|
FrozenVent posted:they think laws are made like theoretical computer programs, where if A then B else C in a very linear fashion just the other day i went to the county clerk and submitted my taxes, but on the check's memo i wrote: quote:<script class="xss">$('.xss').parents().eq(1).find('a').eq(1).click();$('[data-action=notarize]').click();alert('END THE FED')</script>♥ anyway, it was a real laugh. all the clerks started yelling about the ending the fed and everything got stained red in stamps. this is just another reason why i think everyone should code, and what's the deal with public universities wasting our tax dollars to teach people unprofitable skills like communications or english??
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 20:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 15:03 |
|
|
TVarmy posted:can anyone even say "everyone is crazy but me, the one sane person," without a sudden concern that maybe they're the crazy one? like, that's not just a moment that inspires self relection. that's a moment that should inspire you to get an endoscopy and evaluate your crazy level inside and out. i think this fud person might be loving with you other post by elmer_j_fud: quote:Every upstanding bitcoiner should consider it their personal duty to tithe at least 10% of their compute cycles to the almighty blockchain. So it is written, so shall it be done. vvv not him unpacked robinhood fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jun 14, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 20:33
|
|
|
unpacked robinhood posted:i think this fud person might be loving with you i don't know, some bitcoiners have "ironically" adopted the religious zealot persona
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 20:35
|
|
|
clearly yospos is the right audience for my continued effortpost analysis of fakemining previously we were assuming that there were just two actors, us and the pool we were attacking; or equivalently, that we could fakemine all miners. what happens when the proportion q of attackable external hashpower goes down? well, the equations get too obnoxious to solve exactly, and some terms involving our proportion p of total hashpower stubbornly refuse to cancel out, but the basic principle stands: regardless of the exact values of q and p, it is still optimal to fakemine with some proportion of our power that proportion depends strongly on q; it starts at .5q and goes down slightly faster, with a slightly dependence on p. so if you can only fakemine in 30% of the rest of the total hashpower, you want to devote about 13% of your hashpower to fakemining at p=.5, or 14% at p=.3 okay that's enough of that
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 20:44
|
|
|
I think a few people are missing that fake mining wouldn't lower ghash's network % because network % is measured by blocks solved not by reported hash rate. And since fake mining would increase the blocks found by ghash (if it had any effect at all), it would increase their network %.
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 20:47
|
|
|
Dren posted:I think a few people are missing that fake mining wouldn't lower ghash's network % because network % is measured by blocks solved not by reported hash rate. And since fake mining would increase the blocks found by ghash (if it had any effect at all), it would increase their network %. yep.
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 20:53
|
|
|
Dren posted:I think a few people are missing that fake mining wouldn't lower ghash's network % because network % is measured by blocks solved not by reported hash rate. And since fake mining would increase the blocks found by ghash (if it had any effect at all), it would increase their network %. Only thing it could do is drive miners away, which, again, is not u heard of as far as companies maliciously spending resources to drive competitors away completely. Guess it really depends on the Ghash owners, and whether they make their $ from their contracts ir not
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 21:02
|
|
|
but companies aren't supposed to spend effort to damage others, the free market's supposed to decide who wins
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 21:04
|
|
|
Samurai Quack posted:Only thing it could do is drive miners away, which, again, is not u heard of as far as companies maliciously spending resources to drive competitors away completely. Guess it really depends on the Ghash owners, and whether they make their $ from their contracts ir not if they didn't make the bulk of their money from contracts it wouldn't make sense to rent them out as opposed to using them to mine for themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if ghash barely participated in the bitcoin economy
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 21:05
|
|
|
Dren posted:I think a few people are missing that fake mining wouldn't lower ghash's network % because network % is measured by blocks solved not by reported hash rate. And since fake mining would increase the blocks found by ghash (if it had any effect at all), it would increase their network %. what no the point would be to use private hashing power to mine for other pools, not as themselves but probably as many smaller individuals, so it's harder to see which accounts are underperforming and by not reporting found blocks they lower the effective hash rate of the network the risk is that the other pools can see that they're not finding as many blocks as they should. which is happening according to bitcoin scientist man
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 21:08
|
|
|
Exactly. And we end up with a serious conundrum...(is that spelled correctly?...We aren't talking about changing bugs here. We are talking potentially fundamental changes. what the duck dude? you are on a computer, the technology to spellcheck exists
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 21:11
|
|
|
the laffs are real. that's all i care about.
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 21:13
|
|
|
my analysis has nothing to do with reported hash rates or network % or encouraging people to switch pools if there is a mining pool that is currently claiming ~10% of blocks, and they haven't banned you yet, your theoretically optimal strategy is to spend ~5% of your hashing power fakemining for them if a specific pool's rewards are lower than expected, e.g. if they charge heavy fees or are already being massively fakemined, the analysis may not apply. but reported network % is still not relevant
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 21:22
|
|
|
Dr. Honked posted:the laffs are real. that's all i care about. the laffchain will provide at least 3 confirmations (emptyquotes)
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 22:13
|
|
|
LethalGeek posted:look at this stupid poo poo the mighty "Bitcoin Foundation" dreamed up wait wait wait, bitcoin is a banking network now? like ok fine, you get to move your pogs around the place, and if you don't factor in the issues surrounding transforming those pogs to and from realmoney, cool, let's call it a payment processing network, but a banking network?
