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filthychimp
Jan 2, 2006
Damned dirty ape

Cialis Railman posted:

Dead eyes Reina was pretty good

Dead fish eye Reina was the best. There's been a severe lack of that since Castle Town Dandelion ended.

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Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord
https://a.pomf.cat/rbeayg.webm

:3:

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
ep1 felt a bit too long for me, but ep2 felt way too short. help. im now jonesing

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
im quite liking the new conflict, it uses new characters to validate kumiko's and reina's character growth

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Endorph posted:

i really liked how they used the rhythm game imagery to get across some of her character. it was sort of an obvious metaphor but it was also cool.

yeah, i like how the various ways they've used animation to make a quiet character expressive


Phobophilia posted:

im quite liking the new conflict, it uses new characters to validate kumiko's and reina's character growth

i like how it casts a new light on and gives some more depth to what we've seen from the upperclassmen so far.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

https://twitter.com/hideroP/status/786954194632617985?s=09

Ribbons: actually MacGyver?

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
Deca-ribbon? Is that her fandom nickname?

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


giant ribbon is pretty accurate imo

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

New Episode was solid. I liked it showing them doing vocal and breathing exercises to start rehearsal. Mizori seems very Yuki Nagato, in a good way. Will be interested to see precisely why she's apparently so traumatized by Nozomi. Although I'm not sure how much I trust Asuka's explanation, she seems like she just constantly deflects and dances around the point.

Also, it's starting to look like my hope that the show would kill Reina's dumb crush on Taki quickly and painlessly was misplaced, unfortunately. I can only hope Kumiko'll be there to catch Reina on the rebound, I guess.

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

by Games Forum
This ep was really good as well, my favorite so far. The setting of their retreat is making me all nostalgic for those school trips where you'd stay up late at night, leave your room, and get into sentimental talks with random people.

also

Parallax
Jan 14, 2006

this episode was definitely better than the first two, better direction and some more funny character animation

also kumiko stealth mode

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



The voice acting is also getting better and better.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

Space Flower posted:

This ep was really good as well, my favorite so far. The setting of their retreat is making me all nostalgic for those school trips where you'd stay up late at night, leave your room, and get into sentimental talks with random people.

also

Annoyed face is very powerful.

Definitely agree with the VA's work being solid.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Spiritus Nox posted:

Also, it's starting to look like my hope that the show would kill Reina's dumb crush on Taki quickly and painlessly was misplaced, unfortunately. I can only hope Kumiko'll be there to catch Reina on the rebound, I guess.

reina's crush on taki is a pretty important part of her characterization and killing it off 'quickly and painlessly' would be a pretty big misstep when it can be used to examine why Reina had a crush on him in the first place and how she relates to the world around her. Sorry it kills your ability to fetishize the yuri, i guess.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Endorph posted:

reina's crush on taki is a pretty important part of her characterization and killing it off 'quickly and painlessly' would be a pretty big misstep when it can be used to examine why Reina had a crush on him in the first place and how she relates to the world around her. Sorry it kills your ability to fetishize the yuri, i guess.

It's less to do with the Yuri and more to the fact that I think they could express the sort of things I expect them to express about Reina (her love for the music itself, her drive to be the best and associate with the best, etc) without making us watch her spend a huge chunk of the show pining for something as completely and obviously DOA as a Teacher/Student romance. I dunno, maybe they'll surprise me.

Spiritus Nox fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Oct 19, 2016

Parallax
Jan 14, 2006

Spiritus Nox posted:

It's less to do with the Yuri and more to the fact that I think they could express the sort of things I expect them to express about Reina (her love for the music itself, her drive to be the best and associate with the best, etc) without making us watch her spend a huge chunk of the show pining for something as completely and obviously DOA as a Teacher/Student romance. I dunno, maybe they'll surprise me.

sometimes it's about they journey and not the destination dawg

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
fukken scrubs need to stop bitching and git gud

-Kousaka Reina

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

paragon1 posted:

fukken scrubs need to stop bitching and git gud

-Kousaka Reina

That made me laugh. Might be Peak Reina.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
i mean, she's not wrong

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Parallax posted:

this episode was definitely better than the first two, better direction and some more funny character animation

also kumiko stealth mode


Kumiko being a Bad Eavesdropper was pretty funny. Highlight of the episode.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya
Asuka has a bright future ahead of her at rabbinical school.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

I forgot to mention, I really liked how they handled Kumiko getting her part back. Such a quick little moment but the show still emphasizes how important it was to her. Felt very real.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Spiritus Nox posted:

New Episode was solid. I liked it showing them doing vocal and breathing exercises to start rehearsal. Mizori seems very Yuki Nagato, in a good way. Will be interested to see precisely why she's apparently so traumatized by Nozomi. Although I'm not sure how much I trust Asuka's explanation, she seems like she just constantly deflects and dances around the point.

