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rejutka posted:Also, I refuse to live in a world where Karsa is not played by Conan Stevens and voiced by Ric Flair. Hahahaha, Ric Flair?!?!?!?!?
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Apr 5, 2015 02:19
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Young Karsa is Ric Flair as gently caress. 
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Apr 5, 2015 02:25
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rejutka posted:Also, I refuse to live in a world where Karsa is not played by Conan Stevens and voiced by Ric Flair. I'd actually say that Michael Page's best voice and the only one I really genuinely like is his voice for Karsa. It just fits, for some reason.
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Apr 5, 2015 06:08
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I swear Esslemont handed his books off to a ghostwriter after RotCG, because good lord do they get really really really lovely to an almost unbelievable extent. It's disappointing that he got to
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Apr 6, 2015 04:11
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Rime posted:I swear Esslemont handed his books off to a ghostwriter after RotCG, because good lord do they get really really really lovely to an almost unbelievable extent. But Night of Knives was good...?
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Apr 6, 2015 12:40
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Spermy Smurf posted:But Night of Knives was good...? Maybe for generic fantasy, but not Malazan Book of the Fallen good.
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Apr 6, 2015 13:43
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dishwasherlove posted:Maybe for generic fantasy, but not Malazan Book of the Fallen good. I thought it was terrible for all sorts of fantasy, and shouldn't have been published for Malazan at all. I was just wondering why they said "after Return of Crimson Guard" it turned to poo poo when NoK was before it and worse than anything I've read in the last ten years. And RoTCG wasn't even a good book, there were good scenes though.
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Apr 6, 2015 14:22
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I've said it before, you guys are way too hard on Esslemont.
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Apr 6, 2015 19:24
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Baudin posted:I've said it before, you guys are way too hard on Esslemont. Although he improves book to book, he can't quite seem to stop constructing clunky sentences and overly elaborate mysterious POVs for no particular reason. Also Kyle. Always and forever Kyle. loving Kyle.
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Apr 6, 2015 20:49
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Baudin posted:I've said it before, you guys are way too hard on Esslemont. Stonewielder & Orb, Scepter, Throne were trash. There is no other word to describe the treatment given to what should have been truly amazing fleshing out of secondary lore. Especially OST, gently caress that book.
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Apr 6, 2015 21:12
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Rime posted:Stonewielder & Orb, Scepter, Throne were trash. There is no other word to describe the treatment given to what should have been truly amazing fleshing out of secondary lore. Especially OST, gently caress that book. I rather enjoyed those two v0v Clearly my literary tastebuds have been degraded over time from reading too much lovely 80's and 90's fantasy novels, of the teen kind, when I was younger. The equivalent of drinking bleach for my mind, I suppose. What were those terrible books called again? They had a ton of weird furry/bi-sexual/trans content in it which was only passing weird at the time for me.
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Apr 6, 2015 21:18
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rejutka posted:Although he improves book to book, he can't quite seem to stop constructing clunky sentences and overly elaborate mysterious POVs for no particular reason. I think you mean Kylaalindlasidoseurowienas. Rime posted:Stonewielder & Orb, Scepter, Throne were trash. There is no other word to describe the treatment given to what should have been truly amazing fleshing out of secondary lore. Especially OST, gently caress that book. I give ICE nearly as much poo poo as anyone else here who gives him a lot of poo poo, and I have to say I enjoyed both of those books and think they're his best. Yes, the material could have been given a better treatment, but Erikson isn't going to have an opportunity to flesh out ALL of the stories being told in the world, so I'm not going to hold that against him. The Kiska stuff was terrrrrrrible, however. In fact, thinking on it, Kiska just seems to take all the life out of whatever she's featured in. NoK, the Leoman scenes in OST that would have otherwise been perfectly enjoyable, Tayschrenn, etc...
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Apr 6, 2015 23:05
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Ross posted:Does Crokus ever become interesting? I can't tell why or if I'm supposed to care about him. [halfway through Deadhouse Gates] Finally got around to reading these and now I'm at about the same place as you and I was just about to ask this very question. He's an annoying little poo poo, isn't he? At least the rest of the current gang is interesting.
