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what the gently caress are you arguing about the guy kills baddies in one punch
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 13:48 |
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# ? Jun 13, 2024 05:26 |
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Playing the intro music over the fight made it far more epic a sequence as well as not eating up precious seconds away from the fight by playing the full intro. If you think otherwise you are objectively wrong.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 14:08 |
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Crazyeyes posted:Playing the intro music over the fight made it far more epic a sequence as well as not eating up precious seconds away from the fight by playing the full intro. If you think otherwise you are objectively wrong.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 14:10 |
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If there's any weaknesses in the anime outside of a few scenes that didn't transition their full potential from ONE/Murata's versions it's basically the lack of time they've had to characterize what eventually becomes the One Punch Crew. King in particular. King's travails, Fubuki's, and the next major arc after this in general are pure gold- a second season that ended after the next major arc would make stuff in the first season seem even better on a rewatch.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 14:17 |
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This episode had my jaw to the floor all the way through the fight, the animators deserve a goddamn medal holy cow that was amazing. What a fight. I really love it when you can just SEE the animators passion and love on the screen, the color choices used for the fight were mindbolowing, awesome awesome awwwsome. Also I'm really glad that sweet mask is getting bigger "I'm a total douchebag" treatment, I wonder if he really will be a major villain at some point. Man, I really admire OPM, ONE, Murata, The Aniamtors, they did a really amazing job with it overall. For a second there I thought studio Trigger were the only ones left who could deliver hype, but I'm glad to see I'm wrong. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Dec 21, 2015 |
# ? Dec 21, 2015 15:00 |
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this episode was amazing and if those tiny nitpicks really stopped you from enjoying it that much then id hate to be you
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 15:02 |
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Three punch man. RIP Boros you were pretty strong
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 15:07 |
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While I agree with the people nitpicking on the first Serious Punch Saitama has thrown being kind of undersold, I feel like that fits pretty well with the theme and Saitama as a character in general. The sound design around it could maybe have been a bit better (maybe by making it entirely silent and then a rushing base as if a nuclear detonation took place) but you kinda gotta remember that Saitama himself is kind of an underselling guy. He didn't launch a flashy kamehameha that took all of his strength to fire. He throw a single punch, the same you and I'd throw in a dangerous situation or during training, and it was nothing special, the force behind the punch was the single factor behind it. I dunno, I liked it.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 15:09 |
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TWIST FIST posted:this episode was amazing and if those tiny nitpicks really stopped you from enjoying it that much then id hate to be you I think everybody who read the manga is gonna have nitpicks, I noticed flaws all over too. But everything was just so awesome that they didn't matter at all, to me at least.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 15:23 |
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there is almost no point comparing the anime to the Murata redraw, because it is as if God himself inhabits Murata's body, so humans can only pay tribute to his works.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 16:31 |
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Yeah, I think there's a limit to how nit picky you can be. The studio absolutely did their best to make this final episode bombastic and I think they succeeded on most if not all levels. This was a solid anime adaption from start to finish and I don't know how much more I would ask except for a second season.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 16:51 |
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I think the best little thing from the episode was Tatsumaki's reaction/expression when Saitama landed back on the ship from the moon jump. Everyone was like "YEAH IT'S WORKING! YOU'RE DOING IT!" and she knew that whatever just happened was 100% not related to what she was doing.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 16:55 |
My only nitpick is that I wish the doom-ish track stwrted playing immediately after "are you done with this?" so its more clearly the dread of the villain still not taking the protagonist seriously, otherwise it was fantastic.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:01 |
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Looking forward to the second season in another year or two. Or maybe longer. poo poo, Murata's never gonna finish the current arc.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:16 |
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The one thing I wish they'd kept from the manga was the bit with Boros dashing at Saitama so fast the ground was exploding beneath his steps (right after Saitama gets back from the moon), hitting Saitama with a massive flurry of blows, and then Saitama knocks him back with a punch, and this all happens so fast that Boros flies backwards past the ongoing explosions caused by his initial forward spurt. That was cool as hell in Murata's version. They kept the rush and the punch but not that little detail that made it all so much cooler.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:17 |
