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ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Awesome! Post some pictures when you're done!

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GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!
If you are in the process of building the sellers bench, then just make the top a complete slab rather than a tool well and flush mount the face vise and you should do fine. Use that experience to learn what you like and don't like and then determine if you want to make a new bench.

If holdfasts and does feet are part of your workholding workflow, and you still want a split top, then any gap in the top should be like 1-1/2" at most. Take a look at the Mike Siemsen workholding video on YouTube for examples.

Zhent
Oct 18, 2011

The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.
I've finally finished putting the top of my workbench together:


The laminations are poor compared to what could be achieved with either an electric jointer + planer or some actual experience, but so far as a learning exercise on how to flatten and join boards I think it could have gone worse. If I had done it all at once, rather than glue up 4, then 4, then 5 and had three tough boards that would not flex, I may have been able to shrink some of those gaps.

Next step is to figure out how or if I should bother filling some of these gaps:



I watched a Shwarz video where he filled in some gaps with epoxy, but as this bench is a) construction lumber, and b) likely destined to be replaced in a few years, once I have some experience, I'm tempted to just push forward and learn how to make the legs and stretchers. None of the gaps are more than about 1/16ish.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Meow Meow Meow posted:

I love having a twin screw vice that runs the width of my bench as an end vice. It serves double duty though, I use it for end vice things, and also for dovetailing. I've got 18" between screws so it works great.

The Fine Woodworking guys have been talking up a twin screw they put on a Shaker workbench. They said that after using one is hard to go back to a bench that doesn't have it. Is yours a chain driven?

Meow Meow Meow
Nov 13, 2010

wormil posted:

The Fine Woodworking guys have been talking up a twin screw they put on a Shaker workbench. They said that after using one is hard to go back to a bench that doesn't have it. Is yours a chain driven?

Yes, it's the Veritas twin screw vice which is chain driven. A bit finicky to set up, when I had it on my old bench the chain would skip teeth every now and then which was a minor inconvenience. When I switched to my new bench I got it dialled in much tighter and it works awesome. It has a tonne of clamping pressure and also never racks which is great when using it as an end vice. I had it as a front vice on my old bench and while it worked, I found it a bit bulky when edge planing.

dyne
May 9, 2003
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Zhent posted:


Next step is to figure out how or if I should bother filling some of these gaps:

I think I'd just fill the gaps with wood glue and saw dust.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

dyne posted:

I think I'd just fill the gaps with wood glue and saw dust.

They look long enough he could probably use some plane shavings, which would be way less tedious

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Tool chest progress:



I made it a fair bit wider than Schwartz's plans call for, because I wanted to fit my full-size handsaws in there. It will be mostly stationary, though I do plan to sometimes move it to e.g. the rental workshop during winter. I was hoping to glue up tonight, but turns out my clamps aren't big enough! Guess I'm heading to the hardware store tomorrow.

timg-ed progress shots, admire my plywood "bench" workholding savvy.





ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Speaking of clamps, does anyone have any favorite styles? Is there any reason to go for pricier options, or is just going with Menards Cheapo Whatever good enough?

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!

ColdPie posted:

Speaking of clamps, does anyone have any favorite styles? Is there any reason to go for pricier options, or is just going with Menards Cheapo Whatever good enough?

Nice progress on the dutch chest. As long as you don't move it often you'll be fine but that extra width is going to make moving it loaded a strain.

For basic f-style clamps, I see not reason to not buy the Bessey combo packs at home depot, they are a good bit better than my harbor freight ones for very little more money.

For longer clamps k-bodies are great for carcass assembly and all around usefulness but they are expensive, they are also heavy and unwieldly in certain cases. The aluminum bar clamps are great for panel glue ups but not great at much else. Pipe clamps are worse at both tasks the others are good at but are also much cheaper than either. I have some k-bodies knockoff Stanley's I bought when Stanley got out of that business that are my super long clamps, and about 6 3/4" pipe clamps. My next purchases are going to be the aluminum bar clamps for panel glue ups.

stabbington
Sep 1, 2007

It doesn't feel right to kill an unarmed man... but I'll get over it.
My only complaint about K-bodies outside of the price is that if they happen to fall wrong, those plastic feet that keep them stable while you set up your glue-up break like they're barely there. Wish they'd gone with a more resilient material for them.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Dont forget you can easily join two shorter clamps into one longer clamp.

extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

Recent storms got one of the trees on my property leaning against the fence, so I got the tree taken down and rescued some of the wood to play with.


