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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Waaahmbulance Chaser posted:

Thanks for all your recommendations! Right now I'm trying to decide between Black Swan Green or A Favor for Owen Meany. Any of you read those? The former is pretty good so far.

A Prayer for Owen Meany is one of my favorites, and I just re-read it last year. The first read was emotional for me, but the second time I was able to see how technically fantastic the writing is. Great book, very funny and sad.

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Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!

Waaahmbulance Chaser posted:

Thanks for all your recommendations! Right now I'm trying to decide between Black Swan Green or A Favor for Owen Meany. Any of you read those? The former is pretty good so far.

Black Swan Green is a book from David Mitchell's fantastic period (from Cloud Atlas to The Bone Clocks), and I highly recommend it.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
Fantastic period as in they're of high quality or they have a fantastical subject matter?

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Mr. Squishy posted:

Fantastic period as in they're of high quality or they have a fantastical subject matter?

In my opinion, both. But he probably meant the subject matter.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!

Take the plunge! Okay! posted:

In my opinion, both. But he probably meant the subject matter.

No, I meant when he was writing really good books. Black Swan Green is just a story of a boy growing up in Thatcher's Britain, but it's well-realized and interesting.

Dante18907
Aug 31, 2009

Devilbro giveth and Devilbro taketh away
In the last three months I've read all of The Dresden Files, the first three books of The Gentlmen Bastard Sequence, The Codex Alera and both Mistborn Trilogies. Anyone got any recommendations to fit into this sort of style?

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
The Vlad Taltos books by Steven Brust? They're about a smartass assassin trying to eke out a living in a world ruled by magical rear end in a top hat elves. Idiotic naming scheme aside, they're mostly a really fun read. Pretty short books too.
Plus they tie into the Khaavren Romances and those are amazing.

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Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Second the recommendation of Brust. I'd also suggest you check out Roger Zelazny's Amber books or Lord of Light, as well as Ben Aaronovitch's Peter Grant books.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

I'm so far loving the Story of Owen Meany. What a great voice and build-up in the beginning parts. I love how in the beginning he's describing his senile grandmother as a way of describing himself and says, "she remembers who I was as a kid. But when she looks at me know, she doesn't know who I am anymore."

Thanks for the recommendation.

The book does like, pick up and have a telling story though right? It's not just about some kid with a significant birth defect they like to tease or whatever?

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Waaahmbulance Chaser posted:

I'm so far loving the Story of Owen Meany. What a great voice and build-up in the beginning parts. I love how in the beginning he's describing his senile grandmother as a way of describing himself and says, "she remembers who I was as a kid. But when she looks at me know, she doesn't know who I am anymore."

Thanks for the recommendation.

The book does like, pick up and have a telling story though right? It's not just about some kid with a significant birth defect they like to tease or whatever?

Yes, it has roughly three main plots, which will become apparent during Part 2.

There's a lot of references/similarities to Christianity, mainly about Jesus and his disciples, so you may want to do some research to get some extra layers.

Dante18907
Aug 31, 2009

Devilbro giveth and Devilbro taketh away
Thanks for the recommendations guys!

DirtyRobot
Dec 15, 2003

it was a normally happy sunny day... but Dirty Robot was dirty

Take the plunge! Okay! posted:

In my opinion, both. But he probably meant the subject matter.

In terms of subject matter, his fantastical period is probably just warming up, going be the arc of his published books and his interviews.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Can anyone recommend good academic works/sources on Victorian painting or Victorian visual art in general?

The Story of Art has three chapters (24-26 specifically; 54 pages with illustrations) that cover it and the era as a whole, but that's all I got.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Can anyone recommend good academic works/sources on Victorian painting or Victorian visual art in general?

lol midterm papers coming due

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
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BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Oct 8, 2018

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

You should read noted autistic virgin John Ruskin

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Anyone read Bruce Springsteen's autobio "Born To Run"? Any good?

Hocus Pocus
Sep 7, 2011

I have never read or studied anything about paintings or art history, but recently watched a bunch of Robert Hughes documentaries and started reading about Francisco Goya and am now interested.

