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Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose

Hermetic posted:

I can confirm that there's nothing they should be doing except pursuing justice in this case of supreme importance.

yeah, I can see that. Party of small government and all.

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

This will go well



Yesssss I love right wing protests. They're just so pathetic, especially ones that involve multiple locations so churches across multiple states can't boost numbers by busing people in ala Kim Davis

smoke sumthin bitch
Dec 14, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

beatlegs posted:

Well the Senate is officially investigating Facebook over biased trending, which is one of the most important pressing issues of our time.

Facebook as a whole should be investegated. They are up there with apple as one of the most evil companies.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*

quote:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/10/technology/facebook-news-senate/

The Commerce Committee, led by Republican John Thune of South Dakota, asked CEO Mark Zuckerberg to respond to anonymous allegations that former contractors suppressed news about conservatives and links to right-leaning websites. The controversy, first published by Gizmodo, is now trending on Facebook.

In a letter on Tuesday, Thune demanded to know who is ultimately responsible for approving stories for the "trending" box on the Facebook home page; what steps Facebook has taken to investigate the claims of bias; and how Facebook keeps records of its editorial decisions.

"Please provide a list of all news stories removed from or injected into the Trending Topics section since January 2014," Thune's letter said.

A Facebook spokesman confirmed that "we have received Sen. Thune's request for more information about how Trending Topics works, and look forward to addressing his questions."

It remains to be seen just how forthcoming Facebook will be. In its role as a quasi-journalistic publisher of information, the company may shirk at the prospect of handing over information about its editorial processes.

:wtc:

Look out everyone, Trend-Gate is coming!!

This is it! The real scandal that will finally bring down the Democratic Party Clinton Pets.com Facebook!

Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 22:53 on May 11, 2016

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

well the house is run by the GOP now a days so they can afford to do poo poo like that.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

What the gently caress do they think a private company could possibly have done to warrant a Senate investigation

To be fair, "The Twitter People" should be in court for war crimes/crimes against humanity because Trump.

Also I hope the facebook thing leads to an amazing reversal of fortune deal sort like the IRS Scandal, any one remember that one?

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Popular Thug Drink posted:

it really isn't though. ditch your smartphone, delete your social media accounts, and after you detox realize that you can still live perfectly well without all that crap. internet addiction is a plague on society

He says on an internet forum he paid ten dollars to access.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Screaming Idiot posted:

He says on an internet forum he paid ten dollars to access.

Way past that, buddy.

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose
Holy cow, it's probably not important in the big picture, but apparently Ed Henry is suspended from Fox News for having an affair. I don't know why but I've disliked that guy from the first day I've seen him. I'm trying and failing to find sympathy for his smug loving face.

Guess he's the only reporter that doesn't get to ask Hillary about Bill this election.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rts-of-affairs/

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Kro-Bar posted:

To be honest I can't really think of anything else they could be doing instead.

Maybe debating and passing funding to combat Zika?

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Spun Dog posted:

Holy cow, it's probably not important in the big picture, but apparently Ed Henry is suspended from Fox News for having an affair. I don't know why but I've disliked that guy from the first day I've seen him. I'm trying and failing to find sympathy for his smug loving face.

Guess he's the only reporter that doesn't get to ask Hillary about Bill this election.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rts-of-affairs/

Bill O'Reilly kept his job after sexually harrassing an employee, so i figure they were looking for a reason to can Henry. FOX has no moral/ethical code, except for convenience.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Discendo Vox posted:

OK. Hi. I am an actual legitimate instructor at an actual legitimate university, and this is an actual legitimate problem, the tantrums of the right wing aside.

if your problem is with the consumerization of education your problem is with capitalism, not the left

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


smoke sumthin bitch posted:

Facebook as a whole should be investegated. They are up there with apple as one of the most evil companies.

Can you elaborate on this?

