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Hi, I've been planning to go into nursing for an extended period of time, but variety of reasons have kept me out of it. However, spring of next year I am going to start my first bit of college, so I'm down to the important decision - Should I go for an associates degree, or a bachelors? I understand that the pay is similar but that the bachelors opens a lot more doors, but I have also been lead to believe that it's actually faster sometimes to do the RN to BSN programs that so many places offer to get your bachelors, than going straight for it? I'm mostly confident about my ability to survive the schooling either way, so that's not the problem - but 2 years of even making half of the average 55ish thousand a year would be a lot nicer than having to work two years part time in retail or something like that, especially if it's going to be 'faster' on top of it. On the other hand, I've seen a lot of stuff talking about how most fresh ADNs have trouble even finding work, and I've had enough of that song and dance as is with the job market. More information: Southern Californian, in the LA Area. Looking to eventually move to the east coast however, specifically NYC or DC. However, instate tuition etc. etc. I can afford the costs of the first 2 years via a community college without going into debt, but further time at a university will likely require loans or a lot of luck with scholarships. I didn't have great grades in highschool, with only a 2.9 GPA, but the school I have enrolled in is open enrollment and I have been accepted [I was going to begin this fall semester that just started, but held off for personal reasons]. These are all incredibly vague things to ask, but I just want to know what the 'right' path might be for me. If it helps, I do have an eventual goal of becoming a Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner, but that is a very long term goal, that I've been lead to believe will be at least 8ish years away from attaining. KittyEmpress fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Sep 18, 2015 |
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Sep 18, 2015 19:20
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MurderBot posted:Martha Rogers or whatever nurse theorist who decided that everything has an "energy" must have been on a lot of acid. Seriously. I have to do a group presentation on her later in the semester and I'm just like  Anyways... 3 Weeks in and I'm still loving this and totally pumped. Though I am more than a little overwhelmed and have had a least one day I spent just completely sure I'd made a horrible mistake. From what I understand though, that's normal.
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I was directed to this thread and am at work now, but just so I can get some opinions, I'm gonna copy & paste my post: So, I'm 28 years old and have been working in the service industry since I was 20. Was supposed to be a temporary thing after I dropped out of college and just kept going after I became a bartender about 5 years ago. Made more money than I was used to and had a lot of fun. But, I'm ready to go back to school and get something more financially stable with a lot more money, and just....I'm ready to grow up. Time to go back to school. Admittedly, I'm not totally sure what to go back for. But, lately I've really been hardcore leaning on becoming a nurse. I figure: - There is ALWAYS jobs - Jobs EVERYWHERE - Great pay. Looks around $50,000+ minimum in Arkansas - Feel like I'm doing something right in the world I can be proud of. I always held out of college cause I didn't know my dream job....but this sure would be hell of a backup plan to fall back on. Becoming a LPN or more. I'm not sure what I want to do in this world specifically. But, as far as a job goes, I want to feel like I'm making a difference and genuinely helping others. Tell me if this is a good or bad idea. Also, considering physical therapy. Only thing with that as it seems 30% of people who go to the university I'd be going to (University of Central Arkansas) go there for that and I'm worried there may be a lot of overflow as far as job availability goes. 89 fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Sep 18, 2015 |
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Sep 18, 2015 20:56
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Get your CNA?
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DannyTanner posted:Get your CNA? I agree. A lot of your paragraph has to do with finances/job stability which scares me. I would definitely get your feet wet before jumping in.
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Sep 18, 2015 22:34
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There a physical therapy thread around here as well?
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KittyEmpress posted:Hi, I've been planning to go into nursing for an extended period of time, but variety of reasons have kept me out of it. However, spring of next year I am going to start my first bit of college, so I'm down to the important decision - Southern Cali, NYC, and DC are all supposed to be very competitive markets for nurses. I don't have first hand experience in any of those areas, but it sounds like you'd want your BSN and the ability to network like a champ if you want a job in any of those cities. 89 posted:I was directed to this thread and am at work now, but just so I can get some opinions, I'm gonna copy & paste my post: If you becoming a nurse for any other reason than "I really want to be a nurse," you will be absolutely miserable and burnout within a year. There are better paying jobs out there where you don't have to swim through a giant literal and figurative pool of poo poo every day. If you're serious about nursing, do what everyone else is saying and be a CNA for first. Not only will it help you get a job if you decide to become a nurse, but it'll let you know pretty quickly if being a nurse is the right job for you. Seriously, what other job is it considered "normal" to see your co-workers crying in a supply closet on an almost daily basis? Definitely know what you're getting into before you invest all that time, money, and energy into going to school.
