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Godzilla King of the Monsters! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVDtmouV9kM King Kong Godzilla Super Friends coming up! https://twitter.com/kongskullisland/status/885166877147660288 Mr. Funny Pants posted:Best I could do with all of them. If you see [...] it's because I couldn't make it out or it isn't visible at all. Godzillza Anime Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuW6HURwKWg New Godzilla Anime coming up Seemlar posted:The plot on this one is a doozy. It's about humanity having fled the Earth in ark ships after losing a 50 year war against Kaiju, now returning to try and retake a world that's been ruled by Godzilla for 20,000 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKHXvYZQN4Y --------------------------------- http://shin-godzilla.jp/ When I first saw this design, I wasn't sure what to think. That all changed today when I saw the newish trailer for this movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysRIwlEBjuw Looks vicious, looks damaged, and most of all, it looks like they're really promoting being able to see the monster more than just hiding him in the shadows like Godzilla (2014). Directors: Hideaki Anno, Shinji Higuchi Production company: Toho Co., Ltd. Music composed by: Shiro Sagisu Written by: Hideaki Anno Starring: Hiroki Hasegawa Yutaka Takenouchi Satomi Ishihara I was ultimately disappointed by the US movie because of the many reasons others have articulated since the movie came out. As more information gets released, I'll be sure to keep this thread up. That being said, the fact that this is written by Anno gets me excited and a little apprehensive. I doubt we'll get much Godzilla introspection but you can expect some excellent visuals and controversy over themes presented by this film. I guess this might be why we haven't seen Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0 yet. He's been busy getting his Kaiju game on! That and this little tidbit from the end of the Wiki article: In late March 2016, it was announced that Toho's Godzilla and Anno's Evangelion intellectual properties will form a "maximum collaboration" for merchandise in April 2016.[25] Stolen from the Kaiju Thread: Godzilla over the years: Edit: New Toho commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCxeP2HLrcg Shadowhand00 fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jun 3, 2019 |
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This looks amazing and I cannot wait. But I highly disagree with your opinion of Godzilla 14. Edwards did a superb job of building up suspense and the slow burn paid off. That Godzilla was a force of nature and I think even more screen time would have cheapened it. At least in his first movie. We are probably going to get more action if the rumors of Mothra, Rodan and King Ghidorah are in the next.
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# ? Apr 13, 2016 22:53 |
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looks bad to me OP
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# ? Apr 13, 2016 22:54 |
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Also, that loving tail is like 3 times as long as before.
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# ? Apr 13, 2016 23:25 |
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Stupid question but someone had a chart or something in the previous Godzilla thread comparing the heights of various versions of Godzilla. How big is this one supposed to be? In the wide shot he looks enormous, towering over buildings and stuff. Is that typical? I thought the 2014 one was supposed to be bigger what they usually do with the character. Intense trailer, I can't wait. The only thing that worries me is about the effects is how smoothly they can have him moving if they're going to roll with him being in broad daylight/etc. regularly. I LOOOOOOVE the molten skin thing, it's awesome looking. I loved Godzilla 2014 for a lot of reasons that also were already talked about at length when it came out, this looks rad as hell too.
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# ? Apr 13, 2016 23:45 |
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I disagree with your feelings on Godzilla 2014 because of the many reasons others have articulated since the criticisms came out.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 00:06 |
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no film could survive Godzilla 2014's protagonist.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 00:10 |
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EVERY SINGLE MISSILE HIT THE TARGET!
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 00:56 |
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Martman posted:I disagree with your feelings on Godzilla 2014 because of the many reasons others have articulated since the criticisms came out. Bad news: this looks like Godzilla 2014.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 01:08 |
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The red glow looks kind of like Godzilla vs Destroyah. I wonder if they'll re-use "Godzilla is melting down and will contaminate everything"? Although that would make shooting all the guns while he's in the middle of a city a little silly.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 01:29 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:no film could survive Godzilla 2014's protagonist. I dunno Godzilla does pretty good in movies usually.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 01:38 |
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why is godzilla just standing about not doing anything
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 01:39 |
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hemale in pain posted:why is godzilla just standing about not doing anything He doesn't seem very agile at all.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 01:40 |
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Basebf555 posted:He doesn't seem very agile at all. Yeah where are the backflips and cartwheels. This movie is going to loving own. The pic of Godzilla in the op is so good.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 01:44 |
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Shiro Sagisu owns and those tiny forearms/hands really creep me out, especially how they're almost always grasping at air. I'm looking forward to it just as much as 2014s because more Godzilla is always better.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 02:05 |
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Do not show your Godzilla-crazed five year old the trailer to a new Godzilla movie that neither he nor his dad even knew was coming right before bedtime. "Oh my god!" "Daddy, how he get so gigantic?" "What did they do to him?" "I think he bigger than 2014 Godzilla!" The most critical issue of course: "I want to see his [new] atomic breath."