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Facebook is being investigated by the Senate :wtc:? Facebook should just respond that they are a private company and and can trend or not trend whatever the hell they please or be as biased or not as they feel like, basically gently caress off. Pretty rich coming from the party of small government and keeping out of the way of private industry. Of course that's only when it's convenient for them but still it's a little galling to see how quickly they throw their supposed principles under the bus just so they can throw an expensive temper tantrum at the taxpayer's expense.

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
I hope there's a trial so that we can hear multiple people call conservative outlets trash in tortured legalese

"We prefer to use outlets that have proper vetting and reliable sources" and other fun phrases

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Full Battle Rattle posted:

I hope there's a trial so that we can hear multiple people call conservative outlets trash in tortured legalese

"We prefer to use outlets that have proper vetting and reliable sources" and other fun phrases

I hope they don't and just say what they mean. "We'd tend to favor sources of information that use actual facts with links to who said what and with easy to find qualifications rather than simply calling someone a doctor only to investigate and find out they don't even have a degree- or worse, are speaking out of their own field of expertise. I'd much rather consult a nurse over a chiropractor if I'm having breathing issues, personally."

Just lay all the cards on the table about what it is that they're getting slammed for here.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Gov Pat McRory posted:

“I think there’s a time where the Republicans and the Democrats in this Congress need to revisit the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and revisit all this issue,”

PULL UP PAT PULL UPPPPPPPPPPP

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Hermetic posted:

I can confirm that there's nothing they should be doing except pursuing justice in this case of supreme importance.

:golfclap:

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Intel&Sebastian posted:

PULL UP PAT PULL UPPPPPPPPPPP

WHAT THE gently caress why would he think that's a smart or not insane thing to say

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Intel&Sebastian posted:

PULL UP PAT PULL UPPPPPPPPPPP

He will get exact zero flak about this from his supporters.

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
Re-segregation is gonna be a winner, I tell ya

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
And now that we've sunk ourselves trying to segregate trans, let's just crack open the 51 year-old chestnut of racial segregation! Clearly we win against the federal government if the DOJ head has to abide by separate but equal investigations, right?!

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Epic High Five posted:

WHAT THE gently caress why would he think that's a smart or not insane thing to say



I just can't believe he hasn't let go of that "Charlotte made us do it!" line. That whole line of thinking is pure Right Wing Media: It's factually false, it sounds false in summary, it doesn't pass the smell test, he talks about it like it's a magic spell that makes everything he's done OK, no ones taking the bait...but BY GOD he's going to wave it in front of every camera he can like a "HI MOM!" sign for Freep, like it's some rogue chunk of an alternate reality that he's promising to install in ours once he defeats the evil federal government.

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Intel&Sebastian posted:

PULL UP PAT PULL UPPPPPPPPPPP

stfu goddammit
seeing pay mccrory crash and burn is the silver lining on this mushroom cloud
im hoping he goes 0-2 in court and a blowout in the general
i dont understand why everybodys listing nc as leans hillary but drat i hope so and i hope mayor mcmoldymilk gets thrown out on his rear end

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

stfu goddammit
seeing pay mccrory crash and burn is the silver lining on this mushroom cloud
im hoping he goes 0-2 in court and a blowout in the general
i dont understand why everybodys listing nc as leans hillary but drat i hope so and i hope mayor mcmoldymilk gets thrown out on his rear end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLcR8CdoDLg

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Intel&Sebastian posted:

PULL UP PAT PULL UPPPPPPPPPPP

Pat, the green blob rushing towards you? It's the ground. It going to hurt.

Pixelboy
Sep 13, 2005

Now, I know what you're thinking...
Listening to our local knuckleheads on AM radio during drive in this morning.

3 ads for testosterone replacement therapy
2 ads for reverse mortgages
1 ad for a roofing company who's single distinguishing trait was they "screen employees for legal residency."
2 ads for estate planning companies

These people cannot die off fast enough.

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.

Pixelboy posted:

Listening to our local knuckleheads on AM radio during drive in this morning.

3 ads for testosterone replacement therapy
2 ads for reverse mortgages
1 ad for a roofing company who's single distinguishing trait was they "screen employees for legal residency."
2 ads for estate planning companies

These people cannot die off fast enough.

