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Saint Celestine: Dec 17, 2008; Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.
- Saint Sabbat, Lessons; Grimey Drawer

1" deck ? Good luck with that.

# ? Oct 26, 2015 00:54

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 12:55

TehKeen: May 24, 2006; Maybe she's born with it.
Maybe it's cosmoline.

Drop the middle turret and add like 5 more inches of turret armor too. :gonk:

# ? Oct 26, 2015 02:40

TheDemon: Dec 11, 2006; _{...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.}

Hey just pointing out, if we start a war as quickly as we can we lose the stupid restrictions.

# ? Oct 26, 2015 02:50

Arglebargle III: Feb 21, 2006

Frontspac posted:

My ships! My beautiful ships!

Oh well, this LP at least convinced me to buy a copy of the game for myself. Now I get to build monsters like this:

Thicker belts than turrets THICKER BELTS THAN TURRETS no Mr. Fisher no, please, think of the widows and orphans Mr. Fisher!

# ? Oct 26, 2015 04:16

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

Build some cruisers and destroyers and beat up the Italians.

# ? Oct 26, 2015 06:05

Veloxyll: May 3, 2011; Fuck you say?!

Arglebargle III posted:

Thicker belts than turrets THICKER BELTS THAN TURRETS no Mr. Fisher no, please, think of the widows and orphans Mr. Fisher!

You people are no fun at all :p

# ? Oct 26, 2015 06:53

Tomn: Aug 23, 2007; And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

So you guys are gonna vote to repeal the "never lose prestige ever" law now.

Right???

# ? Oct 26, 2015 07:38

Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

I want to see Grey play a game as the US and just chaos dunk on all of Europe.

# ? Oct 26, 2015 08:12

TehKeen: May 24, 2006; Maybe she's born with it.
Maybe it's cosmoline.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I want to see Grey play a game as the US and just chaos dunk on all of Europe.

He had a few US videos on his youtube channel but the audio got messed up on like part 5/6 and he's playing russia now.

# ? Oct 26, 2015 10:13

Dunno-Lars: Apr 7, 2011

TehKeen posted:

He had a few US videos on his youtube channel but the audio got messed up on like part 5/6 and he's playing russia now.

And for the record: https://www.youtube.com/user/greyhunterlp

# ? Oct 26, 2015 17:20

sbaldrick: Jul 19, 2006; Driven by Hate

drat it France

I'm surprised they didn't steal the Saxe given it's our one good modern BC

# ? Oct 26, 2015 17:37

Saint Celestine: Dec 17, 2008; Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.
- Saint Sabbat, Lessons; Grimey Drawer

I think we won that war, given how we took literally all of Great Britain's important overseas possessions. Only thing we didn't take was Singapore.

Saint Celestine fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Oct 26, 2015

# ? Oct 26, 2015 18:07

Speleothing: May 6, 2008; Spare batteries are pretty key.

Saint Celestine posted:

I think we won that war, given how we took literally all of Great Britain's important overseas possessions. Only thing we didn't take was Singapore.

And we won't be wasting our money on battleships that will become obsolete in the face of aircraft!

# ? Oct 26, 2015 19:01

Tomn: Aug 23, 2007; And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

It's pretty weird that you get to keep possession the Army invaded even if you lose the war catastrophically.

Come to that, as the victors of the war shouldn't GB have had the option to enforce territorial demands? Did they take anything? I think I missed it if I did.

Also just as important - to think, if we'd won this war we could have permanently crippled the Royal Navy once and for all with a terrible treaty limitation!

# ? Oct 26, 2015 19:22

Koorisch: Mar 29, 2009

The important question here is if we have access to oil or not?

# ? Oct 26, 2015 19:34

Arglebargle III: Feb 21, 2006

If yer have enough point ye can take back possessions that ha been invaded yar.

# ? Oct 26, 2015 19:40

ro5s: Dec 27, 2012; A happy little mouse!

Tomn posted:

It's pretty weird that you get to keep possession the Army invaded even if you lose the war catastrophically.

Come to that, as the victors of the war shouldn't GB have had the option to enforce territorial demands? Did they take anything? I think I missed it if I did.

Also just as important - to think, if we'd won this war we could have permanently crippled the Royal Navy once and for all with a terrible treaty limitation!

Can you ever impose a treaty on the AI? I've never seen that in any war I've won, by negotiation or revolution.

# ? Oct 26, 2015 19:52

Darkrenown: Jul 18, 2012; please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes

Tomn posted:

So you guys are gonna vote to repeal the "never lose prestige ever" law now.