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 02:14 |
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Why does this earthquake movie constantly cut to static images of a rubber dinosaur?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 02:31 |
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wdarkk posted:The red glow looks kind of like Godzilla vs Destroyah. I wonder if they'll re-use "Godzilla is melting down and will contaminate everything"? Although that would make shooting all the guns while he's in the middle of a city a little silly. I know nothing about either these directors (besides that one cool short) or the Godzilla franchise, so take this with a grain of salt. There is one shot of disaster footage in the trailer that really reminded me of post-2011 tsunami pictures. Godzilla being a walking Fukushima seems sort of an obvious route to go at this point in time. The military being really prepared but ultimately useless could be an Abe criticism, or just following Godzilla conventions.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 02:36 |
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Godzilla 2014 the first two times I watched it. I was the biggest fan as a kid and wasn't surprised by the fact that Godzilla was a hero or anything. I think my third viewing soured things a bit when I started letting Aaron Taylor Johnson's plot get to me and the criticisms of the movie itself started becoming apparent. I still like the movie and hope for more US Godzilla movies. In the end, I just didn't absolutely adore the movie as I thought I could have. Martman posted:I disagree with your feelings on Godzilla 2014 because of the many reasons others have articulated since the criticisms came out. I'll revisit and look at the reasons others have articulated about the criticisms. Its a valid point and I haven't really thought about the movie since I just saw this trailer this afternoon.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 02:55 |
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Shadowhand00 posted:Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Godzilla 2014 the first two times I watched it. I was the biggest fan as a kid and wasn't surprised by the fact that Godzilla was a hero or anything. You shouldn't adore movies, you should criticize them. Movies aren't supposed to be perfect, they're art. Every movie you see is a bunch of videos some people took of other people and stuff. Your parents did that to you when you were a child, maybe. Thinking of movies as products to be consumed is the most terrible, horrible thing you can do to them.
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That tail is just ridiculousSHISHKABOB posted:Yeah where are the backflips and cartwheels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuEa6Hum0b4
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Atrocious Joe posted:I know nothing about either these directors (besides that one cool short) or the Godzilla franchise, so take this with a grain of salt. There is one shot of disaster footage in the trailer that really reminded me of post-2011 tsunami pictures. Godzilla being a walking Fukushima seems sort of an obvious route to go at this point in time. The military being really prepared but ultimately useless could be an Abe criticism, or just following Godzilla conventions. Well those are definitely things you could make a Godzilla movie about. Especially the Abe thing. How many Godzilla movies aren't anti-military or anti-militarist? I guess you could say Against Mechagodzilla and Final Wars (and maybe Tokyo SOS, not sure).
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 04:20 |
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Re: Godzilla 2014, eh, the human plot was dumb dumb dumb, but the monster plot was pretty great. I'd place it firmly in the middle of the pack as a perfectly average film. There are some in the series with less monster time. meanwhile, wow has the look of Godzilla in the new one grown on me. The poster gives him googly eye and that bugs me, but the rotting flesh is pretty great. Are we dealing with the zombie corpse of the first Godzilla? Also am I remembering early press correctly and the costume is, for the first time, a mixture of suitmation and CGI?
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Choco1980 posted:Re: Godzilla 2014, eh, the human plot was dumb dumb dumb, but the monster plot was pretty great. They are connected and cannot be separated like you are trying to do.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 04:36 |
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The human plot sucks really really hard and Taylor is a trainwreck in that movie but Godzilla himself owns
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Vintersorg posted:This looks amazing and I cannot wait. But I highly disagree with your opinion of Godzilla 14. Edwards did a superb job of building up suspense and the slow burn paid off. That Godzilla was a force of nature and I think even more screen time would have cheapened it. At least in his first movie. Godzilla is not a force of nature Godamnit! he is very explicitly a manmade force! the 2014 movie isn't a godzilla movie (it's a fine film but not a godzilla movie) it's a natural disaster flick where a lizard shaped hurricane comes in and kills some monsters.
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Elfgames posted:Godzilla is not a force of nature Godamnit! he is very explicitly a manmade force! the 2014 movie isn't a godzilla movie (it's a fine film but not a godzilla movie) it's a natural disaster flick where a lizard shaped hurricane comes in and kills some monsters. ...so what you're telling us is that you've never seen the Heisei series. Gotcha.