Could someone please recommend me a book, or maybe a book series, that is a good introduction to art history, with a focus on paintings? Preferably featuring coloured illustrations. A real 101 sort of dealy.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
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Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Hocus Pocus posted:

I have never read or studied anything about paintings or art history, but recently watched a bunch of Robert Hughes documentaries and started reading about Francisco Goya and am now interested.

Could someone please recommend me a book, or maybe a book series, that is a good introduction to art history, with a focus on paintings? Preferably featuring coloured illustrations. A real 101 sort of dealy.

I'd point you in the direction of H. W. Janson's A History of Art. The newest edition is, unfortunately, textbook priced, but you can pick up an older edition cheap.

Captain Hotbutt
Aug 18, 2014
I recently picked up Island of Vice: Theodore Roosevelt's Doomed Quest to Clean up Sin-loving New York on an impulse buy, but it's flipped a switch in my brain and I'm becoming quite interested in 1880s - 1910s New York City history. Any fiction or non-fiction that revels in the grimier, more criminal aspects of the city during that time? Not necessarily interested in Great Gatsby-esque examinations of the American Dream but I'm open to suggestions like that if its deemed essential reading by you fine folks.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Captain Hotbutt posted:

I recently picked up Island of Vice: Theodore Roosevelt's Doomed Quest to Clean up Sin-loving New York on an impulse buy, but it's flipped a switch in my brain and I'm becoming quite interested in 1880s - 1910s New York City history. Any fiction or non-fiction that revels in the grimier, more criminal aspects of the city during that time? Not necessarily interested in Great Gatsby-esque examinations of the American Dream but I'm open to suggestions like that if its deemed essential reading by you fine folks.

Absolutely read Five Points: The 19th-Century New York City Neighborhood That Invented Tap Dance, Stole Elections, and Became the World's Most Notorious Slum, by Tyler Anbinder. It reaches a bit earlier than your1880s cutoff date but it's great read and will give you a vivid, grimy, gutter social history of the area at the time.

Human Tornada
Mar 4, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.
I'm looking for some breezy sword and sorcery books with more of an emphasis on action/adventure and less on magical mumbo jumbo and prophecies (a little magic is fine). Preferably part of a series and/or available in audio form.

Also any cyberpunk books that fit a similar build, mystery/action oriented, pulpy, nothing too deep.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Human Tornada posted:

I'm looking for some breezy sword and sorcery books with more of an emphasis on action/adventure and less on magical mumbo jumbo and prophecies (a little magic is fine). Preferably part of a series and/or available in audio form.

Also any cyberpunk books that fit a similar build, mystery/action oriented, pulpy, nothing too deep.

Michael Sullivan's Riyria Revelations and Simon Morden's Petrovich books

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Human Tornada posted:

I'm looking for some breezy sword and sorcery books with more of an emphasis on action/adventure and less on magical mumbo jumbo and prophecies (a little magic is fine). Preferably part of a series and/or available in audio form.

Also any cyberpunk books that fit a similar build, mystery/action oriented, pulpy, nothing too deep.

scott lynch, the lies of locke lamora

more magical but with a lot of action/adventure: mistborn, brandon sanderson

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Captain Hotbutt posted:

I recently picked up Island of Vice: Theodore Roosevelt's Doomed Quest to Clean up Sin-loving New York on an impulse buy, but it's flipped a switch in my brain and I'm becoming quite interested in 1880s - 1910s New York City history. Any fiction or non-fiction that revels in the grimier, more criminal aspects of the city during that time? Not necessarily interested in Great Gatsby-esque examinations of the American Dream but I'm open to suggestions like that if its deemed essential reading by you fine folks.

Caleb Carr's The Alienist will be perfect for you. It's a crime mystery set in 1896, Teddy Roosevelt is one of the characters, and the author is a historian obsessed with New York and getting the small details right.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Captain Hotbutt posted:

I recently picked up Island of Vice: Theodore Roosevelt's Doomed Quest to Clean up Sin-loving New York on an impulse buy, but it's flipped a switch in my brain and I'm becoming quite interested in 1880s - 1910s New York City history. Any fiction or non-fiction that revels in the grimier, more criminal aspects of the city during that time? Not necessarily interested in Great Gatsby-esque examinations of the American Dream but I'm open to suggestions like that if its deemed essential reading by you fine folks.

