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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:Man, this season's OP is so dull. It's a good thing episodes don't start with it, or it'd be difficult to get excited. I've kind of started liking it but its nowhere near as good as the first OP.
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Happy Valentine's Day, Slaine! So, odds that Substitute Princess unknowingly turned off whatever system Slaine was using to keep Asseylum asleep when she was pushing buttons?
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AfroSquirrel posted:Happy Valentine's Day, Slaine! I hope this is the case. I'd like Slaine a lot more if he decided he now cares more about his ambition than his princess. It'd make sense given his history, too.
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Feb 15, 2015 17:51
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:I hope this is the case. I'd like Slaine a lot more if he decided he now cares more about his ambition than his princess. It'd make sense given his history, too. Everything depends on his reaction to this. It'd also be great because it offers an opportunity for Eddelrittuo to go all  again.
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Feb 15, 2015 17:55
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:I hope this is the case. I'd like Slaine a lot more if he decided he now cares more about his ambition than his princess. It'd make sense given his history, too. Or he's keeping the princess under while he takes care of all the dirty work. But that seems less likely after the announcement of the formation of the Union of Slaine's Space Robots.
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Feb 15, 2015 18:12
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You know full well when she gets out it will just be 5 eps of
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Feb 15, 2015 18:59
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After wheelchair girl's "I don't mind if you use me while thinking about my princess sister"  speech, I knew this episode would be something special. Did not disappoint.
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Feb 15, 2015 20:42
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AnacondaHL posted:After wheelchair girl's "I don't mind if you use me while thinking about my princess sister" Indeed. I do envy Slaine's speaking skills though. The main problem is wait a minute isn't everyone 14-16 years old again? If they aged them up to at least late teens then the weird marriage thing would be more plausible than  Also, does no one in the show understand love at all? I fail to see how obsessing over a person meant you really, really liked them in the first place. Slaine is just grasping at anyone who doesn't completely hate him due to his Terran heritage atm. As for Inaho I feel like he is more insightful with that killer conversation there with Inko. We know you are now half-robot but at least you gained a of empathy along the way
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Feb 16, 2015 01:34
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Well there's another point on the list of reasons why Slaine is an absolute creeper 
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Feb 16, 2015 04:49
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It always surprised me a little that Slaine trusted Lemrina with access to Seylum, but it was nice seeing that Lemrina just wasn't cold enough to go through with it. I rather like Lemrina as a character, though how she'll end up remains to be seen. It's not certain, but the stinger points a bit towards Seylum's coma being induced. You could read it as Lemrina restarting parts of the life support system, which would remove whatever covert tampering had been done by Slaine or Saazbaum. e: This would also play into the "there are no miracles" theme, where her waking up isn't miraculous. Yes_Cantaloupe posted:Man, this season's OP is so dull. It's a good thing episodes don't start with it, or it'd be difficult to get excited. I actually like this season's OP, but it isn't as good as the first one.
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Feb 16, 2015 06:40
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Like, Slaine's sub-plot is now like a million times more interesting than what-his-name and his magical eye (which now also has telescopic powers, because yeah) now.
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Feb 16, 2015 08:33
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trucutru posted:Like, Slaine's sub-plot is now like a million times more interesting than what-his-name and his magical eye (which now also has telescopic powers, because yeah) now. It is ridiculous and beautiful that he could watch a fight between things a few dozen yards tall from 240,000 miles away closely enough to tell what was going on with just his magic eye. Really, that spoiler works for just about anything: "It is ridiculous that he could <anything you care to name that he's done here> with just his magic eye."
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Feb 16, 2015 09:28
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My headcanon is that they spliced Aldnoah technology into his robot eye.
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Feb 16, 2015 09:52
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I figured inaho just hijacked an observation satellite and pointed its cameras at the enemy base.
