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Cobalt60
Jun 1, 2006
Yeah there are a few different shapes of typical surface / bearing scrapers. I only see those in the metalworking / machinist world, so I'm not too familiar.

Basically, on an old machined surface (precision ways, for example), you'll often see these cool scrape marks, which are either from a flattening process or added by hand after a surface is machined, so it can hold a bit of oil / grease between two perfectly flat planes.

Or something...

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His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
yeah scraping cast iron, or babbit bearings. I know a guy who does stuff like that still. Currently restoring a german rip saw he found in the woods, made in 1887 and cast new babbit bearings which he then scraped for best fit, and converted it to motor instead of line powered. Going to use it commercially and is fitting it with homemade but modern standard features.

Space Wizard
Aug 31, 2012
So he's pretty much just building a loving saw from scratch then.

awesome.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Gonna steal some pics from a swedish place he posts at


Starting to prepping for casting


Gotta make a new scraper tool though








He has a tendency to overbuild things




Everything is made from scrap from the junkyard, shaped & welded, even the lumber is stuff he cut down himself and then had milled at a sawmill. Being unemployed and starting a new company on zero budget, well he's got skills and labor is free when you're unemployed. The motor (3-ph 7-5kW) was also taken from the junk yard for 50 bucks.

Space Wizard
Aug 31, 2012
Owns.

Free Market Mambo
Jul 26, 2010

by Lowtax
I'll be keeping an eye on local news stories for "Man builds death machine, wins our heart".

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...
scientists make transparent wood

Guitarchitect
Nov 8, 2003


I thought this was really cool until I read "The next step was to pour epoxy over the block, which made it four to six times stronger."

Not to mention the amount of chemicals needed. If you have to boil your wood in "a bath of water, sodium hydroxide and other chemicals for about two hours" and then epoxy it to make it usable... you might be letting the tail wag the dog.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Guitarchitect posted:

I thought this was really cool until I read "The next step was to pour epoxy over the block, which made it four to six times stronger."

Not to mention the amount of chemicals needed. If you have to boil your wood in "a bath of water, sodium hydroxide and other chemicals for about two hours" and then epoxy it to make it usable... you might be letting the tail wag the dog.

Yeah I wonder what the strength properties of wood boiled in lye for 2 hours are like. Encasing it in epoxy does feel like cheating, but I wonder how workable it is before that (or if it is just a pulpy mass)

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

Hubis posted:

Yeah I wonder what the strength properties of wood boiled in lye for 2 hours are like. Encasing it in epoxy does feel like cheating, but I wonder how workable it is before that (or if it is just a pulpy mass)

Isn't ligin what makes wood strong? Seems like they could just do this process with and plant to leave a bunch of cells behind. What's the advantage of this over just making a block of epoxy I wonder.

Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?

Squibbles posted:

Isn't ligin what makes wood strong? Seems like they could just do this process with and plant to leave a bunch of cells behind. What's the advantage of this over just making a block of epoxy I wonder.

This way you get a bunch of nerds on the internet talking about it.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Peter Brown is obviously behind this.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Squibbles posted:

Isn't ligin what makes wood strong? Seems like they could just do this process with and plant to leave a bunch of cells behind. What's the advantage of this over just making a block of epoxy I wonder.

Well from the sound of it you are still left with the remains of the wood fibers, so I guess it's kind of like an organic fiberglass?

But yeah like many research projects it sounds more like a "just to see if we can" type affair

Frohike999
Oct 23, 2003
I thought some of you might be interested in this. My grandfather passed away recently and my parents had been going through the estate getting it ready for auction. They had been looking for woodworking tools while doing it and brought the following:



There is a shoulder plane at the bottom and a table leaf one in the middle. The one on the right has this on the front:



My grandfather had worked for a time in Louisville at Belknap, so it was pretty neat seeing this. All of it is in pretty decent shape.

I really have no idea what the small black piece is in the middle of the planes. It's labeled Stanley, and the point on it screws in and is labeled No. 4. Does anyone know what this is called?

Cpt.Wacky
Apr 17, 2005

Frohike999 posted:

I really have no idea what the small black piece is in the middle of the planes. It's labeled Stanley, and the point on it screws in and is labeled No. 4. Does anyone know what this is called?



Looks like one of a pair of trammel points.

Frohike999
Oct 23, 2003

Cpt.Wacky posted:

Looks like one of a pair of trammel points.

