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MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Just keep learning and learning, to the point where being laid off is "cool, free time to find a job making more money"

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

evobatman posted:

Another day, another all staff meeting with the CEO where he tells us that poo poo is hosed up in the oil business, and even more people have to be let go. I think we have had like 5 or 6 of them so far, but I'm still here. Until I'm not I guess.

Let me guess: Profits are only up 25% instead of 50% and therefor he can only afford to wash his yacht twice a week with the tears of 3rd world orphans instead of 1st word orphans correct?

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

RFC2324 posted:

This sounds like something that would get you sent to HR in a hurry.

You'd think, but I do all the ordering and my boss doesn't give any shits. My last ebates check was around $300.

Lightning Jim
Nov 18, 2006

Just a mad weather-ologist :science:
G

evobatman posted:

Another day, another all staff meeting with the CEO where he tells us that poo poo is hosed up in the oil business, and even more people have to be let go. I think we have had like 5 or 6 of them so far, but I'm still here. Until I'm not I guess.

Geez. I've got former co-workers that work IT for natural gas/oil as well right now...at least I think they still do.

I doubt the petero engineer friend I know however is ever going to get let go except for complete company collapse.

Gorau
Apr 28, 2008

ratbert90 posted:

Let me guess: Profits are only up 25% instead of 50% and therefor he can only afford to wash his yacht twice a week with the tears of 3rd world orphans instead of 1st word orphans correct?

I don't know, my company told all our service providers they need to drop their price by 30% or we'll find someone else. That was on top of earlier price reductions. I can see some MSP's being hit pretty hard by that.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Back in the '90s I worked for a place called "Computer City" for about a week. Can't get much more '90s than that name. Oh, it wasn't a regular Computer City: it was a SUPERCENTER!

Due to my familiarity with computers and retail experience they unleashed me immediately but I quickly got in trouble for not selling enough extended warranties. My supervisor was a dour guy named Klaus whose sole contribution to my development as an employee was to bark "TAKE YOUR HANDS OUT OF YOUR POCKETS" when he saw me patrolling the aisles.

I saw him years later stuck behind the upgrade counter at a CompUSA, not long before they started closing their stores.

gently caress you, Klaus.

EDIT: The only way it could've been more '90s is if I'd worked for Tandy's other retail tech disaster, Incredible Universe.

tomapot
Apr 7, 2005
Suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
Oven Wrangler

Vulture Culture posted:

This is why I can't enjoy NY winters anymore. I'm already staying home, now I just have a shitload of snow to shovel. Last place would close if it smelled like a storm.

This. The past two winters were brutal, two hours of snow blowing and shoveling then having to login to work. Had to burn a few sick days just to recover from being out of shoveling shape.

Dick Trauma posted:

Computer City
CompUSA
Incredible Universe

Thanks for the walk down memory lane, although I never worked there I would be in and out for parts all the time.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
This winter is supposed to be especially bad too. :rip:

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!
Apparently, I'm solo calling candidates to "phone screen" them for technical ability for a job I don't do in a branch I'm not in, with no questions or material provided other than the candidate resumes and a statement of work that doesn't match the duties of the person they are replacing or the expectations of the branch chief in question. I'm also a contractor screening other contractors with virtually no input from the feds.

:Wednesday:

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Dick Trauma posted:

Back in the '90s I worked for a place called "Computer City" for about a week. Can't get much more '90s than that name. Oh, it wasn't a regular Computer City: it was a SUPERCENTER!

Computer City still exists over here. I'm guessing it is remains of the same chain/franchise, since the stores here were also called Supercenter. I think they dropped that since.

I think they used to have all kinds of cool stuff, but now it's just a boring home electronics retailer, and with a mostly poor selection.

Lord Dudeguy
Sep 17, 2006
[Insert good English here]

CompUSA!!! :neckbeard:

My nostalgic heart's aflutter! Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun launch displays! Mechwarrior 2 with Virtual IO iGlasses! IBM Aptivas with the worst voice recognition software known to humanity!