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Sep 19, 2015 00:55
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Haha do it for the money you'll love it hahahajahjhjhjhjhjhj
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Lol jk you'll burn out like the rest of them.
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Sep 19, 2015 02:19
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If you've ever seen Requiem for a Dream and remember the very last shot in the movie where Jennifer Connelly is lying on a couch clutching a bag of heroin and sobbing quietly about the demeaning things she had to do to get it, that's how I imagine someone who goes into nursing for the money must end up. Swap out the heroin for that sweet nursing paycheck (or possibly just leave it as heroin).
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Bad idea. Lots of jobs? Yeah, there are lots of crap nursing jobs everywhere. Great pay?? Mediocre pay unless you are willing to relocate - and then are you probably living somewhere with a high cost of living. Proud of? That is noble - but you can be proud of any basketweaving and cat grooming if your heart is in it. It sounds like you need to shadow. A lot. Spend a day with a nurse until you have poo poo up to your nose and then ask yourself if you want to do that of your own volition. Because that will be your job. Or a physical therapist, an engineer, NP, PA, or doctor, software programmer, etc etc..... As others has indicated, if you go into nursing because it's a job it will soon be a job you hate and have to keep to pay off your new loans. You don't want to ask yourself in another 5 years, what do I REALLY want to do. ThirstyBuck fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Sep 19, 2015 03:11
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And we've all had coworkers who came for the cash and nobody wants another.
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Sep 19, 2015 11:10
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I became a nurse because I wanted to be a CRNA. No regrets.
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I became a nurse because I wanted four day weekends, but now that I have matured as a nurse, sharpened my skills, and learned to trust my instincts, I'm aiming for five day weekends.
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Friday, scheduled 8 hr day shift. My alarm goes off at 0540. At 0543 pager goes off "You are early start today..." and my room assignment and partner. This page is informing me that I'm now expected to be "at work" at 0630, as opposed to 0705. I make "to work" 0638, and my day proceeds. It is normal for a 0630 start to forego an afternoon break and be relieved at 1430. At 1422, our interim manager stops by to let us know that our relief is delayed, likely by 1 to 2 hours. I call to coordinate with family, and then call my partner's family to coordinate child retrieval. We are both relieved within 5 minutes of each other, 2 hours later. This is a daily occurrence. 9 people were on mandatory overtime yesterday. OT/OA Incentive posted:The incentive for OA will be 2.167 times the individual employee’s hourly rate, or will be paid at 1.567 times the individual employee’s hourly rate with .5 hours of PTO for every OA hour worked. The incentive for OT will be 2.5 times the individual employee’s hourly rate, or will be paid at 2.0 times the individual employee’s hourly rate with .5 hours of PTO for every OT hour worked. Even when you can do it for the money ($85/hr), it's not worth doing it for the money. Battered Cankles fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Sep 19, 2015 15:41
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Epic Doctor Fetus posted:I became a nurse because I wanted four day weekends
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KittyEmpress posted:Hi, I've been planning to go into nursing for an extended period of time, but variety of reasons have kept me out of it. However, spring of next year I am going to start my first bit of college, so I'm down to the important decision - First off your college transcript will be your first hurdle into getting in. If you are serious about nursing you're going to have to boost your GPA significantly specifically in courses like Anatomy & Physiology 1 & 2, general chem, English 1, and psych. Look for nursing programs where the school has an academic amnesty policy. For example you might be able to find a school where they will only look at credits you take at the school and none of your previous courses. Second in big cities like NYC, LA, etc. it's going to be extremely hard to get a job even as a BSN graduate. In big cities the job market is really tough for people with no experience. I would advise against private schools because the programs are too expensive and in my opinion not worth the debt. If you go do an ADN program be ready to start a RN-BSN bridge program immediately after. And be prepared to relocate because it's hard for ADN's to get jobs. Also don't limit yourself to nursing. There are a lot of cool jobs in the medical field. There's physician assistant, respiratory therapist, x-ray tech, etc, etc. Good luck and keep your options wide open.
