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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Dienes posted:

Its so weird that max hearts on the villagers stops friendship deterioration, but the same isn't true for animals.

Oh does it on villagers? I never really noticed.

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Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Captain Invictus posted:

Oh does it on villagers? I never really noticed.

CA explicitly turned it off at max friendship, yeah, but friendship pools are so deep on villagers that it would take like 3 years of ignoring someone completely for 10 hearts to go down to 3 i think it was

of course, the entire reason you do all that for villagers is to get their rewards and heart events, so at 10 you could have them go back down to 0 for all you care. animals on the other hand, you need them high so they still make big produce.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Dienes posted:

Its so weird that max hearts on the villagers stops friendship deterioration, but the same isn't true for animals.

I think poking the animals is supposed to be a cute way of cleaning up their poo poo. It makes sense your animals would stop liking you if you left them to wallow in filth. Villagers are more capable of taking care of themselves.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
I ruined Pierre's Christmas and dropped from max hearts. :getin:

flesh dance
May 6, 2009



a few days ago I mentioned problems with half my fruit trees not growing in the hardwood section of forest farm after chopping down the trunks every day, even though other people's were growing fine



maybe it's just my game f-ing up because I planted these 2 trees at the same time at the beginning of winter in a different part of the farm, and here they are on spring 1. the apricot tree with the "complaint" is the one I'm standing next to; the cherry one above it is maturing at the normal rate with no problems. there has never been an adjacent object next to it for like 2 squares in any direction. now I'm on spring 3 and the cherry tree is mature and the apricot message is "will mature on spring 9 (6 days)" it's apparently just broken :/

uh, I guess I'm not expecting any advice or anything, just generally complaining/wondering if there's anything I can do (probably not)

(mod to display this info is lookup anything)

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

Did there used to be a bush there.

flesh dance
May 6, 2009



checking out the pic of the day 1 forest farm map it looks like there used to be one of those non-respawning large logs there (area under the east entrance), but that shouldn't affect anything :confused: that area had been 100% clear for ages; I used to have recycling machines or something there for awhile before I rearranged things

e: that's assuming the maps always start off with the same placement of logs & bushes; I can't remember. maybe I'll just have to chop it and have a sad lack of apricots until next year-- or just use the greenhouse

flesh dance fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Oct 30, 2016

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008


This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

TurnipFritter posted:

Did there used to be a bush there.

There was a BUSH here. It's gone now.

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


I finally tracked down my save file on a mac and uploaded it to show y'all and my farm looks so sad and pathetic now that I see it. :( Either I just start all over again or I need to completely tear it apart to make a ~cute farm~ or whatever. You people put my lazy planning efforts to shame!

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Okuyasu Nijimura posted:

I finally tracked down my save file on a mac and uploaded it to show y'all and my farm looks so sad and pathetic now that I see it. :( Either I just start all over again or I need to completely tear it apart to make a ~cute farm~ or whatever. You people put my lazy planning efforts to shame!

If it makes you feel any better, here's my farm:



Starting a tiny orchard to the south of my barn, and I've barely begun to clear out the forest to the west. I'm on spring of year two, though, and very satisfied with it as it's my first time through.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe
Every time I think of redoing my farm layout, I come up with reasons not to. I don't want to chop down the trees because they will make silver fruit any day now, I don't want to sell the cows and chickens because they are good for pepper poppers and omelettes, but I really need to get around to just totally rehauling my entire farm. I'm in Fall year 4 now, so maybe I'll spend the Winter doing that. Make my farm super efficient and pretty, because I have more money than I know what to do with, an infinite supply of stuff to turn into wine to age and make worth a billion dollars, and no goals left.

rotinaj fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Oct 30, 2016

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


StrixNebulosa posted:

If it makes you feel any better, here's my farm:



Starting a tiny orchard to the south of my barn, and I've barely begun to clear out the forest to the west. I'm on spring of year two, though, and very satisfied with it as it's my first time through.