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Mordaedil posted:While I agree with the people nitpicking on the first Serious Punch Saitama has thrown being kind of undersold, I feel like that fits pretty well with the theme and Saitama as a character in general. The sound design around it could maybe have been a bit better (maybe by making it entirely silent and then a rushing base as if a nuclear detonation took place) but you kinda gotta remember that Saitama himself is kind of an underselling guy. He didn't launch a flashy kamehameha that took all of his strength to fire. He throw a single punch, the same you and I'd throw in a dangerous situation or during training, and it was nothing special, the force behind the punch was the single factor behind it. The point of the Serious Strike is that he's finally not underselling though so there's no need to hold back on it. Little nitpicks are "oh, Saitama was smiling here instead of neutral as shown on page 64 of vol.3, that's weird and bad". Those mean nothing by any means. Questionable pacing and sound design are legitimate complaints that have a notable impact on the final product. They stuck out in this episode because they've not been hugely present or even notably so beforehand. I'm not trying to convince anyone they're wrong and that they should fall in line with my opinion on the episode, nor does it hurt to have someone say "this has flaws" amongst the acclaim or like Elentor says, you can notice them and not give a poo poo.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:20 |
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Yeah the serious punch is such a hype moment in the manga (it's the first time we ever see saitama get any kind of serious) so it's kinda lame when it falls flat. One thing I didn't get when I read the manga is Saitama's serious punch was so strong it reflected boro's beam and that is what killed him.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:26 |
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DrManiac posted:Yeah the serious punch is such a hype moment in the manga (it's the first time we ever see saitama get any kind of serious) so it's kinda lame when it falls flat. Probably because that didn't happen.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:28 |
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DrManiac posted:Yeah the serious punch is such a hype moment in the manga (it's the first time we ever see saitama get any kind of serious) so it's kinda lame when it falls flat. No, it was so strong it split the beam in two (that's the smaller split in the clouds when you see Earth from space) and killed the poo poo out of Boros, and presumably countless birds as well.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:29 |
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Wait, in what way was the serious punch undersold? I thought it was done pretty well.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:29 |
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I miss the part where Boros tore off one of the pillars and threw it at Saitama so hard he bore through like 70% of his ship in the process.DrManiac posted:Yeah the serious punch is such a hype moment in the manga (it's the first time we ever see saitama get any kind of serious) so it's kinda lame when it falls flat. Is that what happened? I thought it was just the shockwave of his punch. SpacePig posted:Wait, in what way was the serious punch undersold? I thought it was done pretty well. People feel like they did it too fast and it could've had a bit more build up.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:29 |
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AnonSpore posted:No, it was so strong it split the beam in two (that's the smaller split in the clouds when you see Earth from space) and killed the poo poo out of Boros, and presumably countless birds as well. Rip birds
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:57 |
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Maybe it was too fast But you people realize that "Serious Punch" was not a serious punch for Saitama either
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 18:11 |
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Not sure if this has been posted but they did a music video for the full One Punch OP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QImBolnTVH8
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 18:27 |
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RareAcumen posted:People feel like they did it too fast and it could've had a bit more build up. It was just a punch, though. He's not focusing his chi or something. He's just putting effort into a punch. He's not even putting all of his effort into it. I think it's prefect.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 18:52 |
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The full vid is also subbed, though since I can't link directly to it, I'll just link the page instead: http://www.lyrical-nonsense.com/lyrics/jam-project/the-hero-ikareru-kobushi-ni-hi-wo-tsukero/#page=English
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 18:59 |
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SpacePig posted:It was just a punch, though. He's not focusing his chi or something. He's just putting effort into a punch. He's not even putting all of his effort into it. I think it's prefect. It was different in the manga. With no time limit to how long you could take to reading everything we all thought it was this big dramatic thing than what it turned out to be in the anime.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:11 |
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RareAcumen posted:It was different in the manga. I read the manga, and even looked this section and the clip from the show after I read that people had a problem. Unless I'm stupid, it's shot-for-shot identical. And it takes about the time it would take to throw an exaggerated punch.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:18 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:The point of the Serious Strike is that he's finally not underselling though so there's no need to hold back on it. No, he's still underselling it. He's putting effort in, but it's a begrudging effort. It's 'ugh I actually have to deal with you so fine, here you go whatever' not a manly explosion of punching rage and energy. It reads as triumphant in the manga because you expect it to be and the text is big, which is usually a marker of shouting. It turns out that the serious punch is actually sort of sad because he was still holding back. Maybe that's a change and maybe you like the manga version better, but this one is equally as valid and actually fits better thematically, imo.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:25 |
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RareAcumen posted:It was different in the manga. Every time I look at past chapters, I'm always struck by "godDAMN that is drawn well"