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I have no clue why I became a nurse aside from it seemed like a good idea at the time, was the next step after 911/EMS, and it's worked out really really, really well in my favor. Although like everyone else has said, there is no way in hell that I would go into this profession going "the money is decent and there are jobs everywhere." It's mainly because of my enjoyment of trauma/E.R nursing and now, flight nursing that I have stayed in this position especially when I have friends/brothers pulling in 90-100k/year working 8-5 and generally having a pretty simplistic lifestyle *loving around in engineering stuff, computers/networking.*
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I'm thinking of pursuing flight instead of crna. You do fixed wing?
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Yep, just fixed, but I work pretty close with the big conglomerate rotor/fixed wing company down here *Air Methods*.
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LordAnkh posted:First off your college transcript will be your first hurdle into getting in. If you are serious about nursing you're going to have to boost your GPA significantly specifically in courses like Anatomy & Physiology 1 & 2, general chem, English 1, and psych. Look for nursing programs where the school has an academic amnesty policy. For example you might be able to find a school where they will only look at credits you take at the school and none of your previous courses. I'm not planning to go to a private college - both schools I'm looking at right now for Community -> Univ are californian state schools and are pretty affordable (the community college comes out to like, 1300 tuition a semester it's so cheap, thus why I'm staying in calfiornia). Big cities being hard makes sense, and I understand it's a difficult thing. I've considered stuff like getting my BSN and then using one of those military programs to get to a masters or higher as well, since those programs are pretty useful seeming. Getting experience does seem like it;'d be pretty hard - I have no idea where you'd start with that, and it's been the main thing I've worried about since deciding that's what I wanted to do. I don't aim to be a nurse because I want to get rich or anything, I'm aiming for eventual Nurse Practitioner Psychiatric because I want to work with people with mental illnesses and I'm aiming for nursing because I very much am the type of person who legitimately enjoys helping people (I have somewhere around 400 volunteer hours done in the past two years, on top of actually working a full time job.) I do fully intend to get my BSN as soon as possible, I just also would like 'asap' to also include 'with minimal debt' because I know multiple people who are 60-70 grand in debt and that seems terrible. It feels like if I went ADN I could hopefully at least do some internship stuff while in the RN->BSN program, and come out of it with experience to put on my resume, instead of coming out with a BSN but no experience? Is that correct?
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Depending on your area, you may be able to get a job with an ADN and then get employer assistance in getting your BSN. The hospital I work at has no distinction between ADN and BSN, unless you want a supervisor position. There isn't even a pay difference. Of course, it's a tiny hospital in rural TN.
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In my area the hospitals pay CNAs to get their ADNs and then pay those RNs to get their BSNs. You have to work under contract and can't move very far for a couple years but it's just job security combined with less debt imo.
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Yup. Paid for my ADN out of pocket and worked down in Lynchburg for a year in a neuro ICU making piddly pay. Moving back up to DC and just landed a job in another neuro ICU and they are going to completely pay for my BSN assuming I space out my program over a year and a half. Next step is to acquire more experience and get myself situated to hopefully get accepted into CRNA school a few years down the line when I have some more money banked. I love my job. I love being in the ICU. I wouldn't trade it for anything. P.s. I have a whole new level of respect for psych nurses after last night. Seriously screw psych patients who are under TDO and don't want treatment.
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I got my ADN and had a job less than a month after passing boards. I signed an agreement to have my BSN within 5 years, but should have it in 3 semesters. My employer offers tuition reimbursement starting from date of hire, and after 12 months they will pay for classes up front rather than paying me back after the fact.
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Annath posted:I got my ADN and had a job less than a month after passing boards. I signed an agreement to have my BSN within 5 years, but should have it in 3 semesters. My employer offers tuition reimbursement starting from date of hire, and after 12 months they will pay for classes up front rather than paying me back after the fact. But since you are swimming in nursing pay you can afford to pay everything up front!