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Choco1980 posted:...so what you're telling us is that you've never seen the Heisei series. Gotcha. show me the japanese film where godzilla is an "apex predator" instead of the result of a nuclear attack or weapon
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 05:37 |
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Elfgames posted:show me the japanese film where godzilla is an "apex predator" instead of the result of a nuclear attack or weapon How about where he's the accumulated ghosts of the WW2 war dead?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 05:38 |
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We live in the Anthropocene now, it's becoming increasingly difficult to view nature as separate from mankind. Godzilla 2014 tends to follow the logic of mankind can influence/wake up the monsters but not necessarily control them right? That sort of reflects our interactions with the global environment right now. We can heat up the planet, but we don't really want too and find it hard to stop. There's a lot of fair criticisms of Godzilla 2014 but the force of nature argument doesn't seem like one.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 05:41 |
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wdarkk posted:How about where he's the accumulated ghosts of the WW2 war dead? you mean the one where the souls of the dead turn the weapon that killed them onto the nation that forgot them?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 05:46 |
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This trailer fucken rules.Elfgames posted:show me the japanese film where godzilla is an "apex predator" instead of the result of a nuclear attack or weapon Gojira 1984. Also: Gojira 1954.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:This trailer fucken rules. In Tokyo, Okamura realizes by looking at pictures that the monster he saw was a new Godzilla. Maki writes an article about the account, but the news of Godzilla's return is kept secret and his article is withheld. Maki visits Professor Hayashida, whose parents were lost in the 1954 Godzilla attack. Hayashida describes Godzilla as a living, invincible nuclear weapon able to cause mass destruction. At Hayashida's laboratory, Maki meets Okamura's sister, Naoko, and informs her that her brother is alive and at the police hospital. A Soviet submarine is destroyed in the Pacific. The Soviets believe the attack was perpetrated by the Americans, and a diplomatic crisis ensues, which threatens to escalate into nuclear war. wrong and the 1954 one is so wrong that i can't wait to here your rebuttal
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Elfgames posted:show me the japanese film where godzilla is an "apex predator" instead of the result of a nuclear attack or weapon In Gojira he was just a dinosaur that was woken up/pissed off because of the nuclear weapon testing, but he wasn't created by it. Short of Godzilla vs. King Ghidora giving Godzilla that origin story as a much smaller "Godzillasaurus" on an island somewhere that gets mutated to be huge I don't know of any other Japanese film where radiation is specifically the cause of his origin. The 1998 Matthew Broderick film is explicitly that though.
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Bob Quixote posted:In Gojira he was just a dinosaur that was woken up/pissed off because of the nuclear weapon testing, but he wasn't created by it. nuclear weapons were his origin, he was created by it. Godzilla's attack mirrors the same horrors the Japanese experienced near the end of World War II, with the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Producer Tomoyuki Tanaka stated that, "The theme of the film, from the beginning, was the terror of the bomb. Mankind had created the bomb, and now nature was going to take revenge on mankind."[11] Director Ishirō Honda filmed Godzilla's rampage on Tokyo with the mentality that the monster's onslaught was a parallel to, and a physical manifestation of, an Atom bomb attack. He stated, "If Godzilla had been a dinosaur or some other animal, he would have been killed by just one cannonball. But if he were equal to an atomic bomb, we wouldn't know what to do. So, I took the characteristics of an atomic bomb and applied them to Godzilla."[11] godzilla is an atomic bomb given flesh.
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Elfgames posted:In Tokyo, Okamura realizes by looking at pictures that the monster he saw was a new Godzilla. Maki writes an article about the account, but the news of Godzilla's return is kept secret and his article is withheld. Maki visits Professor Hayashida, whose parents were lost in the 1954 Godzilla attack. Hayashida describes Godzilla as a living, invincible nuclear weapon able to cause mass destruction. At Hayashida's laboratory, Maki meets Okamura's sister, Naoko, and informs her that her brother is alive and at the police hospital. The 1954 Godzilla is an apex predator that is woken up by a bomb. Metaphorically, the creature represents Serizawa's research into the Oxygen Destroyer. The 1984 Godzilla is an apex predator woken up by an undersea volcanic eruption. Metaphorically, the creature represents a generalized sense of malaise.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The 1954 Godzilla is an apex predator that is woken up by a bomb. Metaphorically, the creature represents Serizawa's research into the Oxygen Destroyer. the oxegen destroyer is a bigger bomb, of course they represent each other.
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Elfgames posted:the oxegen destroyer is a bigger bomb, of course they represent each other. The 'Oxygen Destroyer' is not a bomb, and the monster does not represent it. The monster in the film represents pure drive - in this case the scientific drive to pursue knowledge for its own sake, regardless of the consequences.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:You are basing these assertions on a mix of wikipedia articles and fantasies. the oxegen destroyer is basically a bomb and yeah the two are the same, A thing which becomes a weapon and must be destroyed
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Elfgames posted:the oxegen destroyer is basically a bomb However, in a more accurate sense, it isn't a bomb at all and you are unconcerned with whether what you are writing is true. The Godzilla of 1954 had been worshiped as a pagan demon-god for untold centuries before the existence of nuclear weapons.
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