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Apr 7, 2015 12:12
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He gets more interesting but never (IMO) stops being an annoying little poo poo. edit: VVV Hell no. Felisin is a good character. I like Felisin. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Apr 7, 2015 12:15
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Crokus is the Felisin of dudes.
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Apr 7, 2015 12:20
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rejutka posted:Crokus is the Felisin of dudes. Eh, his storyline at least has some redemption and badassery.
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Apr 7, 2015 20:07
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Will I really have to read the Esselmont books to get more focus on the Crimson Guard? I really liked Iron Bars &co. in Midnight Tides.
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Apr 8, 2015 06:04
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zeal posted:Will I really have to read the Esselmont books to get more focus on the Crimson Guard? I really liked Iron Bars &co. in Midnight Tides. Yes. In many ways you'll wish you hadn't though. Maybe it was the removal of mystique or maybe it was the writing quality.
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Apr 8, 2015 06:16
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zeal posted:Will I really have to read the Esselmont books to get more focus on the Crimson Guard? I really liked Iron Bars &co. in Midnight Tides. Yes. They don't appear in the main series at all after...Midnight Tides, in fact, I want to say. However, if you like Iron Bars, ICEs treatment (really of all of the CG) is not terribly satisfying. 
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Apr 8, 2015 06:16
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Do yourself a favor and don't read Assail.
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Apr 8, 2015 07:23
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Now I know why they call you 'Iron Bars' lol xoxoxo 
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Apr 8, 2015 12:37
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Yeah, I think I'll just leave the mystique intact and not read Esselmont at all.
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Apr 8, 2015 14:13
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That sucks, I've been waiting to hear more about Iron Bars and the Crimson Guard in general (I'm on the last chapter of the Bonehunters [HOLY SHIIIIIT!!!]) and it's disappointing to know that they were left to an inferior writer.
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Apr 9, 2015 01:19
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This Crimson Guard talk reminded me of one of the few parts in Assail that I liked: the moment where the big secret about the Guard gets revealed. Esslemont completely telegraphs it with his clumsy hints, but I still thought this was a good line: 'We offer our greetings to the D'Avore T'lan Imass. The Red Clan.'
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Apr 9, 2015 06:23
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I just started this series and oh my god is it a roller coaster ride. Everything from deeply tragic but satisfying character deaths to making you do a 180 on characters as they genuinely change and grow. Jesus, I just read the first few books of The Storm Light Archive and then decided to jump into Malazan, Book of the Fallen series while I waited for the next Stormlight Book. Its been a long time since I have been swept up into a series like this. Just started Tides of Midnight. Already trying to piece together what is going on there. I have come to love all the little easter eggs Erikson has scattered through the whole series. I have spent a lot of time going "OOOOOOOH!" when something clicks in my head. Never read anything this complex nor this intense! Sorry if this is a bit breathless.
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Apr 9, 2015 08:17
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Juaguocio posted:This Crimson Guard talk reminded me of one of the few parts in Assail that I liked: the moment where the big secret about the Guard gets revealed. Esslemont completely telegraphs it with his clumsy hints, but I still thought this was a good line: You know, I've read it, but I was so dissatisfied with the book and generally slogging to finish it more out of impetus than desire, that I don't even remember what the secret IS.
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Apr 9, 2015 09:14
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Shockeh posted:You know, I've read it, but I was so dissatisfied with the book and generally slogging to finish it more out of impetus than desire, that I don't even remember what the secret IS. If you cant figure it out from that quote I am unsure what to say.
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Apr 9, 2015 11:50
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Spermy Smurf posted:If you cant figure it out from that quote I am unsure what to say. I guessed it was that, but genuinely don't remember anything of it happening.
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Apr 9, 2015 12:22
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It was so slow, pathetic, and telegraphed that it was easy to forget it was supposed to be a big reveal.
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Apr 9, 2015 13:10
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I have not read Assail, but I recall something about that being mentioned in one of the books. Maybe it was a T'lan Imass talking to a Crimson Guardsman and making the comparison?