I mean, the "slab" is only 4" wide. But they look pretty decent. I tried again with one of the longer branches, but it twisted a bit while making the first cut, so those boards aren't as nice (their faces aren't quite parallel).




Looks like a some nice seats for a small table to me, and the smaller limbs could be legs for a stool. Don't know anything about that species though.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
I was talking with some other woodworkers about my milling attempts, and one of them said "My neighbor lost an elm tree in a storm. I'll be milling it into slabs today; want to come?" Heck yes! I may owe work an afternoon of productivity, but I now have two smallish elm slabs (about 4' long, 1.5-2' long, 2-4" thick) and a bunch of smaller pieces to play with.



I could have taken one of the full-length slabs; they were on offer. But it's not like they'd've fit inside my car.



:v:

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!
Getting into a hobby like woodworking is a surefire way to regret not getting the hatchback/wagon.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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TooMuchAbstraction posted:

I was talking with some other woodworkers about my milling attempts, and one of them said "My neighbor lost an elm tree in a storm. I'll be milling it into slabs today; want to come?" Heck yes! I may owe work an afternoon of productivity, but I now have two smallish elm slabs (about 4' long, 1.5-2' long, 2-4" thick) and a bunch of smaller pieces to play with.



I could have taken one of the full-length slabs; they were on offer. But it's not like they'd've fit inside my car.



:v:

Elm is almost impossible to find around here. Are you going to tackle it with hand planes?

Waldstein Sonata
Feb 19, 2013

GEMorris posted:

Getting into a hobby like woodworking is a surefire way to regret not getting the hatchback/wagon.

Don't think of it as a way to regret not getting a hatchback, think of it as motivation to buy the cheapest pickup that you can find for the occasional hauling.

Or have a nearby family member who did the same thing. $500 30 year old F150s are a wonderful thing.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

mds2 posted:

Elm is almost impossible to find around here. Are you going to tackle it with hand planes?

I think it was described as a Chinese elm, so it may not be a "real" elm tree. And yeah, I think my only realistic option is hand planing; a belt sander would be too imprecise, they're too wide for my thickness planer (and one side is irregular anyway), and I'm not aware of other options for flattening/smoothing large pieces of wood.

Waldstein Sonata posted:

Don't think of it as a way to regret not getting a hatchback, think of it as motivation to buy the cheapest pickup that you can find for the occasional hauling.

Or have a nearby family member who did the same thing. $500 30 year old F150s are a wonderful thing.

See, what I really want is an electric truck. Too bad nobody's making them (EDIT: though, I know a guy who got a Prius, chopped the back half off, and stuck a truck bed on there). The Tesla Model X is technically an electric SUV but I'd be surprised if it was well-suited to moving lumber or tools.

Maybe I should get a trailer.

TooMuchAbstraction fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jan 26, 2017

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.
Hybrid F-150 is coming, but not until 2020.

And you're right, the X is a people hauler, not a *stuff* hauler.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

and I'm not aware of other options for flattening/smoothing large pieces of wood.

A router sled will handle nearly any size slab. You would still need to finish it off with something else, but it would do the majority of it.

Minorkos
Feb 20, 2010

I made this box with my pops recently and it turned out okay. It's made for carrying all my tabletop gaming crap.



(the cloth on the inside wasn't glued on at the time I took the pic, which is why it looks off)

I was thinking of putting a carrying handle on it, but yesterday I realized that the symbol on top is the wrong way around for that (it would be upside down if it was carried by a handle on the side with the latches) so rip

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Waldstein Sonata posted:

Don't think of it as a way to regret not getting a hatchback, think of it as motivation to buy the cheapest pickup that you can find for the occasional hauling.

Or have a nearby family member who did the same thing. $500 30 year old F150s are a wonderful thing.

I have a Yaris, but I fitted a trailer hitch to it so I can take a trailer, this has made it an extremely capable car. I think trailers are much more practical than a pickup where 99% of the time you drive around with unused capacity. And over here even an old pickup is expensive to just own due to taxes, in fact an old heavy gas guzzling pickup is more expensive tax wise than my little yaris.

