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What array of grits should I get for sharpening chisels?
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Oct 24, 2016 00:01
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These two. https://www.amazon.com/King-1000-Grit-Combination-Waterstone/dp/B0000Y7LAS/ref=pd_sim_469_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=4NAHX1FYB8KT7DTVD7DW https://www.amazon.com/King-800-4000-Combination-Waterstone/dp/B000248XEY/ref=pd_sim_469_17?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=NYF5WFDNXBR2QT76MCHA
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Oct 24, 2016 00:07
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Super Waffle posted:Can anyone recommend me a set of sharpening stones for chisels? There's so many different grits and materials it's a bit overwhelming Skip the water stones if you're just getting started. Get whatever cheap diamond stone you can find. I like the ezelap stones in coarse, fine and super fine. They are a little more than the cheaper diamond stones but you won't need to replace them for a long time and they more forgiving and simpler to use than water stones. Also pick up some leather to glue on a piece of wood to make a strop and some buffing compound for polishing bevels and you'll be all set. I use the green compound but it doesn't matter that much.
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Oct 24, 2016 01:31
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Cpt.Wacky posted:Skip the water stones if you're just getting started. Get whatever cheap diamond stone you can find. I like the ezelap stones in coarse, fine and super fine. They are a little more than the cheaper diamond stones but you won't need to replace them for a long time and they more forgiving and simpler to use than water stones. These right here? https://www.amazon.com/EZE-LAP-PAK-Color-Coded-Diamond/dp/B000UVS62S/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1477270518&sr=8-3&keywords=ezelap I guess my confusion comes from what grits different stones are and what that means with metal as opposed to wood. Like with wood, I know 80 grit is super coarse, 100 is for evening out a surface, 150 is for smoothing, and then you finish off with 220. And I read somewhere that diamond type stones grit numbers are a different scale than normal grits? Whats a coarse diamond compared to a coarse stone compared to a coarse sandpaper? 
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Oct 24, 2016 01:59
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The scale is the same, it's just that wood is a lot rougher than metal, so what is considered "coarse" or "fine" depends on your purpose. 220 is a good starting point for sanding metal once you've filed it into shape, but if you want a mirror finish, you'll be going up to 4000+. You can't really polish bare wood any smoother than 400~600, but once you've varnished it you can (and should) keep going. Stones and sandpaper will generally have similar roughness if they have a similar grit. The sequence I usually use for metals and plastics is 220 400 800 1200 2000 4000 at that point, the sandpaper feels like slightly grabby regular paper, and you can do final polishing with newsprint or just go straight onto the polishing wheel. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Oct 24, 2016 02:22
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Super Waffle posted:These right here? Those are diamond "hones" and are handy to have around but they aren't for chisels. I was on my phone earlier so I couldn't post what I use: https://www.amazon.com/EZE-LAP-81C-Coarse-Diamond-Stone/dp/B002RL844E https://www.amazon.com/EZE-LAP-81F-Fine-Diamond-Stone/dp/B002RL843U https://www.amazon.com/EZE-LAP-81SF-Super-Diamond-Stone/dp/B002RL843K You only need to go as high in grit as the task requires. For a beginner it's hard to know what that should be. Paul Sellers will say for most furniture work you only need to go to 250 grit for sharpening tools. Higher is nicer but not strictly necessary. If you're making instruments you want to go much higher, like 30,000. If you can't afford all those eze-lap stones to start with (and they're about $10-20 more than when I got them a few years ago) then I'd start with the coarse stone, a piece of leather to make a strop and some honing compound: https://www.amazon.com/Trend-DWS-HP-LS-Compound/dp/B0154F7FKS https://www.amazon.com/Woodstock-D2902-1-Pound-Buffing-Compound/dp/B0000DD35C Paul Sellers has a lot of good videos on sharpening woodworking tools on his Youtube channel, just search for "paul sellers sharpening".
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Oct 24, 2016 03:02
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Cpt.Wacky posted:Those are diamond "hones" and are handy to have around but they aren't for chisels. I was on my phone earlier so I couldn't post what I use: Related, Jack Krenov did all sorts of fantastic work and claimed that he just used a coarse oil stone for getting chips out of an edge, and then a medium and fine india stone for finishing the edge. That's probably 600-800 grit, max. People get way too worked up over hitting super high grit values (and I admit to being a complete hypocrite here since I use 1000, 8000, and then sometimes 13000# water stones after an initial grind) since good sharpening technique will trump the diminishing returns of finer grits on a tool edge. Plus, a decent sharpening jig will get you most of the way to good technique and train you on what different angles feel like on the stone.