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Feb 16, 2015 11:32
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trucutru posted:Like, Slaine's sub-plot is now like a million times more interesting than what-his-name and his magical eye (which now also has telescopic powers, because yeah) now. Well, that's because there's actually a plot going on up in orbit. The Terran Cleanup Party is mostly just chumping super robots while Inaho only made a single move in the intrigues by freeing that one POW, and that was mostly just setup. There's intrigue and conflict between characters and it's all happening on Slaine's end. So, basically, you're absolutely right and I'm disappointed by that. Because I'm not actually all that interested in Vers politics and scheming compared to the macro-setting issue of the planetary war. Inaho doesn't even have as much visible strategic presence as, say, Amuro in Gundam because he hasn't developed a wide-ranging reputation among the Martians. Only Saazbaum and Slaine realized he was a threat (the threat) and one of them's dead. So there's little opportunity for Inaho to find himself embroiled in the plots in orbit and his incognito profile among the Vers forces means he's not targeted or reacted to in the way you'd think an Ace of his threat level would warrant. Especially considering the writers chose to designate him as the lone Terran pivotal or at least vital to every successful Knight kill we've seen, even when they didn't really need to. Hell, you don't even see Martians asking themselves what keeps happening to these nobles and why hasn't anybody heard from them anymore. Plotwise, it almost feels like the Invasion of Earth is an afterthought.
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Feb 16, 2015 12:07
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For the Vers dudes the invasion of Earth is an afterthought, in universe
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Sextro posted:I figured inaho just hijacked an observation satellite and pointed its cameras at the enemy base. Actually, I assumed he was just monologuing (it's what MCs do best) and it was a whacky coincidence that Slaine happened to be in the midst of the duel. I mean who knows what space time it is anyways vs Earth time too.
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Feb 16, 2015 17:27
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Alder posted:Actually, I assumed he was just monologuing (it's what MCs do best) and it was a whacky coincidence that Slaine happened to be in the midst of the duel. I mean who knows what space time it is anyways vs Earth time too. The 'It's stopped now' right when the duel ended put paid to that idea, though.
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Feb 16, 2015 18:04
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Alder posted:Actually, I assumed he was just monologuing (it's what MCs do best) and it was a whacky coincidence that Slaine happened to be in the midst of the duel. I mean who knows what space time it is anyways vs Earth time too. Infidel! you're doubting the powers of the eye!
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I also assume he just hijacked a comm relay or something.trucutru posted:Infidel! you're doubting the powers of the eye! I! Tanaka Gundham! Will be your opponent!
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Feb 16, 2015 18:18
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ninjewtsu posted:For the Vers dudes the invasion of Earth is an afterthought, in universe Tell me about it. 
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Feb 17, 2015 04:25
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This show gets more Battletech every episode. Superior factions with advanced tech decides to assault a more numerous and unified force for resources. Que inter-faction fighting and adaption of advanced technologies.
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Feb 17, 2015 05:10
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And like Battletech it's space royal soap operas all the way down.
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Feb 17, 2015 05:34
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It's been a fair while since physics but here goes so from my dodgy memory and a bit of googling, but assuming the debris is in a similar orbit as the moon, a resolution of about 1m (putting the guestimated 10m mechs as a small pixel-blob), and a hubble-like setup, his eye would need the equivalent of of 430m diameter mirror to get that level of magnification. Could be way off though.
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Feb 17, 2015 06:00
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I still argue that this show would be better without inaho. Or with less of his influence on everything. The ties to the princess the earth forces have, the solving problems, everything, could have all been written as a group concerted effort. It would make the varied and interesting earth cast MUCH more interesting if they could accomplish ANYTHING without inaho. At this point i kind of feel that all anyone on vers has to do is kill Inaho, and earth will surrender without his competance to further everything they do. People complain about Slaine being a fuckup, but earth's forces cant even seem to tie their shoes without Inaho coming up with a better way to do it for them. It really undermines any accomplishment they DO make.
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Feb 17, 2015 06:44
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Talkc posted:At this point i kind of feel that all anyone on vers has to do is kill Inaho, and earth will surrender without his competance to further everything they do.
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Feb 17, 2015 06:45
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Also i really like how twisted Slaine is, being a product of the society he is in. Dude has been spit on, slapped, imprisoned, had his life threatened, and been tortured within an INCH of his life. All on a regular basis. Does Slaine know what love is? Not as we know it no. He only understands that Hime-sama didn't outright hate him, and therefore she is the only light he has. He had no friends. No allies. Nothing. He had Asseylum. Imagine most of your formative years as a person spent like that. End product = Twisted. And that is PERFECT for his character, and the circumstances he is written into.
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Feb 17, 2015 06:53
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Talkc posted:I still argue that this show would be better without inaho. Or with less of his influence on everything. The ties to the princess the earth forces have, the solving problems, everything, could have all been written as a group concerted effort. It would make the varied and interesting earth cast MUCH more interesting if they could accomplish ANYTHING without inaho. There was the 19 month period where Earth actually made gains against the invasion while Inaho was in a coma/eye implantation surgery/not in active duty. There was also the last battle where Inaho had effectively nothing to do with the enemy's actual defeat besides telling someone to use tracer rounds, since his target spotting was cut off. Yuki won the victory by keeping the target still. Nobody on the Deucalion besides Inaho has any reason to even suspect that the Princess isn't real and nobody else knows that Slaine even exists, so without Inaho there's no link between the two factions at all.