Pretty sure they already explained that, although it's not entirely clear if Asuka and Deca-Ribbon's reading of the situation is all that useful. Mizore made a promise with Nozomi to win a competition together, and that was important to her, but then Nozomi dropped out and left her all alone in band with no goal to work towards anymore. It's no surprise whatsoever that she'd feel depressed upon seeing Nozomi again, but perhaps that's only because Nozomi isn't in the band anymore, and she might feel differently if Nozomi actually rejoined. I honestly don't expect any huge twist here: we already have the full story, we just need Mizore to actually express her own opinions instead of letting other people assume things about her. Which is of course exactly what her musical problem right now is too.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Oooh that last scene was so dream-like. I like that kind of stuff.

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

paragon1 posted:

i mean, she's not wrong

"I don't worry about competitions because it means more people hear me and I'm a goddamn boss :smug: "

No lies detected.

The Holy Queef
Jul 13, 2003
No, it is not gross, in fact, it's funny, yeah, think of it that way.
I played euphonium for seven years and haven't held it like a bazooka. Regrets.

Webcormac McCarthy
Nov 26, 2007
The BGM this episode was goddamn amazing

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
https://twitter.com/Bassist_Tom/status/788774185996685312

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005
http://i.imgur.com/RLWkKKX.mp4

Asuka's hair was sooooo pretty in this scene!

FAT BATMAN
Dec 12, 2009

As a former French horn player, I appreciate how appropriately underrepresented the French horns are in this show. Nobody cares about French horns. :smith:

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

FAT BATMAN posted:

As a former French horn player, I appreciate how appropriately underrepresented the French horns are in this show. Nobody cares about French horns. :smith:

:smith::respek::smith:

French horn for 3 years, high school had marching band only and no concert band. gently caress that noise.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006



Yeah, Kyo-Ani is very powerful. I recently went to Iwami, the town used for Iwatobi in Free!, and just about everything you see in the show is there. I'd like to do the same with Uji someday.

EDIT: Also I'd forgotten there was an OVA and I don't think I ever watched it. Gotta get on that.

EDIT2: Nevermind, that was the cute stuff with Team Monaka. I was on it.

Cipher Pol 9 fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Oct 21, 2016

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005

Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

Euphos with dogs

X

crosspost from dog thread

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



So I just started the first season and it feels like this show has like double the number of keyframes of a typical show and a ton of detail goes into animating hands and legs.

What is the budget on this thing? I feel it has to be enormous even though there's no fight scenes to work on.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

kyo ani shows look good less because of an excess of budget (not that they're being made on a shoestring either), but rather because kyo ani has better business practices then a lot of studios and so they retain talented animators and have good scheduling to avoid crunch

at least this is the impression i am under

Parallax
Jan 14, 2006

Cake Attack posted:

kyo ani shows look good less because of an excess of budget (not that they're being made on a shoestring either), but rather because kyo ani has better business practices then a lot of studios and so they retain talented animators and have good scheduling to avoid crunch

at least this is the impression i am under

pretty much

people talk about budgets, but time seems to be a much bigger factor

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Yeah, KyoAni has a lot of advantages over other studios when it comes to their production process. Most of their animators are full employees rather than freelancers cycling in and out by project, and they have an associated animator's school, for instance. With the way most of the industry is organized, just throwing more money at a project wouldn't do much to help things.

Motto fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Oct 26, 2016

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Parallax posted:

pretty much

people talk about budgets, but time seems to be a much bigger factor

Morale and training probably aren't non-factors either. KyoAni is a real feel-good story.

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Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Following up on the budget thing, when shows do suddenly have "more budget" thrown at them, it's usually on the worst episodes of a strained production, piling on more staff in a desperate effort to keep things rolling out on time.

Though it should be remembered that this is all relative. Even at KyoAni it's pretty rough work in a niche industry, and the fact that their organization isn't standard is proof of how tight things are rather than malice on the part of other studios. I doubt any of them enjoy the way things are currently set up since profits on the actual shows aren't made by the studio, rather going to the members of the production committee, a group they often aren't part of. This means what the studio makes on a given project often has little to do with the success of the show, to the point that production delays can lead to a studio losing money on a hit.

Sakuga nerd Canipa posted:

Now your main concern here is that you can't believe studios don't see a large amount of the revenue on a show. This is all dependent on their place on the production committee. In rare cases, the studio will be at the top of the committee, but in most cases, they won't be involved at all.

A good, but depressing example is Girls und Panzer. Sold incredibly well, better than One Punch Man. However, Studio Actas lost money producing it. They didn't see any of the money that the show earned and lost money due to production issues. This is standard.

Studios are contractors. They are paid to create an anime. The large percentage of revenue will presumably go to Bandai.

e:
So ultimately KyoAni shows look better due to differences in production practices rather than budget, but that organization is enabled by the time and money invested in constructing it, as well as successfully moving to become more autonomous over time.

Motto fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Oct 26, 2016

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