You have fences at least!

I'm plagued with this problem where I just can't get anything to grow near my barns so I gave up.



I think part of my problem right now is that I just dabble in way too many things - either I scale back the farm and focus on ranching or vice versa. I haven't even had time to leave my farm in weeks because just keeping up with it is all I have time for.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Okuyasu Nijimura posted:

You have fences at least!

I'm plagued with this problem where I just can't get anything to grow near my barns so I gave up.

I think part of my problem right now is that I just dabble in way too many things - either I scale back the farm and focus on ranching or vice versa. I haven't even had time to leave my farm in weeks because just keeping up with it is all I have time for.

Oh man, look at those pretty paved paths. I don't think I'll ever get myself to lay those down as I like to let grass grow wild and free (so I can cut it for my silo!)

Also, re: your problem as I understand it there's not much profit in ranching? You have pet your animals daily or they stop making large milk/eggs, and that's fairly time consuming when you've already gotta water fifty thousand crops. I've been planning to stick to no more than one or two barns, and several coops as I adore, adore eggs. (and the quack sounds my ducks make when I pet 'em) So it might be better to stick to your fields, idk.

I mean, I spend roughly half of my days running around town talking to people and gifting them things, then I either fish in the evening or do the mines, so it's not like I'm very focused on things. Spread out, have fun, don't stress about a beautiful farm!

Oh, one more note: I don't let my cows/chickens out to feed very often because they just decimate the grass and I need to stop giving Pierre money for grass starter.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005
Only Pigs with the Foraging perks are worth it, even then you won't get any money in Winter.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

StrixNebulosa posted:

Oh man, look at those pretty paved paths. I don't think I'll ever get myself to lay those down as I like to let grass grow wild and free (so I can cut it for my silo!)

Also, re: your problem as I understand it there's not much profit in ranching? You have pet your animals daily or they stop making large milk/eggs, and that's fairly time consuming when you've already gotta water fifty thousand crops. I've been planning to stick to no more than one or two barns, and several coops as I adore, adore eggs. (and the quack sounds my ducks make when I pet 'em) So it might be better to stick to your fields, idk.

I mean, I spend roughly half of my days running around town talking to people and gifting them things, then I either fish in the evening or do the mines, so it's not like I'm very focused on things. Spread out, have fun, don't stress about a beautiful farm!

Oh, one more note: I don't let my cows/chickens out to feed very often because they just decimate the grass and I need to stop giving Pierre money for grass starter.

Get working on quality sprinklers ASAP.

Sono
Apr 9, 2008




Rutibex posted:

:eyepop:
What on earth have you been doing?! How can you afford 7 Deluxe barns by end of fall year 2? What is in those barns?!

You must go mining for gems and gold every night until you collapse or something. I am at the beginning of Fall year 2, power gaming the whole time, and only have half as many barns for my Kegs/Preserves. Maybe its because I spent all of my money on Pigs and Fruit trees....

Skull cave, pumpkin soup, mega bomb if small level, stairs if large.

The bombs generate the stone for more stairs, mummies gives solar essences, and flying fish give void. It doesn't bring in enough gold, so you need to hit the bottom of the mine to replenish. Makes around 40,000 per run.

Buy the wood for barns and kegs, use the keg profits to buy more wood, enjoy exponential growth.

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


StrixNebulosa posted:

Also, re: your problem as I understand it there's not much profit in ranching? You have pet your animals daily or they stop making large milk/eggs, and that's fairly time consuming when you've already gotta water fifty thousand crops.

Since I've got the iridium sprinklers, I don't have to water at least... but yes, in order to make ranching even remotely worth it, it's a TON of effort (and I guess there's currently a bug with animals/mood? I read a long thread at reddit but couldn't quite parse it) for not a lot of money. The financial aspect doesn't bother me so much; I am not a min/maxer and make enough money off my crystalariums & preserves biz that whatever I make in cheese/mayo is just gravy.