Right???

Good lord no! He's got to max out his prestige before the game ends to leave a worthy legacy! You don't want a coal tender or something as your namesake.

# ? Oct 26, 2015 20:09

Tomn: Aug 23, 2007; And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

ro5s posted:

Can you ever impose a treaty on the AI? I've never seen that in any war I've won, by negotiation or revolution.

I have no idea, I don't own the game and was just expecting it since the AI can apparently do it to you. Apparently not, from your account?

# ? Oct 26, 2015 20:13

Pershing: Feb 21, 2010; John "Black Jack" Pershing
Hard Fucking Core

Saint Celestine posted:

I think we won that war, given how we took literally all of Great Britain's important overseas possessions. Only thing we didn't take was Singapore.

I'm imagining the scenario was our revanchist government pushing for total victory and our people finally said "For Christ's sake, enough!".

# ? Oct 27, 2015 01:57

AJ_Impy: Jun 17, 2007; SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?; Yam Slacker

Basically, we won, and then imposed the treaty on ourselves.

"Zut alors, you Rosbifs are such walkovers! Now that the Mediterranean is Notre Mer, you are no challenge whatsoever! Here, have a couple of our finest ships, we'll hold off building anything else larger than a cruiser, and maybe you will not be so pathetic next time, hein?

# ? Oct 27, 2015 02:20

Adventure Pigeon: Nov 8, 2005; I am a master storyteller.

Arglebargle III posted:

I still don't think you can build a CA that can survive an encounter with a BC. All you can do is make it fast enough to run. But CAs don't exist anymore. You don't need a heavy cruiser to kill a light cruiser. So what is this ship for? Why not just build a large CL for 1/3 the cost of the CA? You can even get large guns on a large light cruiser.

Are you seriously trying to go through this again? There're still plenty of CAs. Anyways, go design a ship if you want to put something up instead of complaining at me.

# ? Oct 27, 2015 15:26

hlwss: Nov 12, 2007

TheDemon posted:

Hey just pointing out, if we start a war as quickly as we can we lose the stupid restrictions.

# ? Oct 28, 2015 01:22

James Garfield: May 5, 2012; Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

Koorisch posted:

The important question here is if we have access to oil or not?

Starting in 1920 (?) you can build oil fired ships without oil access.

# ? Oct 28, 2015 06:53

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

TheDemon posted:

Hey just pointing out, if we start a war as quickly as we can we lose the stupid restrictions.

I would like to third this with the Beat up on Italy act It requires Grey to go to war with Italy ASAP. We will use our destroyers and cruisers to ruin their fleet.

# ? Oct 29, 2015 16:30

Galaga Galaxian: Apr 23, 2009; What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!

There is only 3 years left in the "normal" game, I assume Grey will be stopping there instead of dragging it out to 1950?

# ? Oct 29, 2015 16:44

Grey Hunter: Oct 17, 2007; Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Yeah, I'll be winding this up then - the game's not really designed to go longer, thats just what people requested.

So, how are we doing for this time around? the board looks pretty quiet.

# ? Oct 29, 2015 17:09

Tomn: Aug 23, 2007; And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

Grey Hunter posted:

Yeah, I'll be winding this up then - the game's not really designed to go longer, thats just what people requested.

So, how are we doing for this time around? the board looks pretty quiet.

I think it's mostly drinking copious amounts of wine and damning the rosbifs.

Edit: Wait, does this represent the one time Grey Hunter has failed to sink the Royal Navy?

# ? Oct 29, 2015 17:17

Dreamsicle: Oct 16, 2013

Tomn posted:

I think it's mostly drinking copious amounts of wine and damning the rosbifs.

Edit: Wait, does this represent the one time Grey Hunter has failed to sink the Royal Navy?

He succeeded the first time and could was close the second time.

I'm pretty sure Jutland LP was the first time.

# ? Oct 29, 2015 17:43

Nothingtoseehere: Nov 11, 2010

Dreamsicle posted:

He succeeded the first time and could was close the second time.

I'm pretty sure Jutland LP was the first time.

Ehm. War In the Pacific?

# ? Oct 29, 2015 18:31

Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

The ending to Jutland still pisses me off. Grey blasted the Royal Navy and had Britain blockaded but because they technically had more ships hiding in their harbors still they won because of the broken victory conditions.

# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:24

Ikasuhito: Sep 29, 2013; Haram as Fuck.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

The ending to Jutland still pisses me off. Grey blasted the Royal Navy and had Britain blockaded but because they technically had more ships hiding in their harbors still they won because of the broken victory conditions.

