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TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



TaurusOxford posted:

IMO those heels completely ruin the kit. Also, why is this called ZZII again? It doesn't even have a ZZ style head.

Well yeah, it can't have the head cannon because look at those drat heels.

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Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

:siren: :siren: :siren:
AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
:siren: :siren: :siren:
ZII got Kobayashi'd

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Ka0 posted:

ZII got Kobayashi'd

Kobayashi'd? Nah, that looks like a full Nagano to me.

Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

:siren: :siren: :siren:
AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
:siren: :siren: :siren:
My mistake sorry. I get them mixed all the time.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
When you guys order from wherever, how long does it usually take for the package to arrive?

Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

:siren: :siren: :siren:
AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
:siren: :siren: :siren:
Where exactly do you live.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009
It takes 2-4 weeks to ship from Japan to most of Western Europe.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Arcsquad12 posted:

When you guys order from wherever, how long does it usually take for the package to arrive?

When I order from wherever it usually takes about that long to get here.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
That's why you order from whoever, they get it to you this long.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Wherever meaning various outlets in Japan. How long would Japan to Ontario shipping take

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012


Whooo-eee.

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



e: woops, old page.

Zonekeeper
Oct 27, 2007



Guntank review:
It's a piece of poo poo. It has hardly any articulation and it doesn't even look that cool.




1999 Guntank HG model review:
Same as the actual mech it's based on with the addition of: gently caress panel lining hubcaps and treads.

Rating: 9/10 for replicating both the looks and the experience of the mobile suit. I felt as depressed building it as Hayato did piloting it. The inconsistent plastic textures and mold flash from the 1999-era Bandai QC really drove home that I was building a model based on the shittiest suit in MSG.

At the very least it gave me an appreciation for Bandai's modern QC.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
It really is amazing just how much the guntank sucks. It looks like that stupid TOBOR toy from the Star Wars holiday specials commercials.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Zonekeeper posted:

Guntank review:
It's a piece of poo poo. It has hardly any articulation and it doesn't even look that cool.




1999 Guntank HG model review:
Same as the actual mech it's based on with the addition of: gently caress panel lining hubcaps and treads.

Rating: 9/10 for replicating both the looks and the experience of the mobile suit. I felt as depressed building it as Hayato did piloting it. The inconsistent plastic textures and mold flash from the 1999-era Bandai QC really drove home that I was building a model based on the shittiest suit in MSG.

At the very least it gave me an appreciation for Bandai's modern QC.

Treat yourself the Guntank Early Type from Gundam The Origin



It's much more recent (came out last year) and looks better than the 0079 one (to me, at least.)

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Arcsquad12 posted:

It really is amazing just how much the guntank sucks. It looks like that stupid TOBOR toy from the Star Wars holiday specials commercials.

The Guntank is really proof of the genius of the Feddie engineering teams.

Unlike Zeon, they got all their bad ideas out of the way up front.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Screw all of you guys, MG Guntank is one of the best MGs in the line.

Zonekeeper
Oct 27, 2007



It doesn't help that it doesn't seem to be at the same scale as the other suits. The torso's supposed to be a core fighter yet it's clearly like 50% bigger than the torsos of my Gundam and Guncannon.

I'm sure a Revive version would have fixed this, but instead Bandai decided to add stickers to the Guncannon so you could buy a second one and put Hayato's number on it instead of Kai's. Probably the right decision. :v:

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Treat yourself the Guntank Early Type from Gundam The Origin



It's much more recent (came out last year) and looks better than the 0079 one (to me, at least.)

I'm sure it's an excellent kit, but it doesn't look a drat thing like the one used in the show and the whole point to getting the Guntank was to complete the trio of White Base suits.

Edit: vvv I know.

Zonekeeper fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Aug 16, 2016

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
The movie ditched the Guntank completely by the end and just had Hayato and Kai in Guncannons. That's why the REVIVE gives you that option.

MJP
Jun 17, 2007

Are you looking at me Senpai?

Grimey Drawer
To hell with Guntanks, Magellas don't get nearly enough love.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

They never made a kit of the hildolfr did they? that was like the only good thing that came out of igloo. gently caress the guntank, hildolfr for life.