Gangs of New York by Herbert Asbury (The book Scorsese based the movie on) non-fiction and amazing.
Low Life by Luc Sante also non-fiction and about New York's underworld and corruption in the early twentieth century..

Peteyfoot
Nov 24, 2007
I just moved to Montana and I realized quickly that I know very little about the history of Native Americans in the USA (not just Montana). Can I get a recommendation for a book that's either specific to Native Americans in the Midwest or the USA in general? It's probably a incredibly broad subject so if there's a very good book about a more specific time period or geographic area that would work as well. Thanks!

Echo Cian
Jun 16, 2011

Human Tornada posted:

I'm looking for some breezy sword and sorcery books with more of an emphasis on action/adventure and less on magical mumbo jumbo and prophecies (a little magic is fine). Preferably part of a series and/or available in audio form.

Also any cyberpunk books that fit a similar build, mystery/action oriented, pulpy, nothing too deep.

The Greatcoats series by Sebastien de Castell. There's magic and there might have been prophecy but it's mostly a Three Musketeers-style adventure with fun action scenes and a good narrative voice.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

terre packet posted:

I just moved to Montana and I realized quickly that I know very little about the history of Native Americans in the USA (not just Montana). Can I get a recommendation for a book that's either specific to Native Americans in the Midwest or the USA in general? It's probably a incredibly broad subject so if there's a very good book about a more specific time period or geographic area that would work as well. Thanks!

The Earth Shall Weep: A History of Native America by James Wilson. Te amazon page pops up with three other good recommendations as well.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Gangs of New York by Herbert Asbury (The book Scorsese based the movie on) non-fiction and amazing.
Low Life by Luc Sante also non-fiction and about New York's underworld and corruption in the early twentieth century..

I was just about to recommend these. So consider it seconded.


Human Tornada posted:

I'm looking for some breezy sword and sorcery books with more of an emphasis on action/adventure and less on magical mumbo jumbo and prophecies (a little magic is fine). Preferably part of a series and/or available in audio form.

If you haven't read Fritz Leiber yet, he'll probably fill the bill.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Selachian posted:

If you haven't read Fritz Leiber yet, he'll probably fill the bill.
Yeah, he's THE sword and sorcery writer. Another suggestion I keep giving is the Vlad Taltos books by Steven Brust. Not traditional swords and sorcery in that there's a bit more political intrigue, but it's light, fun and action-packed.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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What's a good fantasy recommendation for a 11 year old kid? I've already suggested Mouse Guard and he loved it, but that was as far as my knowledge went. Someone recomnended Sanderson's Alcatraz, would those fit the bill? I love Sanderson to bits, but I'm not sure what's the target age on his younger stuff.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
If they liked Mouse Guard they'd probably love Bone. It's very much a classic that has wide age appeal so doesn't tend to insult people's intelligence like a lot of stuff designed for that age bracket can.

Another classic that might be worth looking into is Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy. It does get significantly more heavy as it goes on though, so that might be a concern maybe.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Note also that His Dark Materials gets pretty heavy-handed in its atheism by the third book, which may or may not be an issue for you.

I'd suggest you look into Lloyd Alexander's Prydain books, or Susan Cooper's "The Dark Is Rising" series. (Skip the first book, Over Sea, Under Stone, and go straight to The Dark Is Rising. You won't miss anything and it's a much better book.)

And if he liked Mouse Guard he might also like the Redwall books. They're not my cup of tea personally but obviously a lot of people disagree with me.

Oh, and The Phantom Tollbooth. Everyone must read The Phantom Tollbooth at least once in their lives.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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Yeah, I read Dark Materials a bunch of years ago and I think they're a couples shade darker than what I'd go for in this case.

I'll check the other suggestions, thanks!

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
The Phantom Tollbooth is fantastic.

I seem to remember that age is when I got into the Discworld books. The Tiffany Aching stuff was written for a younger audience but honestly the main books don't have anything particularly objectionable in them, even if they are a bit naughty at times.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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Not really fantasy, but Pratchett's Truckers trilogy is also very good.

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Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


In the theme of "mice with swords", I have to admit that I loved all of Brian Jacques' Redwall books when I was that age.

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