I should probably sell off at least half my animals and just stick to having some around for fun.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

rotinaj posted:

Get working on quality sprinklers ASAP.

I actually find watering my crops to be soothing. I've been working on making more sprinkler patches, but there's something...fun? about making sure every patch is watered. I imagine my afternoons will open up more once I finish 10-hearting folks, too! :shobon:

Okuyasu Nijimura posted:

Since I've got the iridium sprinklers, I don't have to water at least... but yes, in order to make ranching even remotely worth it, it's a TON of effort (and I guess there's currently a bug with animals/mood? I read a long thread at reddit but couldn't quite parse it) for not a lot of money. The financial aspect doesn't bother me so much; I am not a min/maxer and make enough money off my crystalariums & preserves biz that whatever I make in cheese/mayo is just gravy.

I should probably sell off at least half my animals and just stick to having some around for fun.

I like the steady 4k from my mayo/cheese money, so even if I spend the entire day doing nothing but catch carp or talk to townsfolk, I'm still bringing in something and that's satisfying.

Hmm. I'll go see if I can't learn more about this mood bug. If the community is aware of it I expect someone's patched it or something, so...

e: Found it! This is fascinating to me, seeing how the game actually works.

e2: After reading through that, it seems like animals+happiness are completely broken, but it's also fine because cheese/mayo are way better than raw goods and don't care about how good the raw goods are. Oh Stardew.

StrixNebulosa fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Oct 30, 2016

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

rotinaj posted:

Make my farm super efficient and pretty, because I have more money than I know what to do with, an infinite supply of stuff to turn into wine to age and make worth a billion dollars, and no goals left.

This is actually my goal, to make $1 Billion in as short a time as possible.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

StrixNebulosa posted:

e2: After reading through that, it seems like animals+happiness are completely broken, but it's also fine because cheese/mayo are way better than raw goods and don't care about how good the raw goods are. Oh Stardew.

Thats not true, higher quality milks make cheeses that start off at higher quality (which you can age to improve further). Mayo doesn't have a quality though, its all Miracle Whip.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

StrixNebulosa posted:

I actually find watering my crops to be soothing. I've been working on making more sprinkler patches, but there's something...fun? about making sure every patch is watered. I imagine my afternoons will open up more once I finish 10-hearting folks, too! :shobon:

Oh. Good for you, dude. Enjoy the hell out of that. You still may want to upgrade your watering can, though. If you hold down the mouse button with an upgraded can, it will first do a 3-space line, then a 5-space line, then a 3 by 3 box, then a 6 by 3 box. It makes it easier to do those middle-of-the-field areas. But, upgrading your can will take 2 days, so wait for the weather forecast to say it's gonna rain the next day, water, then go give Clint the can to upgrade. Go to him when he opens the day after it rains to get it back, and proceed as normal.

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

Rutibex posted:

Thats not true, higher quality milks make cheeses that start off at higher quality (which you can age to improve further). Mayo doesn't have a quality though, its all Miracle Whip.

They can't be Miracle Whip, there are eggs in it.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

Rutibex posted:

Thats not true, higher quality milks make cheeses that start off at higher quality (which you can age to improve further). Mayo doesn't have a quality though, its all Miracle Whip.

Mayonnaise can be higher quality, but I'm not if it's larger eggs or higher quality eggs that trigger it. And I don't think you can age mayo, or at least I would hope not.

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Mayonnaise can be higher quality, but I'm not if it's larger eggs or higher quality eggs that trigger it. And I don't think you can age mayo, or at least I would hope not.

You know either somewhere deep in Asia or somewhere deep in Iowa someone has tried this. There's probably a reason we never hear about it.

Detheros
Apr 11, 2010

I want to die.



Overwined posted:

You know either somewhere deep in Asia or somewhere deep in Iowa someone has tried this. There's probably a reason we never hear about it.