EDIT- oh wait they did it was a 1/144 ex model.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

MJP posted:

To hell with Guntanks, Magellas don't get nearly enough love.



Please, the Magella isn't the Zeon equivalent of the Guntank, it's their counterpart to the Type 61.

The Zeon Guntank is the Zaku Tank:

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Lemon-Lime posted:

Please, the Magella isn't the Zeon equivalent of the Guntank, it's their counterpart to the Type 61.

The Zeon Guntank is the Zaku Tank:



fiiiiiiiiiine



(Mine is arriving this week some time :toot:)

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
at first glance I thought the zaku rifle was the lower arm and was wondering if it would have a neat claw-firing gimmick :V

MJP
Jun 17, 2007

Are you looking at me Senpai?

Grimey Drawer
I just want my tanks to have a turret that can take off, fly around, and shoot stuff, okay

Someone also linked me to the fact that there's a combo 1/100 and 1/144 Dopp kit, holy poo poo

Mad Lupine
Feb 18, 2011

all the things you said
running through my head
I'm going to start panel lining with Zippo lighter fluid and I've heard that this turns the plastic brittle. Anyone here experience this?

Xy Hapu
Mar 7, 2004

Generally speaking, petroleum based fluids will cause plastics to degrade. I have doubts the small amount of exposure when panel lining will do much, but no reason to risk it when you could just use rubbing alcohol or something like that, much safer for you as well.

EDIT: You could also just use a marker, I find wicking doesn't save any time on the majority of panel lines and requires more cleanup. End result is the same too, I did this part marker and part wicking and even in person I can't tell where I did what except by thinking about where it would make sense to use one over the other:

Xy Hapu fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Aug 16, 2016

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

I don't really understand why you would line with lighter fluid when there are a billion other things that don't run a chance of hurting the model

Mad Lupine
Feb 18, 2011

all the things you said
running through my head
A lot of guides swear by it but what you're all saying makes sense. I never heard about using alcohol before. I've just finished my Turn a and I thought using a wash would be quicker cause this thing has a lot of panel lines.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
It really depends on what kind of paint you're using.

Alcohol will work fine for Tamiya, but if you're using enamels then lighter fluid is a cheap alternative. It can damage the plastic if you use too much, but so would literally any other enamel thinner.

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.

Monaghan posted:

They never made a kit of the hildolfr did they? that was like the only good thing that came out of igloo. gently caress the guntank, hildolfr for life.


EDIT- oh wait they did it was a 1/144 ex model.

Not the only thing, I really like the Zudah :shobon:

Yawgmoft
Nov 15, 2004
I haven't seen any box size comparisons posted anywhere, so I thought this might be interesting:



About the same size as the FA Unicorn but not as thick, same thickness as the Sazabi but not as big (obviously, since nothing is).

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

I've used lighter fluid for years when panel lining and I have never had any problems.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Literally the only time I've damaged a model or weakened it with thinning fluids was when I just straight up wiped those weird coffin hip things on the Graze Ritter with a tissue full of acetone on it (I was cleaning up some metallic sharpie, so this is a worst-case lazy scenario). Even then it didn't get brittle, it just got rough in a strange matte way and slightly cloudy.

That's not to say "go hog wild with the stuff!", just dont worry about panel lining turning your gundman into a ceramic egg.

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today
Assuming one is dealing with bare plastic, I see no reason to not just line with a Gundam Marker. It works, is non-toxic, and the cleanup is dead easy, so why wouldn't you?

I've tried acrylic washes on line-heavy kits and it really saves no time at all. Looks worse too, IMO.

Of course, if you're lining or washing over paint things get much different.

Bimmi fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Aug 17, 2016

MJP
Jun 17, 2007

Are you looking at me Senpai?

Grimey Drawer

Mad Lupine posted:

I'm going to start panel lining with Zippo lighter fluid and I've heard that this turns the plastic brittle. Anyone here experience this?

If you put down a gloss topcoat, it does just fine and dandy to both protect the plastic and make the panel lines easier to use with the lighter fluid method. I've had no issues with it so far.

Old Swerdlow
Jul 24, 2008
I've also had a really bad experience using alcohol and Tamiya acrylics to do panel line washes. The alcohol just ate through my clear coat and ruined my paint job.

