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HotCanadianChick posted:They're a lot like the guys who buy a 600 to only ride it on public streets, TBH. Not able to really use the bike to it's proper potential. Yeah but do their 600s have banana seats!?
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PaintVagrant posted:954 is a pretty bike, but the f4i has all the power Ill ever need for road riding. For the track, I would rather have something similar powered or slower to be honest. I dont get these dudes who buy an R1 for the track to ride in novice/intermediate. 954 is not really a viable track bike considering what else you could get for less money. Plus they're heavy as gently caress and feel like it. I really just want a clean one for the novelty of it. PaintVagrant posted:Yeah but do their 600s have banana seats!? Banana seats loving rule. Honda is best bike.
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PaintVagrant posted:954 is a pretty bike, but the f4i has all the power Ill ever need for road riding. For the track, I would rather have something similar powered or slower to be honest. I dont get these dudes who buy an R1 for the track to ride in novice/intermediate. The answer to that is it's much easier to do... to a point. Liter bikes let you run squared off lines, be lazy about gear choice, etc.
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Aug 12, 2016 20:32
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BlackMK4 posted:The answer to that is it's much easier to do... to a point. Liter bikes let you run squared off lines, be lazy about gear choice, etc. Where is the fun in that?
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Aug 12, 2016 20:46
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Trackdays aren't a race... eventually you realize that there is no point in pushing to the point that you crash and start to enjoy just being there. Or you move to start racing (lighting money on fire). This is the point that you realize poo poo like the Superduke 1290, Tuono, etc is pretty much loving gold. Fast as gently caress, suspension that supports the power, comfortable riding position, and lots of leverage from the dirtbike style bars to make hard turn-in a joke. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Aug 12, 2016 |
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Aug 12, 2016 21:53
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:954 is not really a viable track bike considering what else you could get for less money. Plus they're heavy as gently caress and feel like it. Wait, what? IIRC they're lighter and have a better P:W ratio than the CBR1000 they got replaced with?
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Aug 13, 2016 07:49
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Aug 13, 2016 17:05
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I dunno what Charlie's talking about, the sadder, fatter 929 I had was a wonderful trackbike. That was the bike I used to ride to trackdays on.
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Aug 14, 2016 00:01
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Slavvy posted:Wait, what? IIRC they're lighter and have a better P:W ratio than the CBR1000 they got replaced with?  The 1000RR is 10lbs heavier (wet)I was just coming off a 600 when I got to the 954 so that's probably why it felt so heavy? Looks like I'm just going to have to get one, and give it a fair re-evaluation.
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Aug 15, 2016 14:54
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uhhhh.... http://baltimore.craigslist.org/mcy/5716299874.html 
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Aug 15, 2016 15:06
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"Purchased A Harley" That's one hell of a transition.
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Aug 15, 2016 15:35
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Maybe it's a harley with a twin stage turbo and a bigger nitro tank?
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Aug 15, 2016 15:52
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You could fit a lot of nitrous in a bagger case.
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Aug 15, 2016 16:28
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I'm still searching for a "Child owned" listing.
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Aug 15, 2016 16:29
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Fishvilla posted:"Purchased A Harley" He says he's 50 so he's probably getting old man pain syndrome.
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Slavvy posted:Wait, what? IIRC they're lighter and have a better P:W ratio than the CBR1000 they got replaced with?
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Aug 15, 2016 18:09
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:For a leader bike. I see what you did there.
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I've been doing more looking, but still haven't bought yet. Yes, the triumph is out. The yamahas all look like they're out. I'm thinking maybe I'll do the klr, but it's really very tall and uncomfortable. But what about the g650gs? How are they reliability wise? The low seat height and fuel injection turn me on, as well as the price.
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08+ G650 engines are manufactured in China from the same Rotax design they built in Austria for the earlier models. I'd look for a nice older F650 with the Austria motor. They are tanks.
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clutchpuck posted:08+ G650 engines are manufactured in China from the same Rotax design they built in Austria for the earlier models.  This is very good to know. It's so hard to find a cheap, off road capable but still good on the road, bike that short people can ride. Ugh. I'm really trying to avoid the KLR, since I had bad experiences on the old model, but damned if I can't seem to find anything else.
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Aug 16, 2016 21:50
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Oh they also have G650 twins that are really downtuned 800cc motors. I have no idea about those.
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Yeah, I just tried a KLR again - no way that's gonna happen, especially not up in the mountains and in the dirt where I spend my time. I could hardly touch the ground with my toe while it was on the kickstand, so I know I'm gonna drop it when I have to stop on Geiger Grade when some idiot gets scared and blocks up traffic.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:Yeah, I just tried a KLR again - no way that's gonna happen, especially not up in the mountains and in the dirt where I spend my time. I could hardly touch the ground with my toe while it was on the kickstand, so I know I'm gonna drop it when I have to stop on Geiger Grade when some idiot gets scared and blocks up traffic. It takes a lot less to get used to a tall bike than you might think. Basically every bike that's decent on dirt has a seat height of 35+ inches. The betas are less, I think, but probably a little bit more performance oriented than you're looking for. I have an xchallenge (G650X) and it's tall as gently caress and it took me two days to learn to just put one foot down and after that it's fine. You can still dab if you need to when you're riding in dirt, but particularly as you get better you'll find it's less and less of an issue.