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Oct 24, 2016 03:25
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Sagebrush posted:Stones and sandpaper will generally have similar roughness if they have a similar grit. Negative. Sandpaper and stone grit is completely different. Grit doesn't even translate between American and European sandpaper. There are lots of comparison charts on the net to help sort it out. In general, American sandpaper is much finer than equivalent stone grit, so a 1500 grit waterstone = 1000 grit sandpaper. Super Waffle posted:What array of grits should I get for sharpening chisels? The only answer that means anything is, "grit in what sharpening medium?" Sandpaper, stones, diamond, etc.
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Oct 24, 2016 04:23
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Thank you for the advice everyone! I've ordered a honing guide and a couple of the more inexpensive stones to get started. I may eventually work my way up to those diamond plates but I should be good for now.
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Oct 25, 2016 03:51
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AFewBricksShy posted:There's a Bostitch pancake air compressor on sale at Amazon today. I have this one and it's served me well for the odd trim job around the house. From what I've seen that's a good price. I think most people probably have the Porter Cable pancake over this one though and if you wait for a month you can probably get a good deal on that one with like 3 different guns.
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Oct 31, 2016 14:25
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Ya, if you already got the tools that's a decent price. I got the Porter Cable one stupid puma mentioned, I didn't have the brad guns or staple gun and the whole kit was something like $200. The PC compressor and guns look almost identical to the Bostich one you posted so I wouldn't be surprised if they were all made in the same Mexican factory.
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Oct 31, 2016 17:38
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TheDon01 posted:Ya, if you already got the tools that's a decent price. I got the Porter Cable one stupid puma mentioned, I didn't have the brad guns or staple gun and the whole kit was something like $200. The PC compressor and guns look almost identical to the Bostich one you posted so I wouldn't be surprised if they were all made in the same FTFY
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Oct 31, 2016 18:25
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Speaking of which, the Porter Cable 6 gallon pancake is on sale at Amazon today. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000O5RO1Y
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Oct 31, 2016 19:06
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I personally still would spend the extra $50 (steel) or $75 (Al) on the California Air Tools one: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/B1WFB2XXqWS.mp4
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Nov 1, 2016 17:22
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Any recommendations for a budget priced but reliable pressure washer? I mostly plan to use it for car washing and washing the house, sidewalk, patio, etc.
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Nov 3, 2016 02:29
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vulturesrow posted:Any recommendations for a budget priced but reliable pressure washer? I mostly plan to use it for car washing and washing the house, sidewalk, patio, etc. If you aren't using it regularly (monthly), then an electric might do the trick. I've got a 120V ARBlue that works fine for light duty stuff. I'd you need to cover a ton of ground or do commercial poo poo, get a Honda motor and CAT pump, and actually maintain it.
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Nov 3, 2016 02:52
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sharkytm posted:If you aren't using it regularly (monthly), then an electric might do the trick. I've got a 120V ARBlue that works fine for light duty stuff. I'd you need to cover a ton of ground or do commercial poo poo, get a Honda motor and CAT pump, and actually maintain it. I think I have an arblue as well and it works pretty good. In future I would probably just buy them from flea markets and consider them disposable. I was chatting with a lady that buys them at auctions, fixes them up, then sells them at her local market. Apparently lots of contractors buy them that way and it ends up being cheaper than maintaining gas ones. Though I guess gas ones are way more powerful generally.
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Nov 3, 2016 03:10
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Does anyone have opinions on a 1-1/4 HP router vs a 2-1/2 HP one? I'm looking to mostly do edge shaping work at a hobbiest level, maybe the occasional dado as well (so I'm looking at an interchangable base). Where am I going to find the "Compact" style running out of power. Should I be OK if I'm not planning on doing things like joinery cutting with it?
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Nov 3, 2016 16:40
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The only thing I was ever glad I had a big router for was raised panels with a 3" cutter. Even then you need to take multiple passes, and it has to be in a router table. More useful features are variable speed and soft start. On the other hand, "Buy once, cry once."
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Nov 3, 2016 21:11
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One Legged Ninja posted:The only thing I was ever glad I had a big router for was raised panels with a 3" cutter. Even then you need to take multiple passes, and it has to be in a router table. More useful features are variable speed and soft start. Palm routers are super useful in certain situations, but a big Bosch is a way better idea. I found a used one for $35. No soft-start and a cracked casing, but it works great.