No you are thinking of Steam and iron. Jutland was another game Grey did a while back.

Grey should hit up Jutland again, so as to remove the stigma from his name.

Ikasuhito fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Oct 29, 2015

# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:52

Dreamsicle: Oct 16, 2013

nothing to seehere posted:

Ehm. War In the Pacific?

Talking about the first time he failed not succeeded.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

The ending to Jutland still pisses me off. Grey blasted the Royal Navy and had Britain blockaded but because they technically had more ships hiding in their harbors still they won because of the broken victory conditions.

That was Steam and Iron. Jutland is this: http://lparchive.org/Jutland/

# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:54

TheDemon: Dec 11, 2006; _{...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.}

What are tensions like? That will tell us pretty much if going to war with someone is viable - I wouldn't try Britain again, for example.

Crowsbeak posted:

I would like to third this with the Beat up on Italy act It requires Grey to go to war with Italy ASAP. We will use our destroyers and cruisers to ruin their fleet.

You really can't pick and choose who you war with. It requires specific events that you'd have to be lucky to obtain. Also put your board in the "Proposed By" field instead of your name.

# ? Oct 30, 2015 03:07

Thefluffy: Sep 7, 2014

go full Hitler and get as many of your "so called countrymen" killed as we are clearly losing this game and I am a spiteful poo poo.

# ? Oct 30, 2015 03:29

pthighs: Jun 21, 2013; Pillbug

Go to war with a smaller power if possible. Otherwise, just go to war.

# ? Oct 30, 2015 03:48

TheDemon: Dec 11, 2006; _{...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.}

Les Imb�ciles proposes the following new cruiser design:

Modern Light Cruiser Initiative

Build a new class of CL, with a minimum of 6 ships and a maximum of the Admiral's discretion, to the following specifications:
- 8000 tons
- 30 knot top speed, oil fired
- all or nothing "Flat Deck on Top of Belt" armor configuration
- 2" belt, conning tower, turret face, and turret top armor
- 1.5" deck armor
- 0" secondary armor
- three double 8" turret main armament, with at least 120 rounds, increased elevation
- eight 6" secondary armament in single turrets
- best fire control, two positions
- two broadside swivel torpedo launchers per side, maximum size available
If tonnage remains,
- increase deck armor to 2"
- add a fourth double 8" main turret
- add torpedo launchers
- add secondary guns
- add up to 50 mines
- add tower armor

Sample Design:

If we can cram 2" deck armor I'd be overjoyed but it's basically not possible if we're using dual turrets like we should be. Frankly, I'd be surprised if we got these into a battle before game end, but we definitely won't be getting BBs to market before 1925 so they're probably the quickest shipbuilding improvement we can make, and we need to start them right now.

# ? Oct 30, 2015 03:57

AJ_Impy: Jun 17, 2007; SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?; Yam Slacker

Get the restrictions lifted, if beating up Italy is what is required, teach them whose sea it is.

# ? Oct 30, 2015 08:32

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

TheDemon posted:

Les Imb�ciles proposes the following new cruiser design:

Modern Light Cruiser Initiative

Build a new class of CL, with a minimum of 6 ships and a maximum of the Admiral's discretion, to the following specifications:
- 8000 tons
- 30 knot top speed, oil fired
- all or nothing "Flat Deck on Top of Belt" armor configuration
- 2" belt, conning tower, turret face, and turret top armor
- 1.5" deck armor
- 0" secondary armor
- three double 8" turret main armament, with at least 120 rounds, increased elevation
- eight 6" secondary armament in single turrets
- best fire control, two positions
- two broadside swivel torpedo launchers per side, maximum size available
If tonnage remains,
- increase deck armor to 2"
- add a fourth double 8" main turret
- add torpedo launchers
- add secondary guns
- add up to 50 mines
- add tower armor

Sample Design:

If we can cram 2" deck armor I'd be overjoyed but it's basically not possible if we're using dual turrets like we should be. Frankly, I'd be surprised if we got these into a battle before game end, but we definitely won't be getting BBs to market before 1925 so they're probably the quickest shipbuilding improvement we can make, and we need to start them right now.

I can support this, more cruisers are what we need to humiliate the Italians.

# ? Oct 30, 2015 19:52

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 12:55

Hogge Wild: Aug 21, 2012; by FactsAreUseless; Pillbug

try to start a war, any war will do

# ? Oct 30, 2015 19:55

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