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I find it hard to reread any book even if I loved it. It feels like there's too much else to read to spend time rereading
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Mar 8, 2016 05:59
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^^ lol Heath posted:I'm reading Pynchon's Against the Day and so far I already like it way better than Vineland or Bleeding Edge, which are the last two I read. I feel like he writes two different sorts of novels, ones more like V., Gravity's Rainbow, AtD and then more "casual" ones like Bleeding Edge and Inherent Vice that are fun but not as engaging to me. I just reread this one, I look forward to the day when somebody puts out some giant reading companion like Weisenburger did for GR because whoo, that book makes GR look straightforward. On the flip side, I think it features his most beautiful prose, and some of his most heartbreaking characters (GR, for as great as it is - and it's probably my favorite novel - really isn't much for characters-as-human-beings). Now I'm rereading Mason & Dixon, naturally. Criminal Minded fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Mar 8, 2016 08:43
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Heath posted:I find it hard to reread any book even if I loved it. It feels like there's too much else to read to spend time rereading I feel the same way. Even though my wife and son are constant re-readers I'd rather pick up a new book. There are exceptions but it's generally something like Catcher in the Rye or The Great Gatsby that I read when I was young and didn't like and know that I was probably just wrong about.
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Mar 8, 2016 13:17
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Heath posted:I find it hard to reread any book even if I loved it. It feels like there's too much else to read to spend time rereading I've been a Bad Reader for a couple of years now though so I'm making an effort to read more this year. If I clear more of my shelf I'd like to find time to read a few books I used to love and think about how terrible they are.
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Mar 8, 2016 13:22
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Heath posted:I find it hard to reread any book even if I loved it. It feels like there's too much else to read to spend time rereading I have even worse problem. I have really lovely memory (probably because I'm 16 and depressed) so I can't brag with cool quotations or even details of stuff I've read unless I read it twice AND I mostly don't read things twice. As a result I spend hundreds of hoiurs reading stuff I'll forget. gently caress literature actually
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Mar 8, 2016 14:48
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mallamp posted:I have even worse problem. I have really lovely memory (probably because I'm 16 and depressed) so I can't brag with cool quotations or even details of stuff I've read unless I read it twice AND I mostly don't read things twice. As a result I spend hundreds of hoiurs reading stuff I'll forget. gently caress literature actually there's also the misogyny thing
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Mar 8, 2016 22:09
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mallamp posted:I'm 16 How many times have you read Das Kapital, and do the other kids at school make fun of you?
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Mar 9, 2016 00:56
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mallamp posted:I have even worse problem. I have really lovely memory (probably because I'm 16 and depressed) so I can't brag with cool quotations or even details of stuff I've read unless I read it twice AND I mostly don't read things twice. As a result I spend hundreds of hoiurs reading stuff I'll forget. gently caress literature actually I can never remember quotes from books so I tend to take photos of them with my phone as I read. Basically what I'm saying is you would be justified if you killed me, a millennial.
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Mar 9, 2016 01:20
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Criminal Minded posted:^^ lol M&D will be my next one. GR and maybe Pale Fire are the only books I would consider rereading because they seem like the kind of book you almost have to run through twice.
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Mar 9, 2016 01:35
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Heath posted:I can never remember quotes from books so I tend to take photos of them with my phone as I read. Basically what I'm saying is you would be justified if you killed me, a millennial. I do this, and then send the photos to friends, to share with them the joy of reading.
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Mar 9, 2016 02:13
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Heath posted:I can never remember quotes from books so I tend to take photos of them with my phone as I read. Basically what I'm saying is you would be justified if you killed me, a millennial.
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Mar 9, 2016 02:18
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Nakar posted:Have you considered the use of bookmarks, pencils, highlighters, or ebook notes? Because any of those things would probably be better than taking photos of a book. Marking books is a sin. And so are ebooks. I mostly send parts I like to friends.
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Mar 9, 2016 02:20
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if there is a part of a book i want to remember i just repeat it, aloud, gradually increasing in volume but decreasing in phrase frequency until i go from whispering as fast possible to shouting at full volume at seemingly random intervals.
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Mar 9, 2016 02:22
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Tree Goat posted:if there is a part of a book i want to remember i just repeat it, aloud, gradually increasing in volume but decreasing in phrase frequency until i go from whispering as fast possible to shouting at full volume at seemingly random intervals. I'm told this is the best way to read Finnegans Wake.
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Mar 9, 2016 02:30
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Marking books is cool and good
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Mar 9, 2016 02:49
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End Of Worlds posted:there's also the misogyny thing Trust me, I'm working on it
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Mar 9, 2016 09:46
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I have way too many unread books on the shelves to reread anything. I struggle to read faster than I buy anyway, never mind reading stuff that I've already read before.
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Mar 9, 2016 10:09
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Writing in books owns but I keep a little moleskin notebook that I record favourite quotes in for later access
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Mar 9, 2016 11:51
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Heath posted:Marking books is a sin. Only if the book isn't your own. If it is your own, you may mark it in any and every way imaginable ; I give you my imprimatur as a librarian. ☩
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Mar 9, 2016 14:07
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You shouldn't mark books but you should make sure the spine is creased when you are done so that everyone knows you have read it when they are looking at your bookshelf and know that you are a master reader.