We're going to have a drastically different America in 20 years

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007



:lol:

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

RareAcumen posted:

I hope they don't and just say what they mean. "We'd tend to favor sources of information that use actual facts with links to who said what and with easy to find qualifications rather than simply calling someone a doctor only to investigate and find out they don't even have a degree- or worse, are speaking out of their own field of expertise. I'd much rather consult a nurse over a chiropractor if I'm having breathing issues, personally."

Just lay all the cards on the table about what it is that they're getting slammed for here.

Facts are biased. Conservativism can't look good if you look at it through the liberal lenses of truth or logic.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*

Intel&Sebastian posted:

quote:


Gov Pat McRory posted:
“I think there’s a time where the Republicans and the Democrats in this Congress need to revisit the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and revisit all this issue,”

PULL UP PAT PULL UPPPPPPPPPPP

Got a link for that? I'm searching but can't find anything.

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Mercury_Storm posted:

PULL UP PAT PULL UPPPPPPPPPPP

Got a link for that? I'm searching but can't find anything.

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/pat-mccrory-congress-should-revisit-the-1964-civil-rights-act-to-allow-segregated-bathrooms/

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Mercury_Storm posted:

:wtc:

Look out everyone, Trend-Gate is coming!!

This is it! The real scandal that will finally bring down the Democratic Party Clinton Pets.com Facebook!

less than a decade ago thune wrote a letter to the FCC bashing fairness doctrine

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I'm only just now realizing how wonderful his stance is after this.

I didn't want this! Charlotte made me! I have no interest in bathroom laws! But...yknow since we're here anyway maybe we could get rid of the civil rights act? Just a thought.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Popular Thug Drink posted:

less than a decade ago thune wrote a letter to the FCC bashing fairness doctrine

yeah but this time it's ~*~different~*~

Throwing Turtles
May 3, 2015

Radish posted:

What was the in universe explanation for how these supermen weren't murdered for being absolute shits to literally everyone? Did they have magical force field technology, the heroes were all martial arts masters like Daredevil, or the masses were too stupid to figure out how to wield primitive weapons or even understand they were being screwed?

They hid. They set up their little summer camp, then Galt went out and recruited them one at a time. As they left they torched all of their own poo poo and disappeared. After they were out of sight for a while they got jobs as short order cooks, and train conductors. They were perfect at all of these jobs. Train lady tries to hire one for her cafeteria and gets blown off.


Once they had everything set they hid in their little valley playing with model trains until the civil unrest died down and then they returned to assume their rightful place.

One thing that never gets mentions is that going Galt isn't just leaving to do your own thing. He systematically tore the whole thing down. There was a fan theory that the events in the Atlas Shrugged world were so terrible that the people banned all individuality to prevent it from happening again, leading up to Anthem.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
Christ, seems like the spiked punch bowl really gotten passed around wide today in conservaland. :sad:

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Radish posted:

What was the in universe explanation for how these supermen weren't murdered for being absolute shits to literally everyone? Did they have magical force field technology, the heroes were all martial arts masters like Daredevil, or the masses were too stupid to figure out how to wield primitive weapons or even understand they were being screwed?

It's pretty much this:

Geostomp posted:

I would assume that their innate superiority allowed them to easily thwart all attempts from their lessers. That or the lessers managed to realize that these people where so superior that they were instantly cowed once they realized their arrogance for expecting the ubermensch to lift a finger for them just because they paid for their services.

