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You can't go wrong with a reread. Lots of stuff to pick up the second time around when you don't have to worry about how drat confusing everything seems to be.
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M_Gargantua posted:So I started thinking of this series again the other day. And the thought just keeps growing because the whole thing is just this blur in my memory. It doesn't help that I listened to the last 3 as audiobooks after reading the rest. I feel like theres a lot I missed in retrospect.
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 14:58 |
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Chapter One of Midnight Tides reminds me of reading the start of Gardens for the first time. I've been thrown into an entirely new setting with mostly new characters, with only little snippets of information from earlier to go on. Interesting start, though. I'm bearing in mind the warning Paran got about the Emperor of the Edur, but other than that, I don't know where anything is going. Look forward to finding out though.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 10:51 |
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cptn_dr posted:Chapter One of Midnight Tides reminds me of reading the start of Gardens for the first time. I've been thrown into an entirely new setting with mostly new characters, with only little snippets of information from earlier to go on.
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# ? Mar 4, 2016 09:09 |
So I did wind up starting Garden of the Moon again today. Already I know how much more i'm going to understand this run through. Like for example the stuff and characters referenced in the book of the fallen prechapter writings. The first one is by Felsin for example.
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# ? Mar 5, 2016 02:49 |
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I finished Memories of Ice a few days ago. I think my cry of KALLOR YOU MOTHERUCKER gently caress gently caress gently caress FUCKER gently caress sums up how I felt pretty accurately. I started tearing up on the bus reading the last chapter and epilogue. Dammit Steven Erikson, I love these books too much to stop, but you aren't making it easy. I'm nearly 200 pages into House of Chains now and while I'm not fed up with Karsa (holy poo poo Karsa is terrifying) I do miss the Bridgeburners. I'm really looking forward to seeing how everything comes together.
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# ? Mar 5, 2016 06:16 |
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Captain_Person posted:I finished Memories of Ice a few days ago. I think my cry of KALLOR YOU MOTHERUCKER gently caress gently caress gently caress FUCKER gently caress sums up how I felt pretty accurately. I started tearing up on the bus reading the last chapter and epilogue. Dammit Steven Erikson, I love these books too much to stop, but you aren't making it easy. Kallor and Karsa are the best characters in the series.
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# ? Mar 5, 2016 08:35 |
Kallor did nothing wrong No, seriously, he's a cool guy. I never really understood the love for Whiskeyjack - we keep being told how amazing he is but really don't see him doing anything that endearing.
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# ? Mar 5, 2016 10:53 |
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Whiskeyjack is basically [MoI]Ned Stark.
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acumen posted:Whiskeyjack is basically [MoI]Ned Stark. Spoilers for the series If Ned Stark comes back as Nadi Skeark and leads and army of ghosts against the white walkers in GoT then I guess I'll have to start reading GoT again.
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# ? Mar 6, 2016 00:54 |
I finally started Forge after letting it sit around for a while. I was kind of dreading starting out with yet another set of mostly new characters but I guess when reading them the names are easier to retain than with audiobooks, haven't needed to look at the wiki once so far. Only about 150 pages in, meeting all the high and low houses of Tiste society is nice and all but I can't wait to get back to whatever Draconus is up to and my beloved Jags. I have a feeling Haut being called captain is gonna lead to lots of parts where I can't stop grinning like a loving idiot while reading this thing on the train. Illinois Smith fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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The Fiends of Nightmaria posted:Beetle Praata’s horse collapsed under him just outside the embassy’s stables, making it easier to dismount. He stepped to one side to regard the fallen beast, and then gave one tentative kick to its lathered haunch, eliciting no response. noice
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# ? Mar 11, 2016 19:36 |
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Oh, it's already out? I thought it was for this summer or something like that...
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# ? Mar 13, 2016 00:35 |
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No thanks for the lack of a link. It's a preorder apparently. http://www.pspublishing.co.uk/the-fiends-of-nightmaria-slgned-slipcased-by-steven-erikson-3877-p.asp?utm_source=malazanempire Think I'll wait for a cheaper version from another publisher.