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Mar 9, 2016 14:25
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I feel weird about marking my own books personally. I use post-it notes. It's kind of fun getting a used book or a library book that has passages underlined though to see what other people marked. I like seeing what they found significant. Though maybe one of these times someone will have underlined parts in a weird sex scene and I'll just have to wonder.
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Mar 9, 2016 14:40
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Going back over old annotations is fun. It's a very medieval way of reading – glosses added to glosses. Conversations happening on the page. I get very romantic about annotations and marginalia. Sometimes I read my own old annotations, and it's like having a literary chat with yourself. e: incidentally this is why print is the devil and the adaptability of manuscript production while expensive would make for some loving cool avant-garde literature
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Mar 9, 2016 15:36
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J_RBG posted:Going back over old annotations is fun. It's a very medieval way of reading – glosses added to glosses. Conversations happening on the page. I get very romantic about annotations and marginalia. Sometimes I read my own old annotations, and it's like having a literary chat with yourself. But monks are smart guys and I'm a retard
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Mar 9, 2016 15:42
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I tried to start writing in books after a time where I was reading a lot about Fermat;s last theorem and I thought marginalia were cool but I was very half hearted and only wrote obvious things in pencil then looked over them a week later and rubbed them all out.
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Mar 9, 2016 16:28
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Caustic Chimera posted:It's kind of fun getting a used book or a library book that has passages underlined though to see what other people marked. I like seeing what they found significant.
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Mar 9, 2016 16:56
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I bought a copy of Stoner by John Williams a few weeks ago which had some minor marginalia in the first 50 pages. According to the notes they made, the writer gave up purely because they didn't understand certain parts. They even boast on several pages about how widely read they are, but are still completely unable to grasp what Williams means when he describes Stoner as being changed by literature.
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Mar 9, 2016 17:10
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I don't feel the need to write in my books
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Mar 9, 2016 17:39
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When I finish a book I pee on it a little so everyone knows its mine
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Mar 9, 2016 17:42
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Writing in books is pretentious
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Mar 9, 2016 17:49
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blue squares posted:Writing in books is pretentious Yeah it's also neoliberal and Dunning-Kruger Effect.
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Mar 9, 2016 17:57
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blue squares posted:Writing in books is pretentious Gorn Myson posted:I bought a copy of Stoner by John Williams a few weeks ago which had some minor marginalia in the first 50 pages. According to the notes they made, the writer gave up purely because they didn't understand certain parts. They even boast on several pages about how widely read they are, but are still completely unable to grasp what Williams means when he describes Stoner as being changed by literature.
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Mar 9, 2016 17:59
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Nakar posted:Who boasts about how widely-read they are in marginalia written to themselves? Do I need to remind myself that I've read things while reading other things? Were they trying to compare the book to other books they'd claimed to read, or were they just bragging in the margins for some reason? Someone who has no friends, Facebook, blog or goodreads, but wants tomake reading social I guess I admit to sometimes reading sf not because I particularly like it, but because in sf world you are always feelconnected when you go online and see hundreds of oither nerds discussing the book you just read. When I read contemporary postmodern novel I have exactly one friend I can talk about it with, and online there are couple of pretentious reviews on a good day
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Mar 9, 2016 18:11
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CestMoi posted:Yeah it's also neoliberal and Dunning-Kruger Effect. totes
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Mar 9, 2016 18:47
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I loving hate when people write in books because if I try to go back through the book and read it myself my attention gets inordinately drawn to the things they highlighted when usually the things people choose to highlight are trivial parts of the text or circling a single word and writing a bunch of question marks next to it. I can't say I've found any writing in a book that was insightful enough for me to have appreciated it being there more than I was annoyed by it. Plus most of the time when I do find a book with writing the notes mysteriously cease about 40 pages in
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Mar 9, 2016 19:27
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I like reading other people's notes, sometimes it's insightful. My copy of To the Lighthouse is full of paragraphs boxed out and "SYMBOLISM ?" written next to it.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:38
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My copy of Streetcar named desire has the attempts of a previous owner to underline all the sexy metaphors, but they missed Blanche's fictional fiance having an oil well gushing into her purse. And heavy-smokers are worse to their books than the underliners.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:40
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Nakar posted:Kindle has some sort of feature where it underlines passages that were highlighted by a significant number of other readers and the answer is usually "Bafflingly random poo poo." I'm sure it doesn't help that you don't get their notes about it, so you have no idea why they highlighted it. If my Kindle is any guide, about ninety percent of my highlighting is purely accidental and takes place inside a pocket.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:43
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WAY TO GO WAMPA!! posted:I like reading other people's notes, sometimes it's insightful.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:43
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Reading should be like nature hike rules, take only memories, leave only greasy thumbprints and stains from rice falling out of your Qdoba burrito
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Mar 9, 2016 20:08
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marginalia and commonplace books are some of the most fascinating and intimate artifacts great authors leave behind. thinking of books as sacred and immutable texts is to alienate yourself from the joys of both writing and reading. so i agree with the consensus that goons should not make them, so we do not burden future generations with "what if the two main characters were vampires, and kissed each other?" and "proust, so far, is entirely consistent with the wh40k universe."
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