Sorry. Lost my head there for a sec.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Docjowles posted:

Pretty sure getting rejected from Best Buy is a great sign for your abilities! A couple months back my mom went to them to buy a new laptop* and paid to have them transfer her data to the new device. All of her music and a bunch of documents didn't make it. Their response was essentially "lol it's your fault, also there's nothing we can do and we won't issue a refund, :frogout:"

* Despite asking for my advice, then rejecting all of the non-awful options I offered in favor of whatever $200 POS was on sale, because :moms:

Best Buy's tech support is incompetence personified, and being the only other computer/consumer electronics repair shop in the area we get to clean up their mess (and usually profit off of it) often. Just recently we had someone come in with a laptop that refused to boot. According to her Best Buy said that the machine was completely dead and that it wouldn't be worth fixing. Turns out the laptop uses the caps lock light to communicate error codes (I noticed that starting up the machine made the light blink three times, then turn off completely). A cursory Google search revealed that the specific error means the RAM's gone bad. Upsold her on some new larger RAM that we had lying around and we made some good cash off of a 30 minute fix because Geek Squad couldn't take five minutes to observe closely and do a Google search.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Segmentation Fault posted:

couldn't take five minutes to observe closely

I've talked a lot about troubleshooting fundamentals, this is the easiest step to skip and it's incredibly important.

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I've talked a lot about troubleshooting fundamentals, this is the easiest step to skip and it's incredibly important.

This can't be said enough.

Years ago my A+ certification course instructor had lots of chuckles at the expense of the students when they couldn't figure out that he'd wrapped the ends of the power plug in electrical tape.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Heard the office manager on a call. Don't know who he was talking to. He said "it's more complicated than a Japanese porn website!"

:dogbutton:

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Dick Trauma posted:

Back in the '90s I worked for a place called "Computer City" for about a week. Can't get much more '90s than that name. Oh, it wasn't a regular Computer City: it was a SUPERCENTER!

Due to my familiarity with computers and retail experience they unleashed me immediately but I quickly got in trouble for not selling enough extended warranties. My supervisor was a dour guy named Klaus whose sole contribution to my development as an employee was to bark "TAKE YOUR HANDS OUT OF YOUR POCKETS" when he saw me patrolling the aisles.

I saw him years later stuck behind the upgrade counter at a CompUSA, not long before they started closing their stores.

gently caress you, Klaus.

EDIT: The only way it could've been more '90s is if I'd worked for Tandy's other retail tech disaster, Incredible Universe.

Whoa. Was it the one in Overland Park? I worked there. Crazy easy work doing upgrades and warranty repair. Never worked the sales floor. Then they got bought by CompUSSR and we were put under the management of a guy whose only experience was managing Taco Bells. I didn't last a month, that place definitely felt like the money laundering front it was purported to be.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

This can't be said enough.

Years ago my A+ certification course instructor had lots of chuckles at the expense of the students when they couldn't figure out that he'd wrapped the ends of the power plug in electrical tape.

Back in high school I did a little work fixing minor computer problems in town. By far my favorite was the woman whose inkjet printer simply would not work. It would feed the paper through and act like it was printing, move the ink heads around etc, but the sheet always came out blank. Took me an annoyingly long time dicking around with drivers and whatnot to figure out.

I finally pulled out the ink cartridge and she had forgotten to remove the strip of tape that goes over the head to prevent leaking :lol: Always remember to check Layer 1...

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

This can't be said enough.

Years ago my A+ certification course instructor had lots of chuckles at the expense of the students when they couldn't figure out that he'd wrapped the ends of the power plug in electrical tape.

I would do something like this to my classmates when I took an A+ class, except I'd flip the 115v/220v switch on the back of the PSU.

Second semester of that class was really just dedicated to Unreal Tournament 2004.

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

AlternateAccount posted:

Then they got bought by CompUSSR and we were put under the management of a guy whose only experience was managing Taco Bells. I didn't last a month, that place definitely felt like the money laundering front it was purported to be.

Haha! I worked at a CompUSA in Modesto. A few months after I quit and relocated to the Bay Area, I stopped by to pick up some parts for my parents system. I spoke to some of my former co-workers who said most of the managers were fired for stealing. This was back in early 2000's, so it was mostly PDA's, since those were the hot item at the time. I think the store maybe lasted another year before it was closed.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Well, I just knocked an interview out of the park.

Unfortunately, I'm not going to take the job even if I get the offer. I sure wish the recruiter would have mentioned that it could require out of state travel for days rather than just day trips down to Denver.