Ah yep that must be it, I had an identical one with it. Thanks!

swampface
Apr 30, 2005

Soiled Meat
Accidentally knocked a bit of the corner off of the cheap rear end medicine cabinet in our bathroom, so I made a new one.





I need to file down the screws on the hinges a bit and add a felt pad to the magnet catch, but overall it turned out real nice.

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.
So I got some outdoor adirondack chairs to give to my wife for our anniversary, and they are unfinished oak. I want them to last a bit so I plan on finishing them. I've tried researching some online but guides often have completely different approaches, and most importantly don't suggest specific products.

What exactly should I do, and what stain / epoxy / varnish / whatevers should I use? I know I should do some light sanding, then I figured two coats of a light stain from miniwax, but then what? Just put on a varnish? Epoxy then varnish? Use a topcoat (is that any different?) Notes on specific products to use would be appreciated.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Bozart posted:

So I got some outdoor adirondack chairs to give to my wife for our anniversary, and they are unfinished oak. I want them to last a bit so I plan on finishing them. I've tried researching some online but guides often have completely different approaches, and most importantly don't suggest specific products.

What exactly should I do, and what stain / epoxy / varnish / whatevers should I use? I know I should do some light sanding, then I figured two coats of a light stain from miniwax, but then what? Just put on a varnish? Epoxy then varnish? Use a topcoat (is that any different?) Notes on specific products to use would be appreciated.

One coat of stain, two polyurethane.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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Here is a jewelry box that I made for my wife out of Walnut and Hackberry. This is a "logs to lumber to finished product" project. I cut both trees down about 2 years ago.

There was lots of resawing with this project. The front, back, and inside panels were resawed and bookmatched. The two side panels match. Lots of little dovetails. Everything is held closed with magnets.

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ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib
Good haul at the auctions today.

They're all huge and awesome. The crosscut saw is 42 inches long on the blade.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Bozart posted:

So I got some outdoor adirondack chairs to give to my wife for our anniversary, and they are unfinished oak. I want them to last a bit so I plan on finishing them. I've tried researching some online but guides often have completely different approaches, and most importantly don't suggest specific products.

What exactly should I do, and what stain / epoxy / varnish / whatevers should I use? I know I should do some light sanding, then I figured two coats of a light stain from miniwax, but then what? Just put on a varnish? Epoxy then varnish? Use a topcoat (is that any different?) Notes on specific products to use would be appreciated.

Spar var is an outdoor varnish. Idk about putting that over epoxy

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.

Mr. Mambold posted:

Spar var is an outdoor varnish. Idk about putting that over epoxy

Yeah I don't know poo poo about dick here.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Bozart posted:

unfinished oak.

White oak will last decades if kept off soil. Once you put a finish on, you start a cycle of constant upkeep. I know white oak buildings that have been exposed without finish for 80 years and are still going strong. If it's red oak then a finish is probably a good idea, or a deck stain.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
Hey woodworking thread, been lurking for a bit while watching YouTube and reading up on things, getting ready to build random stuff myself. Here's some dumb questions some quick internet searching couldn't answer.

wormil posted:

Okay, so I made one of these Thales Squares. Very easy, took about 5 minutes. As long as you make all 3 points exactly the same length it is very accurate. If the corner is out of square it is very obvious.

I was looking into sliding T bevels today and remembered this thingy. Any reason that design couldn't be used as a T bevel, or T bevels tweaked a bit to do the Thales square trick?

And uh kind of a general curiosity question that came up while thinking about that, anyone know why sliding T bevels are designed the way they are? Like the pointy and rounded ends, and sliding vs a fixed L or T pivot point.

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.

wormil posted:

White oak will last decades if kept off soil. Once you put a finish on, you start a cycle of constant upkeep. I know white oak buildings that have been exposed without finish for 80 years and are still going strong. If it's red oak then a finish is probably a good idea, or a deck stain.

I don't know what species it is in particular, but I'm guessing it is the cheapest oak. I was looking at the online reviews and quite a few complained that it split and deteriorated after a single season, which is why I figured that finishing it would be a good idea.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
It'll be red or white oak 99% of the time. Red is cheap and common; white is more expensive and very weather resistant. Post a pic.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

japtor posted:

. Any reason that design couldn't be used as a T bevel, or T bevels tweaked a bit to do the Thales square trick?

