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Blood ravens used to be decently sized before getting their poo poo repeatedly ground into their faces and them facing a full scale civil war. Though dawn of war 3 will tell how much they have recovered.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Blood ravens used to be decently sized before getting their poo poo repeatedly ground into their faces and them facing a full scale civil war. Though dawn of war 3 will tell how much they have recovered. I played the first 10 minutes of DoW2 and assumed by name they were a Raven Guard successor but the internet tells me it's suggested they're a Thousand Sons successor 
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Sep 29, 2016 18:58
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So I've decided to read the Horus Heresy. I'm two books in. Thoughts: - This Loken guy's my kinda guy. - Abbadon is a giant lovely baby. - Erebus is a dick. - The primarchs are so loving arrogant. Especially Magnus. gently caress that guy. - For gene-engineered superhumans, Space Marines sure are a bunch of lovely little kids. - Lol @ Eidolon. - Sign me up for the Ignace Karakasy fan club. Can't wait to read more. Galaxy in Flames should be in the mail on Saturday.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:02
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There's some truly terrible books in the horus heresy series but I mean as a whole it's loving cool as hell. There's also a couple of the best 40k books ever written in the series, so it balances out.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:03
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Arcsquad12 posted:Blood ravens used to be decently sized before getting their poo poo repeatedly ground into their faces and them facing a full scale civil war. Though dawn of war 3 will tell how much they have recovered. Good money says they've gained Eldar powers, they'll have however many people they need to do poo poo.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:06
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The Sex Cannon posted:So I've decided to read the Horus Heresy. I'm two books in. Thoughts:
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Sep 29, 2016 19:07
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The Sex Cannon posted:So I've decided to read the Horus Heresy. I'm two books in. Thoughts: Agreed on all accounts, except maybe the first one, Loken left me pretty indifferent. mango sentinel posted:Same on everything but Magnus, who is a Cool Guy. He's cool once his character gets more developed, nevertheless his huge arrogance and self-conceit plays a huge part in his personal history during the Heresy.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:15
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The Sex Cannon posted:- Lol @ Eidolon. Eidolon would be the reason I'd want to do Emperor's Children. I'd love to have an army led by Captain Worthless. Unfortunately they actually gave him really strong stats; I'd have gone with S3 LD6 or something.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:23
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Eidolon would be the reason I'd want to do Emperor's Children. I'd love to have an army led by Captain Worthless. Unfortunately they actually gave him really strong stats; I'd have gone with S3 LD6 or something. He is kinda sorta redeemed in Praetorian of Dorn, though.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:35
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Angry Lobster posted:Agreed on all accounts, except maybe the first one, Loken left me pretty indifferent. Loken is super bland, but I'm pretty forgiving of the generic, kind hero archetype so long as they're not too Lawful Stupid. Loken has enough spice to him and a handful of solid foils to keep him interesting. Magnus is definitely arrogant, I wasn't trying to contradict that, just that I like him anyway. Also, Eidolon is a lazy gloryhound but I was never under the impression he wasn't a capable warrior when actually deigned to put in effort.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:45
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mango sentinel posted:Loken is super bland, but I'm pretty forgiving of the generic, kind hero archetype so long as they're not too Lawful Stupid. Loken has enough spice to him and a handful of solid foils to keep him interesting. I get what you mean, Loken is not a bad character for the opening trilogy, but I never bothered with all his audiobook-only stories after Istvaan, so I admit my knowledge of him is rather limited.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:54
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mango sentinel posted:I played the first 10 minutes of DoW2 and assumed by name they were a Raven Guard successor but the internet tells me it's suggested they're a Thousand Sons successor Internet suggestions nothing, the Horus Heresy books all but directly say it. There are other Chapters hinted as possibly being successors to traitor legions, though, and the Grey Knights were originally comprised entirely of loyalist members of traitor legions and might still be - note that their colors are almost identical to the Death Guard, who also provided the bulk of the first Grey Knights. quote:There's some truly terrible books in the horus heresy series but I mean as a whole it's loving cool as hell. There's also a couple of the best 40k books ever written in the series, so it balances out. The First Heretic/Know No Fear/Betrayer are required reading if you're into the Heresy.