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:26 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Little nitpicks are "oh, Saitama was smiling here instead of neutral as shown on page 64 of vol.3, that's weird and bad". Those mean nothing by any means. Josuke Higashikata posted:Look it on the other side of the coin, perhaps you're forgiving of genuine flaws and areas which could have been improved upon because you don't want to think "this could be better?" It's okay to think that things you like can and could be better than they already are. You're disappointed in the final episode. Cool. I was disappointed a bit by the Sea King finale. You can talk about it as much as you want, but don't do it like this.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:27 |
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NmareBfly posted:No, he's still underselling it. He's putting effort in, but it's a begrudging effort. It's 'ugh I actually have to deal with you so fine, here you go whatever' not a manly explosion of punching rage and energy. It reads as triumphant in the manga because you expect it to be and the text is big, which is usually a marker of shouting. It turns out that the serious punch is actually sort of sad because he was still holding back. Maybe that's a change and maybe you like the manga version better, but this one is equally as valid and actually fits better thematically, imo. SpacePig posted:I read the manga, and even looked this section and the clip from the show after I read that people had a problem. Unless I'm stupid, it's shot-for-shot identical. And it takes about the time it would take to throw an exaggerated punch. Yeah, basically, I think it's just that people read a different tone from it since it was all text.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:28 |
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The amount of panels Murata decided to draw to convey the punch is largely what gives that shot its weight. It's 9 full panels from winding up to Boros being hit. Every other punch is a usually a single page or panel. Even on a speed read, that takes a while to get through and the reason that was drawn that to increase your tension, anticipation and make you wonder what the gently caress's going to happen if Saitama actually tries to punch someone *hard*. The speed of the anime's Serious Punch doesn't convey that very well and by the time he's finished saying Serious Punch, it's sort of already happened. The anime hits all of the panels, sure, but it would have helped by slowing the punch down, doubling the time in the wind up perhaps. It's not about showing what time it might have taken in real life. It's hard for the anime to emulate the time taken for a reader to read pages, but I don't think they got it right this time, where as they nailed mostly everything else. Bad Seafood posted:[this post] That really wasn't the intention so apologies for that, but noted. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Dec 21, 2015 |
# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:37 |
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This was an excellent cartoon perhass the best ive seen
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:42 |
Was the punch nine pages in the printed version?
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:46 |
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Print volume isn't there yet; in English anyway. Not sure about Viz's digital version.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:55 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:It's hard for the anime to emulate the time taken for a reader to read pages, but I don't think they got it right this time, where as they nailed mostly everything else. You're still assuming the anime did it 'wrong,' not 'differently.' Do you not agree that it works better thematically? I'm giving the animators the benefit of the doubt here because this is essentially the climax to the whole first season and I'm sure they worked on it and discussed every frame of the punch for days, likely with the input of both One and Murata at every step. If it comes off as a bit of a wet fart compared to what you were expecting, is it possible that was the whole point? E: Saitama's disappointed by the serious punch. Shouldn't we be too? It was a punchline, not a punch.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:55 |
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I feel like the beam dying, the smoke clearing, the enormous shockwave, the ship exploding, and the clouds parting around the globe lent a pretty good heft to the punch. The punch itself doesn't need to be so drawn out when the effects can be seen so clearly. What would've been an acceptable amount of time for the punch?
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:57 |
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'Do I not agree that it works better thematically?' No but that's why I think they got it wrong. Even if they chose to do it differently, to me, that was the wrong choice to make, I don't think those two terms are mutually exclusive of each other either.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:58 |
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NmareBfly posted:No, he's still underselling it. He's putting effort in, but it's a begrudging effort. It's 'ugh I actually have to deal with you so fine, here you go whatever' not a manly explosion of punching rage and energy. It reads as triumphant in the manga because you expect it to be and the text is big, which is usually a marker of shouting. It turns out that the serious punch is actually sort of sad because he was still holding back. Maybe that's a change and maybe you like the manga version better, but this one is equally as valid and actually fits better thematically, imo. Yeah one of the things that the anime sort of emphasized with the entire fight that I couldn't quite get in the manga was how loving depressed Saitama is with the fight. The strongest guy he's ever fought so far and its still not even a fraction of his own power. Everything from him running backwards to each of the punches he threw had absolutely no heart or interest in them and sort of shows where the series might end up in. With Saitama realizing that he got into fighting monsters because of that rush he had at the start but that now there is no fun in it and he'd rather just spend time with Genos and co. Seriously Saitama looked he was having a whole lot more fun with Geno's sparing session than he did with either Seaking or Boros and I'm assuming thats the point.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 19:59 |