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FreudianSlippers posted:A better non-Batman Batman show would be to do a show about like low-level criminals and regular cops in Gotham where you'd never actually see any iconic characters. Like at most the cops would see Commissioner Gordon walk out of his office and there'd be brief glimpse of a cape going out the window behind him. You could have the cops plant an undercover in one of the gangs, he starts to work up the ladder a bit, then gets into the upper-club where he can start seeing the head guy (penguin? Joker? give some inspirational speeches before a crime spree, then it could go a few different ways; his handler could be killed in a big raid so nobody knows his identity and you get some stuff like The Departed, or he could grow to like the life of crime, etc. Then the next season could follow a different low level character, maybe a detective, trying to piece together the investigation with just a few clues, and sometimes hindered/helped by Batman getting to a lead a few minutes before the cop can. Basically just try taking the premise seriously of what a normal person might do in that crazy world, instead of just making the crazy people the leads.
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GonSmithe posted:Under the Dome finally got cancelled.
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Oct 13, 2015 04:16
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Meanwhile, American Horror Story is still farting around Ryan Murphy's wet dreams. And I'm still watching hoping it gets good.
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Oct 13, 2015 04:28
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Meanwhile loving Heroes is back on the air. 
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kiimo posted:Meanwhile loving Heroes is back on the air. Well since you mentioned it... Is Heroes Reborn worth a goddamn? I saw a trailer and thought it looked like Hideo Kojima jizzed in a wishing well.
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Oct 13, 2015 05:20
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Well since you mentioned it... There is no way it has any of the fun of a hideo game
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Oct 13, 2015 05:34
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Well since you mentioned it... What does that even mean
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Is Heroes Reborn worth a goddamn? I saw a trailer and thought it looked like Hideo Kojima jizzed in a wishing well. ????????????????? what the hell is it with CD today with weirdass jabs that make absolutely no sense at all
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The Saddest Rhino posted:????????????????? here i saved you the obvious joke: actually that's CD everyday
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Oct 13, 2015 06:42
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In Heroes Reborn, there's a Japanese woman whose power is to apparently enter a video game her father made. When this happens, it's presented as CG animated sequences. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVRhJ1joGCQ
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Oct 13, 2015 06:57
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I liked the original Heroes, but literally the only way I know the reboot has even started is that apparently one of my dad's coworkers is really confused by it because he hadn't seen the original. Which is honestly weird to me, because even at its craziest Heroes was never that hard to follow, it was just stupid. Needing to know the original show to understand a reboot sounds like a really big storytelling failure, though.
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The MSJ posted:In Heroes Reborn, there's a Japanese woman whose power is to apparently enter a video game her father made. When this happens, it's presented as CG animated sequences. What the gently caress?
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The MSJ posted:In Heroes Reborn, there's a Japanese woman whose power is to apparently enter a video game her father made. When this happens, it's presented as CG animated sequences. That is straight from the 90s. Also katana girl, WTF.
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Oct 13, 2015 07:04
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The original Heroes wasn't even that good, it just came out at a time when superhero stuff was relatively uncommon and before LOST and its endless copycats inoculated people against big mystery plots that go nowhere and fizzle out since they're just making it up as they go along.
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Cleretic posted:I liked the original Heroes, but literally the only way I know the reboot has even started is that apparently one of my dad's coworkers is really confused by it because he hadn't seen the original. It's not actually a reboot, more like a sequel with mostly new characters. The protagonist is Glasses Guy from the first Heroes investigating a terrorist attack blamed on Dr Suresh that killed Cheerleader Chloe, he met the Haitian guy in the first episode, Katana Girl there is wielding Hiro Nakamura's sword, and that little girl Molly that has mutant GPS powers is a plot device and also totally hot now.
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Oct 13, 2015 07:15
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The first season of Heroes was good even with the very weak finale. After that it became unwatchable.