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Sep 29, 2016 20:34
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I just finished reading Vengeful Spirit and A Thousand Sons. I thought both were Not Bad. The only other ones in the HH series I've read so far are Flight of the Eisenstein, the Sevatar novella, and the two Death Guard short stories. All were also above average for Nerd Fiction, IMO. I just want more traitor Death Guard and Sevatar stuff now.
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Sep 29, 2016 21:50
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Arcsquad12 posted:When is kyaeler going to write some more fanfic? I really need to. I haven't written in months, I've been focused on other things, and I need to get back into it.
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Sep 29, 2016 22:18
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You have to read the first three of HH, since they are the most important in terms of the Heresy. They're not awful, but they get worse as they go along.
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Sep 29, 2016 22:20
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Yep, now it's time for the good stuff, go and read The First Heretic/Aurelian/Know no Fear/Betrayer.
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Sep 29, 2016 22:24
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:You have to read the first three of HH, since they are the most important in terms of the Heresy. They're not awful, but they get worse as they go along.
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Sep 29, 2016 22:26
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Angry Lobster posted:Yep, now it's time for the good stuff, go and read The First Heretic/Aurelian/Know no Fear/Betrayer. 
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Sep 30, 2016 02:58
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Angry Lobster posted:Yep, now it's time for the good stuff, go and read The First Heretic/Aurelian/Know no Fear/Betrayer. yeah. pretty much anything with alot of lorgar is great.
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Sep 30, 2016 03:00
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I loved the first couple HH books but gave up halfway through Flight of the Eisenhorn. Still not sure if it's the writer quality decreasing or I just got burned out reading them straight through.
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Sep 30, 2016 03:30
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Orv posted:Good money says they've gained Eldar powers, they'll have however many people they need to do poo poo. Nah, they leveled up and unlocked the Rubric geneseed. All the ones with the same VA are actually clouds of dust, and the rest of the Chapter has taken up ventriloquism in a desperate attempt to fool the Inquisition.
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Sep 30, 2016 05:14
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Peztopiary posted:Nah, they leveled up and unlocked the Rubric geneseed. All the ones with the same VA are actually clouds of dust, and the rest of the Chapter has taken up ventriloquism in a desperate attempt to fool the Inquisition. I always assumed they either stole other marines and painted them red, took advantage of the universe's tendency to make a new Steve Blum voiced space marine every time you turn around, or both. Probably both, to be honest.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:54
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chiasaur11 posted:I always assumed they either stole other marines and painted them red. *Regains consciousness as Drop Pod plummets towards the target* Wait. Didn't my armour used to be blue?.....Ultra-somethings?......it's on the tip of my tongue. Oh well it's probably not important. 'For Guilli...... I mean Knowledge is power'. Edit: Now i'm imagining those little history blurbs when you mouse over a Marine, just like the DOW 2 weapons had. 'Brother Fidelius used to be a Blood Angels Assault Marine until his company fell in with a Blood Ravens force and they decided on a ceremonial exchange of Marines. Blood Angels Archivists have no record of any such exchange.' Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Sep 30, 2016 |
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Sep 30, 2016 13:55
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mango sentinel posted:Same on everything but Magnus, who is a Cool Guy. I dunno bruh. Dad said no on the whole sorcery thing and he went ahead and did it like he knew better. Maybe he'll be cool in future books?
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Sep 30, 2016 20:45
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I can only ever see the image of magnus barging through the door to the golden throne and shouting  DAAD, DAAAD, HORUS DID A BAD THING  and Emps being all  JESUS CHRIST SON DIDN'T ANYONE EVER TEACH YOU TO KNOCK
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Sep 30, 2016 20:56
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:You have to read the first three of HH, since they are the most important in terms of the Heresy. They're not awful, but they get worse as they go along. The third book is pretty much a flaming pile of garbage. Just skip it and go read the Lexicanum summary of Istavaan III.