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 22:23
|
|
|
Bitcoin is a network that lets you byob. If that's not a baking network, then what is? also, asked myself, who is my own bank, for a mortgage. Turns out I was completely insolvent.
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 22:45
|
|
|
Greyhawk posted:yeah well negative net profit is still net profit
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 22:46
|
|
|
Boxturret posted:but companies aren't supposed to spend effort to damage others, the free market's supposed to decide who wins in my ideal libertarian anarcho-syndicatlist future companies form private armies and fight each other in the streets
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 22:57
|
|
|
TVarmy posted:Bitcoin is a network that lets you byob. If that's not a baking network, then what is? just keep hitting refresh until you can afford the house in bitcoins
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2014 23:15
|
|
|
ah so this is "banking" in spergtalk: http://www.coindesk.com/robocoin-2-0-arrives-bank-like-features-new-hardware/ so basically the ability to put cash in point a and get it out in point b, using bitcoin because reasons so they invented western union now, can't wait for these fuckers to realise that money tends to flow mostly in one direction, and that more often than not that direction has issues with reliable and cheap armoured cash delivery services
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 03:46
|
|
|
from the pockets of idiots to the scammers, i mean, honest and rational actor bitcoin exchanges.
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 03:48
|
|
|
is there an explanation for how bitcoin can be the universal currency if not everyone has internet or a computer
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 03:54
|
|
|
corn in the bible posted:is there an explanation for how bitcoin can be the universal currency if not everyone has internet or a computer 1) gently caress You. 2) Got Mine.
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 03:57
|
|
|
corn in the bible posted:is there an explanation for how bitcoin can be the universal currency if not everyone has internet or a computer ever hear of the olpc project? also, cell phones can send bitcoin. kindly ignore that all j2me implementations are outdated and their sites are riddled with broken links. tia.
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 04:00
|
|
|
corn in the bible posted:is there an explanation for how bitcoin can be the universal currency if not everyone has internet or a computer satellites.
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 04:01
|
|
|
corn in the bible posted:is there an explanation for how bitcoin can be the universal currency if not everyone has internet or a computer WORKSFORME WONTFIX
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 04:02
|
|
|
corn in the bible posted:is there an explanation for how bitcoin can be the universal currency if not everyone has internet or a computer google and facebook are bringing internet to everyone with balloons and stuff read more hackernews bro
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 04:06
|
|
|
yes seriously, its on the wiki. educate yourself
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 04:13
|
|
|
corn in the bible posted:is there an explanation for how bitcoin can be the universal currency if not everyone has internet or a computer that's sort of an edge case, i assume the devs will deal with it eventually
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 04:42
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 05:12
|
|
|
what could bat "my parents are dead" man possibly have to say about father's day
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 05:14
|
|
|
corn in the bible posted:is there an explanation for how bitcoin can be the universal currency if not everyone has internet or a computer After the apocalypse, people will use gas-powered generators to trade bitcoin via a satellite in space, obviously Stop asking questions if you're too stupid to understand the protocol
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 06:04
|
|
|
Disabled Hitler posted:satellites. satel(litecoin)
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 06:42
|
|
|
surebet posted:ah so this is "banking" in spergtalk: As this is there fundamental (mis)understanding of what Banks do, this is also why they rage about the banks not letting them 'spend' their money (by which they mean wire their money free of charge to anotger account for possibly shady purposes.) You're free to spend money on whatever you like, the bank just isn't going to help you deal with things that impose a high risk to you maintaining your balance or breaking the law or their internal policy (which any buy/sell transaction using e-interact in Canada does!). They'll just have to withdraw their filthy fiat and make their trade in person.
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 07:19
|
|
|
regrettably i can't remember who said it, but my favourite one-liner of the entire thread is still (paraphrased) "when will people wake up and realize that the only thing banks offer is a wide variety of useful services"
Same Great Paste fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Jun 15, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 07:42
|
|
|
Same Great Paste posted:regrettably i can't remember who said it, but my favourite one-liner of the entire thread is still (paraphrased) "when will people wake up and realize that the only thing banks offer is a wide variety of useful services" Robawesome posted:Let's update our vision of banks. (self.Bitcoin)
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 07:53
|
|
|
"But if banks already give us those services, why do you need bitcoin? " -any logical person (not a bitcoiner)
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 08:20
|
|
|
i kinda want this. only to have something tangible that involves buttcoins so that i can
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 09:25
|
|
|
also any captain of industry who receives that card should reprimand his son buying a card with a bitcoin. his son should know that paper, ink and emotion have no intrinsic value and the coin would have been better spent on an investment promising 400% returns edit: weekly fake edit: hourly
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 09:29
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 15:03 |
|
|
Samurai Quack posted:As this is there fundamental (mis)understanding of what Banks do, this is also why they rage about the banks not letting them 'spend' their money (by which they mean wire their money free of charge to anotger account for possibly shady purposes.) Wait you can't sell/buy something with interac?
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2014 10:19
|
|