Two different tools with two different purposes. The square could be used to copy angles, sometimes. You might be interested in something called a twelve in one tool.

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.

wormil posted:

It'll be red or white oak 99% of the time. Red is cheap and common; white is more expensive and very weather resistant. Post a pic.

Haven't received it yet. The product is here - the video says they put linseed oil on it. Maybe I should just apply some more and then reapply every year?

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Bozart posted:

Haven't received it yet. The product is here - the video says they put linseed oil on it. Maybe I should just apply some more and then reapply every year?

That's red oak. You may as well piss on it as put linseed oil on for any protection that will give it. It's not an exterior finish, and red oak isn't an outdoor grade lumber. I hate people who make "outdoor" products from red oak, it wasn't meant to be. It's great for interior woodwork only, imo. You'd be better going with a couple coats of spar varnish or even epoxy on it like you first said.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

japtor posted:

I was looking into sliding T bevels today and remembered this thingy. Any reason that design couldn't be used as a T bevel, or T bevels tweaked a bit to do the Thales square trick?

Doesnt look like that thales square holds the angle consistently. T bevels generally lock in place so you get the same angle each time.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Mr. Mambold posted:

That's red oak.

Hold on, not so fast. White oak is actually brown and color-wise they can be similar. From those pictures I'm not seeing the big pores of red oak. Here is a customer picture and it looks like white oak to me.

http://powerreviews.s3.amazonaws.com/images_customers/05/70/70229194_636272_full.jpg

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc
http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/tls/5594606088.html

I'm a couple hours from picking up this bad boy.

Any hints on where I can look for problems? So far, I was going to check the blades for nicks and see how easily the blade spins.

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.

wormil posted:

Hold on, not so fast. White oak is actually brown and color-wise they can be similar. From those pictures I'm not seeing the big pores of red oak. Here is a customer picture and it looks like white oak to me.

http://powerreviews.s3.amazonaws.com/images_customers/05/70/70229194_636272_full.jpg

I am receiving it tomorrow, so I'll take some better photos. Or I guess I can just email them and ask.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Cannon_Fodder posted:

http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/tls/5594606088.html

I'm a couple hours from picking up this bad boy.

Any hints on where I can look for problems? So far, I was going to check the blades for nicks and see how easily the blade spins.

That's identical to the Porter-Cable I have and the fence is crappy. Really crappy. It makes edge jointing annoying.
A lot of other people have reported problems with the tables being coplanar but I didn't have to make serious adjustments to mine. You should check yours though.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



wormil posted:

Hold on, not so fast. White oak is actually brown and color-wise they can be similar.

Agreed.

wormil posted:

From those pictures I'm not seeing the big pores of red oak. Here is a customer picture and it looks like white oak to me.

http://powerreviews.s3.amazonaws.com/images_customers/05/70/70229194_636272_full.jpg

Here's what I was basing my opinion off of. But, this morning most of that looks like white oak grain pattern, ftm.


And this side table thingy that looks definitely like white oak to me, so I will retract and recommend. :thumbsup:

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

Stultus Maximus posted:

That's identical to the Porter-Cable I have and the fence is crappy. Really crappy. It makes edge jointing annoying.
A lot of other people have reported problems with the tables being coplanar but I didn't have to make serious adjustments to mine. You should check yours though.

Picked it up anyway. I checked the blade for any problems and immediately cut my finger.

I'm stupid.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

wormil posted:

Two different tools with two different purposes. The square could be used to copy angles, sometimes. You might be interested in something called a twelve in one tool.
Oh those look pretty neat, and there's a few on eBay...really tempting to get one, even though I'd probably just keep it around as a neat vintage tool more than something I'd use.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

japtor posted:

Oh those look pretty neat, and there's a few on eBay...really tempting to get one, even though I'd probably just keep it around as a neat vintage tool more than something I'd use.

I bought one and keep it in my shop apron because it does so many things in a pinch. Don't pay too much and don't believe them if they say they are brass. They are made of German silver.

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Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.

Mr. Mambold posted:

Agreed.


Here's what I was basing my opinion off of. But, this morning most of that looks like white oak grain pattern, ftm.


And this side table thingy that looks definitely like white oak to me, so I will retract and recommend. :thumbsup:


So if it is white oak I should keep it away from dirt, should I apply linseed oil or just leave it alone?

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