If this article is accurate, Ibaka allowed more points per posession defending the post last season than noted defensive stalwart Al Jefferson. I know it's not a end-all be-all conclusion, but still. anakha fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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Jun 2, 2014 22:40
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Declan MacManus posted:Post defense is not the same as help defense because Ibaka is a fantastic help defender Exactly. I never said Ibaka is a lovely defender or whatever, but he's average (not godawful) at defending a big 1-on-1 year in and out. That's perfectly fine in the current NBA when teams are going away from the PF/C posting up and are moving smaller and smaller to spark up offenses.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:42
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Declan MacManus posted:yo sports is good What's the word around Phins camp
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Jun 2, 2014 22:45
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Libertine posted:This is the single dumbest circle jerkiest thing that this forum has harped on ever since we moved on from the years of Lovechat. Relax. People think Ibaka is an average at best one on one post defender, which is true. That is not the same thing as thinking he's a bad defensive player overall. He's very good at a lot of other aspects of defense, many of which are more important than one on one post defense in the grand scheme of things.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:49
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Kibner posted:So OKC and a healthy Pels squad might be fun to watch. I'm interested to see if more teams start trying that lineup against OKC. The issue that the average NBA team will have with that sort of lineup is defending the rim again Durant and Westbrook. If you have a guy like Leonard to put on Durant or God forbid a duo like Wade and James to matchup against Russ and KD, the Thunder are probably going to get confused. The Pels could be problematic with their regular lineup because Anderson can bomb away and David can credibly protect the rim.
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Jun 2, 2014 22:53
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commy gun posted:What's the word around Phins camp Don't know don't care I stopped following the NFL offseason this year and it's awesome, I'll just catch up on everything in August and if anything sufficiently interesting happens it'll pop up on my Facebook Kibner posted:So OKC and a healthy Pels squad might be fun to watch. Two skinny ships passing in the night
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Jun 2, 2014 22:54
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morestuff posted:Oladipo, Tony Parker and Kemba Walker stand out as weird vote-getters. Danny Granger got a vote.
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Jun 2, 2014 23:03
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Finally:
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Jun 2, 2014 23:33
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Imagining Bismack Biyombo wearing nothing but t-shirts and jerseys for his entire life until this company came along
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Jun 2, 2014 23:40
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Bismack's arms are so long that his forearms hang from his elbows like tassels, it's really odd and gets odder the longer you stare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1STl1gSTR8
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Jun 2, 2014 23:52
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Declan MacManus posted:Imagining Bismack Biyombo wearing nothing but t-shirts and jerseys for his entire life until this company came along A wife beater doesn't care how long your arms are
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Jun 3, 2014 00:05
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WhyteRyce posted:A wife beater doesn't care how long your arms are Seems rude to assume what Jason Kidd thinks in my opinion.
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Jun 3, 2014 00:10
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CharlestheHammer posted:Seems rude to assume what Jason Kidd thinks in my opinion. That's exactly what I was thinking so I googled to see if Bismark was being traded to the Nets. This forum has infected me.
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Jun 3, 2014 00:17
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Declan MacManus posted:Imagining Bismack Biyombo wearing nothing but t-shirts and jerseys for his entire life until this company came along The tuxedo suit t-shirt is both stylish and comfortable.
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Jun 3, 2014 00:27
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PantsFreeZone posted:For those of us who are Dan Lebatard fans, here's the 2014 Pacers rant in video form: I didn't realize he does this so frequently. I remember his initial rant after The Decision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZr2qOXQJ4w
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Jun 3, 2014 00:52
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A Wilt picture I had never seen before:
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Jun 3, 2014 01:19
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