If not for the tax and insurance I would need, I'd like a pickup though, it's sit at home 99% of the time. But no it would just be a money drain.

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!

His Divine Shadow posted:

I have a Yaris, but I fitted a trailer hitch to it so I can take a trailer, this has made it an extremely capable car. I think trailers are much more practical than a pickup where 99% of the time you drive around with unused capacity. And over here even an old pickup is expensive to just own due to taxes, in fact an old heavy gas guzzling pickup is more expensive tax wise than my little yaris.

If not for the tax and insurance I would need, I'd like a pickup though, it's sit at home 99% of the time. But no it would just be a money drain.

I have a trailer as well, but I've found a roof rack and straps can handle a lot of situations just fine as well.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Minorkos posted:

I made this box with my pops recently and it turned out okay. It's made for carrying all my tabletop gaming crap.



(the cloth on the inside wasn't glued on at the time I took the pic, which is why it looks off)

I was thinking of putting a carrying handle on it, but yesterday I realized that the symbol on top is the wrong way around for that (it would be upside down if it was carried by a handle on the side with the latches) so rip

That's a pretty sweet box. And welcome to the creative world, where you will notice the things that are wrong with your own creation, but no one else will.

Especially not if it's just a symbol that's upside down some of the time.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

GEMorris posted:

I have a trailer as well, but I've found a roof rack and straps can handle a lot of situations just fine as well.

I bought a set of aftermarket rack bars for my Civic, but they take a fair amount of time to install securely, and I didn't want to leave them on all the time because of the impact they have on mileage and road noise, so I ended up getting rid of them. They do substantially improve hauling capacity though.

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

I bought a set of aftermarket rack bars for my Civic, but they take a fair amount of time to install securely, and I didn't want to leave them on all the time because of the impact they have on mileage and road noise, so I ended up getting rid of them. They do substantially improve hauling capacity though.

Yeah, while I had the car with a roof rack my commute was all city so they didn't do much to mileage. Now I drive a Miata so I have to borrow my wife's mazda3 which works for a lot of stuff but it does have a hitch so I can pull out the trailer the few times of year that I need it.

Personally I wouldn't even consider owning a 3rd vehicle or dailying a truck, but that's me. I realize not everyone has a place to store a trailer.

FetusPorn
Jul 7, 2003

WUGT: Creatures attack and block as normal, but none deal any damage during combat. All attacking creatures are still tapped. Use this ability any time
Hey, I got a big hunk of burl at a junk shop for a few bucks and (aside from ruining 2 bandsaw blades on embedded rocks) it is AMAZING! It machines like a dream. It almost has a waxy/soapy quality when drilling/sanding (fine paper loads up real fast, but it takes a shine without any oil/lacquer).

Only problem is I have no idea what it is.
It's hard, like oak, but very fine/closed grain. Also has no smell like pine/redwood when cutting. Anyone care to take a guess?

Here's a couple slabs fresh off the bandsaw:

Here's one after sanding to 600grit:


Thanks!

EDIT: Why don't the images show up for me? Right-click, Open image in new tab if you can't see them either.

Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM

FetusPorn posted:

EDIT: Why don't the images show up for me? Right-click, Open image in new tab if you can't see them either.

Use imgur for inline images, most other sites don't like SA.



Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



FetusPorn posted:

Hey, I got a big hunk of burl at a junk shop for a few bucks and (aside from ruining 2 bandsaw blades on embedded rocks) it is AMAZING! It machines like a dream. It almost has a waxy/soapy quality when drilling/sanding (fine paper loads up real fast, but it takes a shine without any oil/lacquer).

Only problem is I have no idea what it is.
It's hard, like oak, but very fine/closed grain. Also has no smell like pine/redwood when cutting. Anyone care to take a guess?

Here's a couple slabs fresh off the bandsaw:

Here's one after sanding to 600grit:


Thanks!

EDIT: Why don't the images show up for me? Right-click, Open image in new tab if you can't see them either.

Yeah, you're gonna stump the panel with burl I think. There's several species that it's more common to, walnut being one. Since the rough cut looks like walnut, colorwise I'd go with it. That's all I got. It really is pretty, though, good snag.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

FetusPorn posted:

EDIT: Why don't the images show up for me? Right-click, Open image in new tab if you can't see them either.