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# ? Mar 13, 2016 01:04 |
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Why does the cover look like bad 80's cheese horror?
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# ? Mar 13, 2016 07:42 |
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Khizan posted:Kallor and Karsa are the best characters in the series. Incorrect (as far as Kallor goes at least)
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# ? Mar 13, 2016 07:49 |
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Do you even curse?
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# ? Mar 13, 2016 08:46 |
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I dont remember Kallor. There was this mysterious warlord who was pretty badass though. Its too bad he was too mysterious for me to know who he was. He wore long grey chainmail, with a two handed sword sticking up above a shoulder. He was a mysterious warlord. Mysterious. Warlord. No name. Chain mail. Grey. Old. Warlord. Chainmail. Sword. Old. Mysterious warlord. Too bad we will never know who that was. Mysterious.
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Spermy Smurf posted:I dont remember Kallor. There was this mysterious warlord who was pretty badass though. Its too bad he was too mysterious for me to know who he was. Kallor is basically Adolf Hitler with a sword. The difference is, Hitler committed suicide and was real, Kallor is immortal and (thankfully) doesn't exist.
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# ? Mar 13, 2016 15:30 |
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Havent read the ICE books huh?
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# ? Mar 13, 2016 17:34 |
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
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# ? Mar 14, 2016 03:38 |
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Spermy Smurf posted:Havent read the ICE books huh? Why would anyone do that?
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Spermy Smurf posted:Havent read the ICE books huh? Ew gross, no.
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# ? Mar 14, 2016 15:47 |
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I just finished Assail last week and actually thought he did a pretty good job with it. Not with actually making the Forkrul Assail themselves interesting or seeming like an actual threat, but the continent of Assail was pretty interesting. Certainly way better than Jacuruku was portrayed. Shouldn't have been named Assail though, would have been a way better story without them entirely. That and if there were fewer ship convoys and parties moving overland so the story could be more focused. That's pretty much par for the course with ICE, though.
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# ? Mar 14, 2016 16:09 |
I'm at the part in Forge where Draconus and co. reach the Azathanai village and Olar Ethil shows up and HOLY gently caress HOW DID I NOT GET STARTED WITH THIS BOOK SOONER Also what's up with her claiming to be Burn in Crippled God (I think?), but claiming to have nursed her in this one? The last chapter I finished was Osserc's fight with his dad and escape from the village, not the biggest fan of his backstory so far but I have a feeling poo poo's about to pick up in that regard too. Please tell me we're actually gonna get to Jag City in this book. Also, timeline question, is this all before or after the Jag / Imass war and the Tellann ritual? Lord of Hate is Raest, right? Illinois Smith fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Mar 16, 2016 |
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 12:28 |
Illinois Smith posted:Also what's up with her claiming to be Burn in Crippled God (I think?), but claiming to have nursed her in this one? IIRC, the Lord of Hate is Gothos and this is all taking place before Tellan since that's a warren and they aren't around yet.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 12:57 |
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anilEhilated posted:She's lying. She does that a lot. I was actually under the impression that it was after the ritual. I could be mixing up books, but doesn't she go off defending her 'punishment' of the Imass to Draconus as being justified for stealing her fire/magic/Warren or whatever? She is lying about all the other stuff (although given that don't we meet Burn as an old priestess or woman or spirit or something? it's possible she predates her and Burn wasn't always Burn as we see her in the Malazan present.). Habibi fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Mar 16, 2016 |
# ? Mar 16, 2016 21:28 |
It's entirely possible, I read Forge only once and won't reread until Fall hits the shelves.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 21:39 |
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llinois Smith, Forge is before the ritual and the war. You might want to avoid reading the spoilers as more is revealed during the book.Habibi posted:I was actually under the impression that it was after the ritual. I could be mixing up books, but doesn't she go off defending her 'punishment' of the Imass to Draconus as being justified for stealing her fire/magic/Warren or whatever? Yeah, Burn was the most powerful Dog-Runner witch and she is sleeping in a temple underground. As she's slept she's become wooden and started putting out roots. I'm pretty sure there's also references in the book to Jaghut being naughty and dominating Dog-Runners, sowing the seeds of the future war.