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Not even that really. Each episode of the first season was pretty mediocre. But the last five minutes would invariably throw out something that seemed incredible and made you wait for the next episode where it would be either ignored or turn to poo poo. The best thing I can say about the reboot is that despite looking forward for a 'season 8 Dexter' style hate watch, I don't actually hate this. It's not very good, let's be frank. But nobody's leaving their girlfriends in the future and Sylar isn't cycling between good and evil faster than you can blink. Mohinder may still appear to hold doors closed during epic finales, though. With almost everyone returning from the first series, there's still time for the series creator Kring to turn the behind the scenes stuff into the toxic wasteland it was with the original series where all the writers hated each other and would deliberately gently caress with other writer's pet characters and give them scenes which went nowhere or contradicted earlier scenes or were just outright gibberish. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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effectual posted:You could have the cops plant an undercover in one of the gangs, he starts to work up the ladder a bit, then gets into the upper-club where he can start seeing the head guy (penguin? Joker? give some inspirational speeches before a crime spree, then it could go a few different ways; his handler could be killed in a big raid so nobody knows his identity and you get some stuff like The Departed, or he could grow to like the life of crime, etc. Then the next season could follow a different low level character, maybe a detective, trying to piece together the investigation with just a few clues, and sometimes hindered/helped by Batman getting to a lead a few minutes before the cop can. Basically just try taking the premise seriously of what a normal person might do in that crazy world, instead of just making the crazy people the leads. Just read Gotham Central ffs. It deals with being a show about Gotham Cops in not just a Batman-filled world but an entire DC-Superhero filled world and pulls it off without feeling like it's pandering too hard to one style. Here's a very truncated bit of one storyarc:    Break   Break   Break   Break (basically they figure out Freeze is going to gently caress with the Air Conditioning at a graduation ceremony that former Comissioner Gordon is speaking at and the detectives need to call in SWAT/Batman before he kills everyone)  Break   It's not Shakespeare, but it's not hard to imagine a show like this flying on a cable network/online service. Gorilla Salad posted:Not even that really. Each episode of the first season was pretty mediocre. But the last five minutes would invariably throw out something that seemed incredible and made you wait for the next episode where it would be either ignored or turn to poo poo. Thank god I'm not alone in thinking this. Maybe it's just that I've read way too much in the superhero genre but nothing about Heroes was novel except for the fact that it had a varied multi-cultural cast and Abrams' "punt the carrot"-style hooks to make everything seem much more interesting than it is. quote:With almost everyone returning from the first series, there's still time for the series creator Kring to turn the behind the scenes stuff into the toxic wasteland it was with the original series where all the writers hated each other and would deliberately gently caress with other writer's pet characters and give them scenes which went nowhere or contradicted earlier scenes or were just outright gibberish. I would genuinely watch if this was like, the overall "premise" of a show. Get a bunch of geek writers in a room, give them all time to design their pet favorite characters that co-exist in service of some bigger story, then watch as they backbite each other episode by episode until the show is incomprehensible.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Well since you mentioned it... Nope. I kept hearing 'Oh yeah it's better now', so me and my friend sat down to watch the first episode and I honestly never felt like they missed a beat. I mean, they say 'reborn' but it's not really, it's just jumped ahead a few years and carried on as normal. By the time loving Mohinder started up his narration again I was out. Also, iZombie is the best zombie show. It shouldn't in any way shape or form work, but it does thanks to the writing and performances. Plus people liberally throw the word 'Zombie' around and it's OK. Plus the villain has this great capitalist plan that he's got going on.
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DrVenkman posted:Also, iZombie is the best zombie show. It shouldn't in any way shape or form work, but it does thanks to the writing and performances. Plus people liberally throw the word 'Zombie' around and it's OK. Plus the villain has this great capitalist plan that he's got going on. I scoffed at this show being any good, and it's my favorite CW show now. (Flash is a very close second)
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Gorilla Salad posted:With almost everyone returning from the first series, there's still time for the series creator Kring to turn the behind the scenes stuff into the toxic wasteland it was with the original series where all the writers hated each other and would deliberately gently caress with other writer's pet characters and give them scenes which went nowhere or contradicted earlier scenes or were just outright gibberish. I kind of want to watch a show about this, instead. An hour of complete assholes behind the scenes of a TV show constantly loving each other over for no other reason than petty spite and maybe the hope of a better paycheck. Like It's Always Sunny mixed with 30 Rock.