Meraki people, for the "Last 2h/1d/1w/30d" listings, does it just go with what has been used, or what is connected? I see printers that show as offline that I can still access the web servers for pretty regularly.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

This can't be said enough.

Years ago my A+ certification course instructor had lots of chuckles at the expense of the students when they couldn't figure out that he'd wrapped the ends of the power plug in electrical tape.

I think you're sorta understanding what I'm getting at. I'm talking even more basic than that though. You get a call from a user saying their computer doesn't work.

When you get there you notice that the Monitor says No Signal and its power light is on. You glance at the keyboard and notice that none of the capslock, numlock, scroll lock lights are lit, you press capslock just to see. No change. You look under the desk at the PC, the light on the front is off and you don't hear the fans. You press the power button, nothing.

These are REALLY basic symptoms but they tell you a lot. From here you can probably narrow the problem down to a few general areas.

You know that there's probably not a blown fuse, building power or UPS problem because the monitor works. More importantly, you can probably use the monitor's power outlet as a known good. The cable too if it comes to that.

Here's a few likely problems:
1. The power outlet for the PC is broken.
2. The power cord for the PC is broken.
3. The power supply for the PC is broken.
4. The motherboard is broken.
5. Something complicated is going on.

Complicated is fun, but let's be logical.

You're going to want to half split here. As you become a more skilled troubleshooter you'll learn to take into account how easy a split is, and how likely different problems are, but for now, let's just try to separate 1,2 from 3,4.

Test 1: Unplug power cord from back of PC. Unplug power cord from back of monitor. Plug monitor power into back of PC. Press Power button on PC.
Result: PC begins power up cycle.

This tells you that the problem is either the cord or the outlet. So power the PC back off, set the cord back how they were to begin with.
Test 2: Unplug both power cords from outlets, plug PC into other outlet.
Result: PC does not power up.

We already knew that the other power outlet was good, so it's not a power outlet issue. The problem is definitely with the power cord. Return the Monitor power back to how it was.,

Test 3. Replace power cord for PC.
Result: PC powers up.

At this point, we could troubleshoot the power cord, maybe there's a short, or a damaged connector. I think it's probably best to just toss it.

Finally, we can do failure analysis. This is really good for new technicians. Why did a bad power cord cause the original symptoms?
Bad power cord means no power from wall to PC Power supply. That means that no power will be sent to the power light or fans. Furthermore, it means that the keyboard can't get power either so no Caps Lock lights. The monitor would still get power, but since it isn't getting a signal from the PC it still gets a NO SIGNAL sign on it.

I know this seems obvious, this is what goes through the brain of a troubleshooter, but if you have new people, you have to spell it out until they start to learn.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

ChubbyThePhat posted:

This winter is supposed to be especially bad too. :rip:

I hope so!

(But then, I work at a ski resort, so it means more budget for me in the summer.)

Docjowles posted:

Back in high school I did a little work fixing minor computer problems in town. By far my favorite was the woman whose inkjet printer simply would not work. It would feed the paper through and act like it was printing, move the ink heads around etc, but the sheet always came out blank. Took me an annoyingly long time dicking around with drivers and whatnot to figure out.

I finally pulled out the ink cartridge and she had forgotten to remove the strip of tape that goes over the head to prevent leaking :lol: Always remember to check Layer 1...

That's Layer 8.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Colonial Air Force posted:

I hope so!

(But then, I work at a ski resort, so it means more budget for me in the summer.)


That's Layer 8.

Yep, classic PEBKAC issue.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

ChubbyThePhat posted:

This winter is supposed to be especially bad too. :rip:

Yeah I just dropped a lot of money on a separate set of winter tires and rims after almost meeting a snowy demise several times last winter.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
There's a thing I don't know. Is it my boss's responsibility to teach me, or is it my responsibility to ask? Is he supposed to train me, or am I supposed to get trained?

I already know the answer to this question and you're not going to change my mind, but I am curious where other people fall on this.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!
If you knowing more about a technology benefits the team/organization or is required to do your job, then it's your management's responsibility to make sure you are adequately trained (whether that's directly or through third party training).

If it's training that's tailored towards your goals (even if it's likely to help your organization), then you will likely need to be proactive about making it happen.