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Kanos posted:There was the 19 month period where Earth actually made gains against the invasion while Inaho was in a coma/eye implantation surgery/not in active duty. There was also the last battle where Inaho had effectively nothing to do with the enemy's actual defeat besides telling someone to use tracer rounds, since his target spotting was cut off. Yuki won the victory by keeping the target still. I know that. As i said it could have all been written better if some of the elements of the story were spread around to other characters. Inaho is irrevocably the center of the story. I wish that hadn't been the case. It feels like en ensemble cast like this is wasted when everything they do ( as actually shown on screen ) is trumped by one character solving the lion's share of the problems. And inaho WAS the entire plan last episode. Sure others fired the tracer rounds and kept the robot distracted, but it was his call on the tracers. Hell when someone DID act outside of his control ( his sister ) he loving chides her for it. Hell, they never said who's plan the whole thing was but id bet money that it was Inaho's. When it comes to people actually doing things on screen, even when taking on the tornado bot, when they call for help, its god drat inaho who answers. While its implied that they solve problems and make grounds, its not portrayed that way on screen.
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Kanos posted:There was the 19 month period where Earth actually made gains against the invasion while Inaho was in a coma/eye implantation surgery/not in active duty. There was also the last battle where Inaho had effectively nothing to do with the enemy's actual defeat besides telling someone to use tracer rounds, since his target spotting was cut off. Yuki won the victory by keeping the target still. He was spotting for the Deucalion and relaying corrections through the drones. The tracer rounds were just a backup, probably one that wouldn't have worked if the guy hadn't started monologuing. Granted, he shouldn't have been necessary for that, the drones should have been more than enough on their own. It would have been nice to show a quick montage, if nothing else, of Earth holding its own against second-rate counts and their underlings, though.
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Shanakin posted:It's been a fair while since physics but here goes so from my dodgy memory and a bit of googling, but assuming the debris is in a similar orbit as the moon, a resolution of about 1m (putting the guestimated 10m mechs as a small pixel-blob), and a hubble-like setup, his eye would need the equivalent of of 430m diameter mirror to get that level of magnification. Could be way off though.
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Maybe but they'd have to be really, bright to outshine the sunlight reflections from the debris field.
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Feb 17, 2015 09:52
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Also it wouldn't be any less stupid.
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Feb 17, 2015 09:55
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Shanakin posted:Maybe but they'd have to be really, bright to outshine the sunlight reflections from the debris field. I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. You can see a shoe boxed sized object as far out as Jupiter so long as it had the heat signature of a candle. So as long as it was just heat signatures he was looking at and knew which direction to look its certainly plausible.
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Yeah but that's not against a bright background, like the moon chunks reflecting sunlight. I could be wrong though, I'm not exactly an expert on this.
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Feb 17, 2015 14:37
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Raenir Salazar posted:I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. You can see a shoe boxed sized object as far out as Jupiter so long as it had the heat signature of a candle. So as long as it was just heat signatures he was looking at and knew which direction to look its certainly plausible. He might have been able to see a point light source, but with a 2cm max detector he wouldn't be able to discern details smaller than several kilometers, regardless of how much resolution he has, because of the way optics works. Hubble can't resolve the Apollo landing sites from orbit, with gigantic mirrors.
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Feb 17, 2015 14:59
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Given all the poo poo in orbit he was probably seeing all those beams hitting rocks or lighting up the dust, plus all the explosions and poo poo.
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Paracelsus posted:Does it change at all if what he's looking for are the flashes of light that the fight generates, rather than the physical forms of the mechs? He could probably knew who was fighting by looking at their faces. with his x-ray vision trucutru fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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Feb 17, 2015 16:57
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He has a cyborg eye people, they've apparently figured out how to merge electronics and software with flesh including his mind being able to cope with the calculation engine. A superscope is the least unbelievable poo poo in this show.
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Thor-Stryker posted:He has a cyborg eye people, they've apparently figured out how to merge electronics and software with flesh including his mind being able to cope with the calculation engine. Well, sort of. They've made it clear that there's a non-zero chance it'll eat his brain. Slaine might manage to kill another main character yet.
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