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Nov 3, 2016 22:13
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sharkytm posted:If you aren't using it regularly (monthly), then an electric might do the trick. I've got a 120V ARBlue that works fine for light duty stuff. I'd you need to cover a ton of ground or do commercial poo poo, get a Honda motor and CAT pump, and actually maintain it. I'd say I'd probably be using it monthly, if not a little more.
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Nov 3, 2016 22:21
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vulturesrow posted:I'd say I'd probably be using it monthly, if not a little more. Then it's gonna depend on the usage. If 1800PSI will do it, electrics are way loving quieter, don't ever need fuel or oil, and are relatively portable. I've got a 50' 12AWG extension cord for mine, and it covers the whole house. If you need remote use, then gas is the only way. Ditto if you need more than 2000PSI. Don't get me wrong, I love my old boss' 4500PSI monster with a turbo nozzle, but it weighs about 150#, and sucks down fuel. For removing algae from the deck or shingles, my little $99 electric does a fine job.
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Nov 3, 2016 22:31
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Regarding routers, PC is the go-to for generic router, I have a 690 and an 892. If you can afford it I'd go with the 892 with a plunge base unless you'll be doing a lot of trim work. The important part is having the HP to power through lower RPM required by some bits (and being able to do this is the difference between a crappy finish and a great finish on some woods, specially quarter sawn interlocked fiber woods like sapele).
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Nov 3, 2016 22:33
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My $99 Festool sander was supposed to arrive today but we had a substitute mailman and fucker didn't deliver it.
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Nov 4, 2016 02:06
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wormil posted:My $99 Festool sander was supposed to arrive today but we had a substitute mailman and fucker didn't deliver it. He's too busy to deliver it, got lots of stuff to sand with his sweet new sander.
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Nov 4, 2016 02:31
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wormil posted:My $99 Festool sander was supposed to arrive today but we had a substitute mailman and fucker didn't deliver it. It could be worse, mine is backordered!
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Nov 4, 2016 03:40
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Bad Munki posted:He's too busy to deliver it, got lots of stuff to sand with his sweet new sander. Quality.
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Nov 4, 2016 04:45
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Bad Munki posted:He's too busy to deliver it, got lots of stuff to sand with his sweet new sander. You have preyed upon my third worst fear.
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Nov 4, 2016 05:24
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Alligators, Aneurysms, and Assholes?
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Nov 4, 2016 07:43
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swampface posted:It could be worse, mine is backordered! It could be worse, they wouldn't ship to Canada! 
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Nov 4, 2016 15:48
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keep it down up there! posted:It could be worse, they wouldn't ship to Canada! I think Lee valley in Canada was running the same or a very similar promotion actually
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Nov 4, 2016 16:07
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Squibbles posted:I think Lee valley in Canada was running the same or a very similar promotion actually Oh god please don't tell me I missed that. I live a block away from a Lee Valley... Edit: Looks like they still got it for $129 CDN. Though it's listed as sold out for now. Hope they get more. Thanks for pointing it out. keep it down up there! fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Nov 4, 2016 16:52
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The Festool dealer in Canada did have the same promotion but I didn't see anything about on the web until a week later. CPO also had some extras they sold on eBay yesterday for $99 but they were gone really fast.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:01
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wormil posted:My $99 Festool sander was supposed to arrive today but we had a substitute mailman and fucker didn't deliver it. Who did you order through? I haven't received mine yet either.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:10
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mds2 posted:Who did you order through? I haven't received mine yet either. Toolnut. My tracking was updated to out for delivery. edit... 
wormil fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Nov 4, 2016 17:28
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wormil posted:Toolnut. My tracking was updated to out for delivery. drat you, I waffled too long. Then a few days ago I was using my cheap 5" Hitachi ROS and was cursing its god awful "dust collection" bag that constantly falls off. I immediately pulled out my phone to order the Festool only to see it was sold out/ orders suspended.
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Nov 4, 2016 21:52
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It even comes in a cute little abs plastic case 
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Nov 5, 2016 00:39
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Tony Doughnuts posted:It even comes in a cute little abs plastic case That's a Systainer... nothing cute about it.
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Nov 6, 2016 22:42
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Anyone know of a good set of allen wrenches? I feel like the ones I bought from the hardware store strip more often than they turn.
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Nov 6, 2016 22:53
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ColdPie posted:Anyone know of a good set of allen wrenches? I feel like the ones I bought from the hardware store strip more often than they turn. Bondhus. Eklind are fine as well. Wera/Wiha/PB Swiss if you've got cash to blow.
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Nov 6, 2016 22:56
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