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Tommofork posted:llinois Smith, Forge is before the ritual and the war. You might want to avoid reading the spoilers as more is revealed during the book. I'm still feeling confident that the Malazan world with "Burn's Sleep" is a dream realm like the Refugium that Udinaas lived in. Time and space are different in those worlds, so millennia could pass to the Malazans, with much less time for the Tiste and Azathanai. And all of the warren worlds that are connected in FoD could still be connected, but not without magic from the dream world. Obviously, it would be Burn's dream, so when a magic hammer is supposed to be able to wake her and end the world, that would be what literally happens.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 23:22 |
Infinite Karma posted:I'm still feeling confident that the Malazan world with "Burn's Sleep" is a dream realm like the Refugium that Udinaas lived in. Time and space are different in those worlds, so millennia could pass to the Malazans, with much less time for the Tiste and Azathanai. And all of the warren worlds that are connected in FoD could still be connected, but not without magic from the dream world. Obviously, it would be Burn's dream, so when a magic hammer is supposed to be able to wake her and end the world, that would be what literally happens.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 23:32 |
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anilEhilated posted:I believe that is all but explicitely stated in MoI, yeah. Dream logic is also a way of handwaving time inconsistencies.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 01:14 |
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Infinite Karma posted:It is? I sure didn't connect those dots in MoI. There's a lot of parallels between Mhybe's constant slumber+dream world and Burn's sleep, plus Burn in general gets mentioned a lot in MoI and how her waking up will basically destroy the world. I didn't fully connect the two plotlines together until fairly late in the series though so you're not alone!
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 10:15 |
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I'm curious, how many of you found out about the Malazan series through this thread? Because it definitely seems like ground zero for a lot of people. In my case, however, I came across it by pure chance. I was visiting my dad--poo poo I think I must have still been highschool--and he'd bought me and my brother a bunch of cheap, secondhand paperbacks from work. Most of them were pretty trashy and forgettable and I started reading Gardens of the Moon because I was in the mood for some doorstopper fantasy tat. I remember showing it to my brother and laughing at how generic the cover art (Tor's lightning sword one) looked, though the synopsis sounded cool enough. I thought the burning of the Mouse was pretty interesting, and was mostly confused by Sorry's possession. Then I read the Siege of Pale. Edit: Man, Jesus, I've just now realized that my dad's been responsible for introducing to many of my absolute favourite writers. Erikson, Banks, I'm pretty sure Mieville. I should really call him... Mordja fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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A friend of mine introduced me to the series. I started it but quit after a few chapters because it just didn't seem worth reading. I picked it up again a year or two later and burned through the whole series.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 17:54 |
I grabbed GotM more or less at random in a library. Fantasy wasn't the same since; I think it rather spoiled me.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 18:05 |
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I was introduced at a book store by a random grog employee. Best book recommendation.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:11 |
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I found it thanks to this thread! Was looking for an epic fantasy series and I'd heard bad things about the Wheel of Time, saw the thread and liked the description enough to give it a shot. Picked up Gardens and gave up about 100 pages in mostly due to apathy, six months later I decided I'd buckle down and actually finish this book that I got, finally got about 300 pages in and couldn't put the book down.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:17 |
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This series and Joe Abercrombie's work has set an unfair expectation for all other fantasy series. I haven't found anything I felt was really great since.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:22 |
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anilEhilated posted:I grabbed GotM more or less at random in a library. Fantasy wasn't the same since; I think it rather spoiled me. Mega same e: All you guys now are lucky that you didn't have to wait 15 months between books for half a decade. Lol at grrm fans.
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