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Aranan posted:I have not read Assail, but I recall something about that being mentioned in one of the books. Maybe it was a T'lan Imass talking to a Crimson Guardsman and making the comparison? Yeah, I forget the specific but there was an allusion along those lines made by a T'lan some of them encountered. Bellicose Buddha posted:I just started this series and oh my god is it a roller coaster ride. Everything from deeply tragic but satisfying character deaths to making you do a 180 on characters as they genuinely change and grow. Jesus, I just read the first few books of The Storm Light Archive and then decided to jump into Malazan, Book of the Fallen series while I waited for the next Stormlight Book. Its been a long time since I have been swept up into a series like this. Just started Tides of Midnight. Already trying to piece together what is going on there. I have come to love all the little easter eggs Erikson has scattered through the whole series. I have spent a lot of time going "OOOOOOOH!" when something clicks in my head. Never read anything this complex nor this intense! Sorry if this is a bit breathless.  Just wait till a reread, when you realize they're not so much easter eggs as a ton of history, mythology, and general background that doesn't all jump out at you until your third time on a given book. When you finish Midnight Tides, come back, read this spoiler, and let us know if you catch that the Edur Bugg kills at the end is the one QB and co. stumble across, it having washed up from the ocean, in MoI. Habibi fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Apr 9, 2015 17:35
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Habibi posted:When you finish Midnight Tides, come back, read this spoiler, and let us know if you catch that the Edur Bugg kills at the end is the one QB and co. stumble across, it having washed up from the ocean, in MoI.
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Habibi posted:When you finish Midnight Tides, come back, read this spoiler, and let us know if you catch that the Edur Bugg kills at the end is the one QB and co. stumble across, it having washed up from the ocean, in MoI. I was really really proud that I figured it out the first time I read it - I didn't need to do a reread to link the two together.
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Apr 9, 2015 18:17
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Baudin posted:I was really really proud that I figured it out the first time I read it - I didn't need to do a reread to link the two together. Yeah, that was probably one of the more obvious references and definitely clicked when it happened in MT.
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I'm wondering: Did anyone consider how the "plot" and setting of Bloodborne are exactly (imho) what Night of Knives should have been if it had been done to its full potential? Not to say the book in its current form is total crap. I actually think not even Erikson could have done it that well. But Bloodborne feels to me like "Malazan done right". Now think Bloodborne done in the scale of Malazan  (for reading straight about Bloodborne, if you have no idea what the plot is about : http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/04/09/whats-really-going-on-in-bloodborne )
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Apr 10, 2015 01:25
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Nearing the end of DG for the second time. Just finished the end of the chain of dogs. Goddamn, so many tears were shed. It hit so much harder the second time around. Corporal List, Bult, Coltaine.  Also nice to see Blistig before he became a huge dick. It's so easy to forget where all the characters like Keneb come from.I also can't help but really want someone to make a movie of The Chain of Dogs and follow that entire arc. It would be so loving awesome as a standalone movie.
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Yarrbossa posted:Nearing the end of DG for the second time. I've got to agree, when I was reading DG for the first time and experienced the whole Chain of Dogs event-chai n with its incredible bleakness, mind-blowing perseverance and the tragedy of Coltaine and Co. I couldn't help but think of it in terms of some amazing theatrical epic. Frankly I'm shocked that it hasn't been made into a movie, it's so ripe for it.
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Apr 10, 2015 03:16
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Also, I just finished The Bonehunters; possibly my favorite book so far, along with Midnight Tides and Memories of Ice. Onward to Reapers Gale!
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Yarrbossa posted:Nearing the end of DG for the second time. I have been listening to the audio books while at work and was driving home while listening when I got to the part where Coltaine dies and the High Fist and the god drat nobles he saved start making GBS threads all over his memory and sacrifice. Never been quite as satisfied to have a fucker die as when Duiker kicks that fat son of bitch so hard in his double chins that it breaks his neck. Anyway, I was so caught up in it and angry at what was happening that I unconsciously started speeding. Was going waaay to fast and managed to realize it before a cop noticed. Bellicose Buddha fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Apr 10, 2015 |
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