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Sep 30, 2016 21:07
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Skarsnik posted:I can only ever see the image of magnus barging through the door to the golden throne and shouting This is precisely how I see it.
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Sep 30, 2016 21:56
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Looked at Black Library this morning. So once again we have a new Horus Heresy book out today. Officially book 40. And yes it's another anthology of existing stories and one new one. That's it. I'm done with this bullshit. I've still got Praetorian of Dorn to read. After that I'm not buying another loving Heresy book until they are actually no poo poo everyones at loving Terra and Drop pods are hitting the surface.
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Oct 1, 2016 10:02
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See you in 2021.
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I just finished Mechanicum. It was pretty good, although I feel like its characters largely didn't get much characterization. Dalia's crew can each be summed up in one word, and then titan legion guys don't have much going on beyond "noble and good" to define them. McNeill paints a cool picture of Mars though, and he does some of the cosmic horror stuff pretty well.
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Orv posted:See you in 2021. That's generous given their pace.
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Azubah posted:That's generous given their pace. Considering Praetorian of Dorn has Alpha Legion dudes on Terra, maybe not.
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Oct 1, 2016 15:37
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Deptfordx posted:Looked at Black Library this morning. So once again we have a new Horus Heresy book out today. Officially book 40. This. I keep checking in to see if the story has progressed at all (or if the Pariah trilogy has moved on), but I've stopped reading the HH until this thread says "holy poo poo, things are moving again". I have 29 HH paperbacks sat on my shelf gathering dust (30 if I include the stupidly oversized copy of Angel Exterminatus thanks to crappy ordering). I'm that guy that woud have brought them all, but I lost track of what was a lovely short story, what was a novelisation of an audio book, what was available where and what was just filler. I still have no idea what the hell happened to Loken as I refuse to do audio books.
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Oct 1, 2016 17:29
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Dog_Meat posted:This. This is exactly me
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Oct 1, 2016 22:27
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Sadly, Know No Fear is much closer to what the depiction of Istvaan III should of been. Abnett has a much better grasp of describing military operations that really keeps you on the edge of your seat. It is really impressive coming from a guy that was never in. He gets the big picture describing the massive scale of planetwide mobilization.
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Oct 4, 2016 01:27
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Apparently my cat threw up on my copy of Angel Exterminatus today. I suspect he is wise beyond his years.
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Uroboros posted:Sadly, Know No Fear is much closer to what the depiction of Istvaan III should of been. Abnett has a much better grasp of describing military operations that really keeps you on the edge of your seat. It is really impressive coming from a guy that was never in. He gets the big picture describing the massive scale of planetwide mobilization. A failure to grasp scale is the original sin of 40k fiction. Imperial guard regiments are often (It's gotten slightly better in some books in recent years) only a thousand strong or so, and a dozen of them being depicted as a massive invasion force to take a world. Hive cities with literally billions of chaos tainted inhabitants being purged by small forces of Marines. Also miles long ships falling out of orbit are (again Abnett is the exception) local disasters not continent smashing apocalypses.
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Oct 4, 2016 09:16
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Just finished Galaxy in Flames, debating with myself how much I really want more HH.
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Oct 4, 2016 18:33
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Abnett himself isn't free of this scale issue mind you. The sabbat worlds guidebook states that slaydo's crusade only has 2 million guardsmen in it. Even his largest battle during armor of contempt is ridiculously small. If you were going to invade a planet the size of contemporary earth with simultaneous attacks across the globe, you are looking at hundreds of millions of guardsmen at the bare minimum, and you can forget about those numbers if it is a hive world. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Deptfordx posted:A failure to grasp scale is the original sin of 40k fiction. Imperial guard regiments are often (It's gotten slightly better in some books in recent years) only a thousand strong or so, and a dozen of them being depicted as a massive invasion force to take a world. Hive cities with literally billions of chaos tainted inhabitants being purged by small forces of Marines. Remember that Space Marines don't have to sleep and hive cities are densely populated. It's highly believable that hive cities can be purged by a small force of Marines, they'll just take a while. E: It's still silly HerpicleOmnicron5 fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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