Lighter fluid/enamel or the Tamiya Panel Wash are my choices.

The Muffinlord
Mar 3, 2007

newbid stupie?
So are you just brushing lighter fluid in there or what? I've got this image in my head of gunpla bursting into flashes of flame and emerging fully lined.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

The Muffinlord posted:

So are you just brushing lighter fluid in there or what? I've got this image in my head of gunpla bursting into flashes of flame and emerging fully lined.

That would be badass, but no; you mix a black enamel (or other lining color) and lighter fluid (60:40 ratio) so that it's nice and thin, then you use a tiny brush to dab into the crevasses, and through capillary action the paint naturally flows through the channels.

After its dry you just use a Q-tip with lighter fluid on it to wash off any paint drops outside the panel lines from dabbing the brush. Here's Yet Another Majorwilliams Blog Post showing the process and results

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Another day, another HG IBO rundown.











In order:



The Ryusei-Go is largely as one might expect - the same old tried-and-tested Graze design with some additional, trickier stickers - but it has a couple of interesting details worth mentioning. First off, remember that it's the Graze Custom upgraded with modified Hyakuren parts - and that includes the hardpoint on the rear skirt armour, which can mount most Teiwaz weapons - specifically, the Hyakuren's knife, the Amida Custom's 130mm rifle, and the grenade and multi-missile launchers from MS Option Set 2. As you can see, I gave it the grenade launcher. The kit also includes all the parts for the original Graze Custom (in red, of course), so if you don't mind some painting, you can either assemble this one that way or convert another Graze kit into the Custom. Also, note the extra rifle. The Ryusei-Go comes with two guns, the standard Graze rifle and the short version with the barrel removed. I decided that the short gun was best used elsewhere, and gave the suit the leftover rifle from my Graze - you may remember that I'd fitted that out in Crank's duel configuration, with the axe and shield. I did have another leftover Graze rifle, from Gaelio's Schwalbe Graze, but discovered that that has a unique finish and colouration that would make it mismatched with the other one.



The Gundam Gusion Rebake has a reputation as sticker hell, and I'm afraid to say the rumours are true. The head stickers are especially evil, but there's quite a bit of bad news to go around. The back-mounted thruster/arm pods are also heavy enough to cause some balance issues, making it highly advisable for the Rebake to either carry its shield on its arm as a counterweight or gear up with something similarly bulky. You'll also note that the shield itself has zero colour-separation on its front - I actually felt that more stickers might have helped here, and the thrusters could have poked through like they do on the HG Gusion and the 1/100 version of this kit. One other thing to note is that the shield, due to its bulk, isn't carried in the Rebake's hand, but is attached to a hardpoint on the suit's elbow. Since the upper and lower arms have different designs (more on that later), this means that it can only be carried in the latter.

It's not all bad news, though. Having four arms offers a great number of loadout customisation options, and since the upper arms were taken from a Graze, and retain the slotted bracers (although they're fixed rather than freely-rotating), they can mount that suit's specialist weaponry, including the ubiquitous rifle and the lance and shield from MS Option Set 1. As you can see from my pictures, it's also quite an impressive setpiece for your collection when fully unfurled. The halberd and rocket-cleaver are from MS Option Set 3, and the former has two different handles to reflect its ability to telescope in the show.



The Gundam Kimaris is one of the more successful HGs based on the Gundam frame, with good colour separation and minimal stickers. The shape of the pauldrons does affect the range of movement of the arms, but it could be worse. One thing I will note is that the booster unit from MS Option Set 4 is a very helpful addition - it's a bit sticker-heavy, but it helps balance the kit both literally and metaphorically, better integrating the bulky legs with the skinny torso and acting as a counterweight against that great big lance, allowing for more and easier posing options. Speaking of the lance, it's worth noting that, like the 1/100 line's weapons, it's held in place with a tab halfway along the handle that slots into the suit's hand, which ensures stability but does reduce posing options.



The Grimgerde is a very nice HG - simple, stylish, intimidating, and sticker-light. It would have been nice if they'd found a way to colour its visor slit, but that's no big deal. Really not much else to say here.



The Union Mobile Worker from MS Option Set 4 is what it is. Yes, that turret does rotate.

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