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Get a nx 250  Short enough atleast. They seem to exist in the us, found one at a random craigslist(can you even search that nationwide?, we don't use that site over here) https://tucson.craigslist.org/mcy/5699264874.html
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Nah, 250s won't do it. Commute is an hour each way. Freeway, VC, dirt roads. My CB500x was good, and I might just get another, but I was really hoping upgrade to something with more power and better dirt capability. But not break the bank.
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You've probably already looked at it but what about the Vstrom 650?
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Schroeder91 posted:You've probably already looked at it but what about the Vstrom 650? Looks like a good bike! But everyone says it is poo poo in the dirt. An important factor.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:Looks like a good bike! But everyone says it is poo poo in the dirt. An important factor. Come buy my xchallenge.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:Looks like a good bike! But everyone says it is poo poo in the dirt. An important factor. I just rode my Vstrom 1000 for 20+ miles on a dirt road on 90/10 tires and it was fine. If you're doing a dirt road and had appropriate tires it'd probably be fine but if you want to do actual off-road then I dont know about the 650. I wouldn't recommend it on the 1000, heavy fucker and you have to change the sprockets from 17/41 (stock) to 16/43 for good power off-road and riding over hills and such.
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Schroeder91 posted:I just rode my Vstrom 1000 for 20+ miles on a dirt road on 90/10 tires and it was fine. If you're doing a dirt road and had appropriate tires it'd probably be fine but if you want to do actual off-road then I dont know about the 650. I wouldn't recommend it on the 1000, heavy fucker and you have to change the sprockets from 17/41 (stock) to 16/43 for good power off-road and riding over hills and such. It's just a lot of washboard and deep grave, plus some very thick sand, with lots of mud and water in the winter. By CB500x did it fine with some upgrades, though I lost a bunch of fork seals.
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clutchpuck posted:Oh they also have G650 twins that are really downtuned 800cc motors. I have no idea about those.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:It's just a lot of washboard and deep grave, plus some very thick sand, with lots of mud and water in the winter. By CB500x did it fine with some upgrades, though I lost a bunch of fork seals. Ah. I would imagine the Vstrom would hold up if the cb500x did, but with sand and mud you definitely want lighter.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:It's just a lot of washboard and deep grave, plus some very thick sand, with lots of mud and water in the winter. By CB500x did it fine with some upgrades, though I lost a bunch of fork seals. DR650? My father in law has a Husky TR650 that he loves. I've ridden it a bit, and it's got excellent road manners. It doesn't feel like a 650 at all on dirt, either. Plenty of grunt for high speed, good torque for slow poo poo, hills, and ruts.
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:DR650? Yeah, that's what I have - g650 xchallenge is the same bike only with BMW branding (and lighter because husky made bad swingarm construction decisions). It's amazing at going fast on dirt and it's fine on the highway. DR650 is another good option, although its carbed vs. fi if that's a thing you care about. On the other hand, it's a ton cheaper.
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What do goons think of Nighthawk 750s? Dunno if I'm just getting bored or the Ninja 250 sucks in Chicago - uncomfortable leaning on my wrists in stop and go traffic, and an hour plus highway in any direction to get out of traffic, where twisting the throttle does pretty much nothing.
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If you're looking to upgrade, I think you can get something way more interesting than a Nighthawk 750. I mean they're probably fine bikes but they don't seem to be really outstanding in any way. Not really a sport bike, not really a cruiser, kind of heavy. I bet they're pretty reliable though.
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builds character posted:Yeah, that's what I have - g650 xchallenge is the same bike only with BMW branding (and lighter because husky made bad swingarm construction decisions). It's amazing at going fast on dirt and it's fine on the highway. DR650 is another good option, although its carbed vs. fi if that's a thing you care about. On the other hand, it's a ton cheaper. I care deeply about the fuel injection, as I ride deep into winter and also go over serious altitude change every day. Like I live at 4500 feet and go up to about 7000 feet for my daily commute. That was the other thing turning me off about the KLR. If the DR650 had fuel injection, though, I'd probably get one.
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Sagebrush posted:If you're looking to upgrade, I think you can get something way more interesting than a Nighthawk 750. Maybe I'm a huge bike hipster POS but I don't like cruisers, just want a bike I can sit up straight on and ride for several hundred miles comfortably. Ideally I'd get a V-Strom but gotta be cheap as poo poo right now.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:I live at 4500 feet and go up to about 7000 feet for my daily commute. Where do you live/work? That particular elevation range isn't especially problematic to jet for. I live at 5000 and have my bike jetted such that I can easily get above 10,000 before things get irritating. Power kind of falls off above about 9,000, but I can still get pretty decent acceleration in any gear at normal highway speeds up to at least 10,000. HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Aug 17, 2016 |
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Sagebrush posted:don't seem to be really outstanding in any way. quote:kind of heavy. quote:pretty reliable though.
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