Realistically, it's more of a middle ground. You probably have one on one time with your manager, even if it's informal - among other things those discussions should cover what training is expected of you and what training you would want to get, and the logistics of making sure that happens.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

There's a thing I don't know. Is it my boss's responsibility to teach me, or is it my responsibility to ask? Is he supposed to train me, or am I supposed to get trained?

I already know the answer to this question and you're not going to change my mind, but I am curious where other people fall on this.

Your boss likely doesn't know what you don't know.

Ask to get trained.

mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Existential crisis: I am sick, but I barely do anything anyway and I work from home, so being sick has no actual bearing on my work. Why even be sick?

I did this a few days ago, used it as a way to #connect with #clients/#coworkers I hardly ever engage with on a #personal level.

*cough cough*, sorry your active directory federated services is causing an outage with your single *cough* sign on system, I'll *cough* get right on that sorry I'm sick, you know how it goes!!!!! oh whats that don't worry about it until next week? why no I'd never leave you in a *haccccckkkk* lurch like that!

Grimshak
Oct 8, 2013

I know you need the meat, girl, but damn.
I strongly believe in leaving a ticket for two days (unless urgent) before addressing it. Doing so results in way more tickets than you would think solving themselves.

We're in slow season right now as far as tickets go. I probably have 6 right now. Out of the 18 or so I've been assigned this week, 5 solved themselves. That's a 27.78% increase in efficiency!

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
That's 27% of people not submitting tickets in the future because they know it takes two days and you might not even address it, so why bother?

If it's something that might solve itself, it's a slam dunk to show up, act like you care, and walk away the hero in 30 seconds.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Or they'll figure out that you only respond to urgent tickets and start gaming the system.

mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich

Grimshak posted:

I strongly believe in leaving a ticket for two days (unless urgent) before addressing it. Doing so results in way more tickets than you would think solving themselves.

We're in slow season right now as far as tickets go. I probably have 6 right now. Out of the 18 or so I've been assigned this week, 5 solved themselves. That's a 27.78% increase in efficiency!

sorry this is dumb, solve the loving ticket within an hour of it being opened or what the gently caress are you doing in IT. if it's user error or you need more details tell them, that's fine, but still reassign to user or solve as quick as humanly possible.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

psydude posted:

Or they'll figure out that you only respond to urgent tickets and start gaming the system.

Urgent tickets get resolved last. The trick to get your ticket done immediately is to mark it as low importance.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
My boss is offering to pay for a bunch of training stuff but has no idea what to get as part of our budget for next year. I told him to get CBTNuggets for our department, but is there anything else I should recommend?

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Kashuno posted:

My boss is offering to pay for a bunch of training stuff but has no idea what to get as part of our budget for next year. I told him to get CBTNuggets for our department, but is there anything else I should recommend?

http://www.pluralsight.com/

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

A safari books subscription would be cool. You can get all of the O'Reilly books online that way.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

Kashuno posted:

My boss is offering to pay for a bunch of training stuff but has no idea what to get as part of our budget for next year. I told him to get CBTNuggets for our department, but is there anything else I should recommend?

http://www.pass4sure.com/ :rimshot:

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

BaseballPCHiker posted:

A safari books subscription would be cool. You can get all of the O'Reilly books online that way.

This would be my first choice.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

There's a thing I don't know. Is it my boss's responsibility to teach me, or is it my responsibility to ask? Is he supposed to train me, or am I supposed to get trained?

I already know the answer to this question and you're not going to change my mind, but I am curious where other people fall on this.
Only two answers? Cowards, the lot of you.

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Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

There's a thing I don't know. Is it my boss's responsibility to teach me, or is it my responsibility to ask? Is he supposed to train me, or am I supposed to get trained?

I already know the answer to this question and you're not going to change my mind, but I am curious where other people fall on this.
This isn't an "or" question.

People can't be expected to know what they don't know they should know. It's the job of management or senior staff to keep on top of this. It's also the job of management to foster a culture where people can ask questions without being looked or talked down upon by the people they're asking, and to do everything they can to facilitate a learning organization through the free exchange of information. At the same time, if someone understands the parameters of their job, understands that there are skills they're lacking, understands they need to take steps to bring those skills to the table and then does nothing to actually improve themselves on the job, that's likely to be a problem with that employee's work ethic.

At its core, like everything else, this is a question about complicated systems, and how people with different personalities, fears, insecurities, wants, and needs interact within them.

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