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LoveMeDead posted:Depending on your area, you may be able to get a job with an ADN and then get employer assistance in getting your BSN. The hospital I work at has no distinction between ADN and BSN, unless you want a supervisor position. There isn't even a pay difference. Of course, it's a tiny hospital in rural TN. Rural TN there ya go. If you get an ADN you can definitely find jobs but in rural places even in big states like New York. But in the large metropolitan cities the competition is STIFF for new grad nurses. Once you get your one year experience + the BSN I think you'll be good to go
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I'm a STNA in Ohio, and I loving love what I do. I know that that I have it easy as gently caress, because I work in Assisted and Independent living. My only taste of skilled care was the two days of clinicals during my certification course. I wish I could just be an aide forever, because I'm good at it, and it's something I really enjoy. I just can't sustain myself financially on aide wages. I'm currently finishing up the pre-requisites for the LPN program at a local community college. Everyone of course is telling me that it's a waste, and I should just go for RN. Honestly though, I'd make enough to be happy as an LPN, and I'd rather stick with elder and memory care. I love my residents, even the ones who are a pain in the rear end.
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It really comes down to whatever it is you want to do, I will admit that being an RN has a large amount of advantages over an LPN, especially in an assisted/independent living situation. In terms of wasting time, technically yes and no, you have lots of LPN to RN positions in case you wish to choose that career path, but logically if you think that there's even an inkling of wanting to receive your RN it's best to just delve right into it. And to be fair, RN's in assisted/independent living usually go there to die or because they got in trouble/fired from their last position, and with the huge need for RN's in such setting, you could make a good wage and have a very very positive impact on a facility. I can't honestly say that I've ever picked up a patient from a nursing facility or assisted living center where the nurse didn't give a single poo poo that their patient was in 3rd degree heart block and symptomatic or that they were coding(semi-independent living, explains the lack of DNR), and more worried about whether or not they were gonna get their evening meds passed to get home on time. I would say get your RN and keep your focus on nursing homes. You will have more responsibility, sure, but at the same time you will have a greater impact on the facility and do more good than being a nurse aide or LPN. Nice and hot piss fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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Sep 20, 2015 22:58
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How long does it usually take hospital HR to get back to you on job apps? I'm thinking I should wait 3 months before I don't get any callbacks and look elsewhere for employment.
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LordAnkh posted:How long does it usually take hospital HR to get back to you on job apps? I'm thinking I should wait 3 months before I don't get any callbacks and look elsewhere for employment. Three months? Try calling back in a week.
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LordAnkh posted:How long does it usually take hospital HR to get back to you on job apps? I'm thinking I should wait 3 months before I don't get any callbacks and look elsewhere for employment. Three months is waaaay too long. The entire posting period, call-back, interview, and hire process usually takes about a month at most. Most places start making calls for interviews within a week or two of the original posting date. Definitely be calling HR a week after you reply if you don't hear anything. You should be actively pursuing them, don't wait for them to call you. This is your first RN job, right? You should be applying everywhere and anywhere for a job. Put in applications for multiple jobs, attend multiple interviews if you can. The more time that passes between getting your license and landing a job, the worse it looks, especially as a new grad.
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So did you know you can get Up To Date as an app for personal use? Just login through your institution's credentials and you can make an individual username. Download the app and login. You will have to make sure you login with institution creds every once in a while, but whatev.
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djfooboo posted:So did you know you can get Up To Date as an app for personal use? Uh, it lists literally JUST HCA as an option when choosing Institutional Login, at least for me. 
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Koivunen posted:Three months is waaaay too long. The entire posting period, call-back, interview, and hire process usually takes about a month at most. Most places start making calls for interviews within a week or two of the original posting date. Definitely be calling HR a week after you reply if you don't hear anything. You should be actively pursuing them, don't wait for them to call you. Pretty much. The only hiring process I did that took more than a month was the VA and they're pretty much the outlier. The paperwork and hiring process for them is such a hassle to do.
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Annath posted:Uh, it lists literally JUST HCA as an option when choosing Institutional Login, at least for me. Based on my assessment, Hypothermic Circulatory Arrest is a likely contributor to your current state of health. Go ahead and select it.
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Maybe it's because I live in New York, but everyone I know who got hired told me they got calls back months after applying for jobs. For example a friend of mine got hired at a hospital in Long Island, she applied in June and got the call back in September. And my friend who works in the public city hospitals told me it can take months for callbacks because HR moves so slow.
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