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If you don't mind waiting a few weeks, I may still be able to recommend Heroes as just exactly that.
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I quite liked the first season of Heroes though a lot of it had to do with being in a first year animation class with like 20 who watched it which made it a lot better. The second episode is literally Hiro throwing a fit because he can't rent a Nissan Versa like in the future comic and they scream the name so many times that I still loving remember it all these years later. Season two was absolute dogshit and I have a feeling the writers strike wasn't the only reason for it. I can't remember if Peter dying and waking up in Cork was after that season or not. But those were the worst Irish accents (they were like if all the new Yorkers in your show talked like rednecks, wrong part of the country) which is even worse because I think one was Aiden Gillen. And then he left his lady in future plague New York, promptly forgot about her and then erased that timeline. Zachary Quinto was fuckin dope though
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Shoehead posted:Season two was absolute dogshit and I have a feeling the writers strike wasn't the only reason for it. I can't remember if Peter dying and waking up in Cork was after that season or not. But those were the worst Irish accents (they were like if all the new Yorkers in your show talked like rednecks, wrong part of the country) which is even worse because I think one was Aiden Gillen. And then he left his lady in future plague New York, promptly forgot about her and then erased that timeline. They gave him the box next episode; turns out his wallet was in there. Mystery solved! Poster tax: 
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Sleeveless posted:The original Heroes wasn't even that good, it just came out at a time when superhero stuff was relatively uncommon and before LOST and its endless copycats inoculated people against big mystery plots that go nowhere and fizzle out since they're just making it up as they go along. No, it was after Lost. Before the first season they directly addressed that they weren't going to be the "type of show that doesn't tell you anything like Lost". You monkeys wish you could write anything remotely comparable to Lost. The first season was fun. The rest was insultingly bad. NISSAN ROGUE.
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Oct 13, 2015 17:03
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Better superpowers show than Heroes. (well, first two series, anyway)
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Oct 13, 2015 17:13
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Woebin posted:Better superpowers show than Heroes. I enjoyed it the whole way through. Quality definitely dipped as they rotated through characters, but the split personality guy carried that show on his back for a while.
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I actually dug the later seasons once they stopped focusing on Goonlord McStareface and his Goonlord McStare face, but I totally see why others would hate the newer characters.
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Oct 13, 2015 17:23
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mind the walrus posted:I actually dug the later seasons once they stopped focusing on Goonlord McStareface and his Goonlord McStare face, but I totally see why others would hate the newer characters. My main issue was that the immortal kid wasn't on the show anymore. The gag with him dying every week was great.
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MacheteZombie posted:My main issue was that the immortal kid wasn't on the show anymore. The gag with him dying every week was great. Yeah Rudy was alright but none of the other characters ever approached Nathan's charismatic dickery. I really like all three of these posters, from the "ripped from the newspapers" images to the typeset and font and logo. The hashtag kind of throws it off but that can't really be helped these days.
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MacheteZombie posted:My main issue was that the immortal kid wasn't on the show anymore. The gag with him dying every week was great. Yeah it's especially sad because it's not like the kid's career really took off after leaving the show, but it was clear he left because he was getting too big for his britches and thought it would. Oddly Goonlord McStareface is the one who "hit it big" thanks to Game of Thrones. King Vidiot posted:I really like all three of these posters, from the "ripped from the newspapers" images to the typeset and font and logo. The hashtag kind of throws it off but that can't really be helped these days. I dig them. I especially dig that the gravity of what's happening in them overshadows any need for an actor's name or tagline.
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mind the walrus posted:Yeah it's especially sad because it's not like the kid's career really took off after leaving the show, but it was clear he left because he was getting too big for his britches and thought it would. Oddly Goonlord McStareface is the one who "hit it big" thanks to Game of Thrones. Anyway here's a poo poo poster I don't remember seeing posted. 
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If someone corrects the tilt on that it might almost look ok for a poster. As-is I honestly got slightly nauseous just looking at it.
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Once again going to prove that the entire Hitman franchise is loving dumb if you're not playing Blood Money or Contracts and ignoring the plot.
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