No, us Iowans would just put corn or pork or meth in it instead.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

rotinaj posted:

Oh. Good for you, dude. Enjoy the hell out of that. You still may want to upgrade your watering can, though. If you hold down the mouse button with an upgraded can, it will first do a 3-space line, then a 5-space line, then a 3 by 3 box, then a 6 by 3 box. It makes it easier to do those middle-of-the-field areas. But, upgrading your can will take 2 days, so wait for the weather forecast to say it's gonna rain the next day, water, then go give Clint the can to upgrade. Go to him when he opens the day after it rains to get it back, and proceed as normal.

Oh yeah, I'm not completely crazy - the 3x3 square of watering is my favorite so far, and I'm looking forward to upgrading my watering can again.

Rutibex posted:

Thats not true, higher quality milks make cheeses that start off at higher quality (which you can age to improve further). Mayo doesn't have a quality though, its all Miracle Whip.

Ah, noted! It's just...kind of distressing to realize how screwed up the animal happiness/mood is. I want happy cattle, but I am not going to bed at 6PM daily because good god there goes all of my mining time.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Mayonnaise can be higher quality, but I'm not if it's larger eggs or higher quality eggs that trigger it. And I don't think you can age mayo, or at least I would hope not.

Large eggs give you gold star mayo and that's the only way to get higher quality mayo that I know of.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
I decided to do a few days of farming today and booted up Stardew. I was a good day! I dropped off a rusty spoon at the museum, and apparently that was the last piece I needed so Gunther stopped by and gave me the sewer key:


Oh nice my crop of pumpkins is ready, on exactly the day I wanted. I even have a a gold star :D


I think I will go to Pierre's shop today and pick up something I have needed for a while. Abigail is maxed out at 8 hearts, as we have a platonic relationship. I would like to change that, and quickly, and in front of Pierre. I know that Abigail comes into the shop at exactly 11:00am, so I will buy some flowers and wait :twisted:


Now watch this slick move Pierre, I'm going to take you daughter from girlfriend to wife in one move. If you don't want to fool around with dating, and would like to have a wife tomorrow be sure to do this top-PUA maneuver. Give the flowers first, if she is not your girlfriend the hearts are wasted. Next I give her the golden pumpkin, her favorite thing in the world and top quality on her birthday. 8 stars become 10 :grin:


PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so
Ice cold

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Quality effects how much villagers like gifts?

TaurusTorus
Mar 27, 2010

Grab the bullshit by the horns

LLSix posted:

Quality effects how much villagers like gifts?

Yeah, Iridium foraging the desert got me to 10 with Haley and Linus, gold produce gets tons of people to love you.

Alxprit
Feb 7, 2015

<click> <click> What is it with this dancing?! Bouncing around like fools... I would have thought my own kind at least would understand the seriousness of our Adventurer's Guild!

LLSix posted:

Quality effects how much villagers like gifts?

This is new to v1.1, so don't feel bad if you didn't know.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
It kinda sucks that there's some villagers who don't have a quality item outside of rabbits feet that they love. Like I hit max hearts with Demetrius with gold star strawberries but...marnie I think is at 4 or 5 hearts.

primaltrash
Feb 11, 2008

(Thought-ful Croak)
edit: whoops

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!
Does coffee affect horse speed? It seems to make a difference, but I don't quite want to pull out a stopwatch.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Yes. Horse + Pepper Poppers + Coffee is ludicrous speed.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Captain Invictus posted:

Yes. Horse + Pepper Poppers + Coffee is ludicrous speed.

Yeah basically you'll go plaid

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Alxprit posted:

This is new to v1.1, so don't feel bad if you didn't know.

to be clear, the patch notes specifically say it only applies to loved gffts

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Please don't feed your horse coffee. :ohdear:

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Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

Poil posted:

Please don't feed your horse coffee. :ohdear:

It's a horse. Every heartbeat for a horse is a D&D dice roll of "roll 10 or higher to live" Then one morning it rolled a 5 and dropped dead in the feeding trough. Cause of death: Being a horse for an extended period of time.

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