In very very brief: Ayn Rand believed that her philosophy could be derived from a set of self-evident first principles, and therefore it's the only philosophy that is both logically justified and objectively true, and anyone with a rational mind that accurately perceives reality will agree with it. Thus, the extent to which you're a good farmer (or accountant, or composer, or artist, or railroad tycoon) is the extent to which you agree with Ayn Rand, maybe not fully, maybe not even consciously. But when you do hear something Randian, you agree with it. So when one of the highly competent supermen protagonists acts like an arrogant selfish rear end in a top hat, anyone with any amount of competence at all will respect and admire them, if you have a sliver of ability it's the same thing that makes you have a sliver of respect and support for the train executive who threatens to leave you to die for expecting basic train service. Anyone who hates and resents the superman is also totally incompetent and ineffectual and can only quiver and wail about it. If I remember right there is one competent guy on the train and when she throws her fit he's like "I'll handle the rescue if you want Miss Taggart, I know you've got way more important ubermensch things to do than your job". Incidentally this is also why anyone Galt talks to immediately joins up: he stalks these various executives until he determines that they're among the elect supermen, because you just have to offer the gnosis to a superman and he'll immediately see the light and join up with the cult society of free-thinking individualists who all agree on everything all the time thanks to their superior reasoning ability.

You're probably about to ask a follow-up question: if the only competent people agree with Ayn Rand and the heroes that capitalism is best, then why do socialists control the world of Atlas Shrugged and how are they a threat at all? Ayn Rand's answer is actually, funny enough, a Catholic one: they're not a threat, evil has no actual power, evil is only the absence of the good and its only power lies in deceiving good into using its own power against itself: Ayn Rand calls this "the sanction of the victim" in the book. So the socialists have all the guns and tanks, but only because Rearden makes the steel for them. The socialists control America but only because Dagny runs the trains for them. The villains know this, but the heroes don't. There are tons of examples in the book, like a rehash of Fountainheads stdh.txt courtroom scene where Rearden does a bunch of sovcit "I don't consent to this trial, I don't recognize the legitimacy of your courts" and instead of jailing him for contempt, the judges get flustered because he's not cooperating and so they let him off on his (anti-trust? I don't remember) violations with a slap on the wrist. See they know they can't jail him when they need him to make more steel. Thus the theme of the book: if the supermen who hold up the world shrug it off and hide in their valley, then all the normal people die in an orgy of anarchy, chaos, and destruction, so be nice to the rich. And if you, dear teenage reader, agree then that's proof you're a superman and anyone who doesn't agree with us reveals their own inner untermensch.

And yes it does let all the tension out of the climax like a wet fart when you have villains that try as hard as they can not to kill the heroes because the villains can't live without them.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Pixelboy posted:

Listening to our local knuckleheads on AM radio during drive in this morning.

3 ads for testosterone replacement therapy
2 ads for reverse mortgages
1 ad for a roofing company who's single distinguishing trait was they "screen employees for legal residency."
2 ads for estate planning companies

These people cannot die off fast enough.

What, no ads for gold as best investment against the apocalypse?

"You give me your U.S. $ that is accepted as legitimate currency in every country in the world and I'll give you this lump of metal, or a certificate for a lump of metal if you're dumb enough to accept it."

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bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
All of the characters have the depth of a cardboard cutout and character development is a bad thing that happens to other authors.

There's also an unbelievably lovely monologue in the book. I do not use that word as hyperbole, I truly do not understand how someone can write such a terrible monologue. Depending on the size of print and the book it can range from like 40-60 pages of one character just spewing out rhetorical bullshit completely uninterrupted. Completely. Nobody else says anything, ever, there are no other actions taking place; completely uninterrupted. Not even a 'he said'. It's paragraph after paragraph, page after page of one of these captains of industry vomiting words at the reader.

And that's just the criticism you can level at the monologue from a technical writing perspective! If you ever want to torture your brain cells until they beg for the sweet release of death you can try to understand the content of that stream of verbal diarrhea. "X is correct, and since X is correct then Y is correct. This makes anyone that agrees with me obviously the superior person. Now let me use a different word to say that X is correct again to prove that Y is also correct." Repeat that exact same loving thing for like four or five PAGES. Eventually things will meander around having a point or purpose, only to veer off into another four or five pages of "And now that Y is correct, Z is also correct so worship me."

I've read some really terrible and terribly written poo poo in my life and powered through it, but I was defeated by that monolith.

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