SA is HTTPS now and doesn't allow images to load over regular HTTP.

FetusPorn
Jul 7, 2003

WUGT: Creatures attack and block as normal, but none deal any damage during combat. All attacking creatures are still tapped. Use this ability any time
Well that explains it. Thanks for relinking! Also, that second pic looks way more red as I took it under different light. Didn't mean to pose a trick question ;-)

I think Mambold is correct, I do detect a slight walnut smell on closer inspection. I've worked with regular non-burl walnut a lot and I've never felt this waxy smoothness before. And even though it doesn't really look that red in its finished state (more brown like Walnut), the sanding dust is REALLY red... very strange.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Odd question but does anyone have suggestions for infusing books with glue to the point they would hold up in a lathe? With fascism in the wind I want to have a cudgel of words handy in a more tangible and club-shaped format.

The starting point I'm imagining is clear epoxy resin and a vacuum chamber but not sure where to go from there

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jan 27, 2017

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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shame on an IGA posted:

Odd question but does anyone have suggestions for infusing books with glue to the point they would hold up in a lathe? With fascism in the wind I want to have a cudgel of words handy in a more tangible and club-shaped format.

The starting point I'm imagining is clear epoxy resin and a vacuum chamber but not sure where to go from there

Look up how DIY micarta is made and work from there.

patonthebach
Aug 22, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Is there any good reason to buy a sawzall and a hammer drill for woodworking or are they just mostly construction/home improvement tools? They have an amazing sale on them right now at Walmart in Canada for like half price.

https://www.amazon.ca/BOSTITCH-BTE140K-2-Inch-2-Speed-Hammer/dp/B00FR6V6Z0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485565710&sr=8-2&keywords=bostitch+drill

this is 55 CDN.

https://www.amazon.ca/BOSTITCH-BTE3...h+reciprocating

this is also 55 Cdn

But I cant tell if Im just being blinded by the good deals.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

patonthebach posted:

Is there any good reason to buy a sawzall and a hammer drill for woodworking or are they just mostly construction/home improvement tools? They have an amazing sale on them right now at Walmart in Canada for like half price.

https://www.amazon.ca/BOSTITCH-BTE140K-2-Inch-2-Speed-Hammer/dp/B00FR6V6Z0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485565710&sr=8-2&keywords=bostitch+drill

this is 55 CDN.

https://www.amazon.ca/BOSTITCH-BTE3...h+reciprocating

this is also 55 Cdn

But I cant tell if Im just being blinded by the good deals.

Sawzalls are only good for rapid demo, really.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Yeah I can't think of a use for a hammer drill. A sawzall has more utility, but the last time I was involved with one, it was to saw off the entire back half of a car to have it welded to another car.

The last time I used one was to chop off a fender through the frame. And to demo a lovely little grill so that it would fit in the recycle bin.

Phone fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jan 28, 2017

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

durr
i have a hole in my head
durr
What's a good supplier for those metal corner protectors you see on wood boxes that will get knocked around? Got to thinking about it because I scored a nice old pistol box (like the last linked one below) in need of some major TLC on the outside. Going to have to replace the tore up leatherette and I might as well add some extra protection if I'm going to get fancy with some pigskin or something, especially since a couple are already banged up pretty good.

So if anyone wants some relatively easy cash from this hobby try making Bullseye Pistol Boxes like this amazing one.
(thread link with more general pics)

Here's a much more basic one like what I got for $250 for reference.
http://www.larrysguns.com/Products/NEW-Saunders-4-Gun-Pistol-Box__SAU-spc-GB4.aspx

Bullseye pistol shooters tend to have lots 'o cash for their hobby and I know some TFR folks would go apeshit for a fancy custom one.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



shame on an IGA posted:

Odd question but does anyone have suggestions for infusing books with glue to the point they would hold up in a lathe? With fascism in the wind I want to have a cudgel of words handy in a more tangible and club-shaped format.

The starting point I'm imagining is clear epoxy resin and a vacuum chamber but not sure where to go from there

You could take a few weeks worth of the Sunday editorial pages of the N.Y. Times, roller on some epoxy or hell, aliphatic (wood) glue- roll it up, rinse, repeat. Bind it up with velcro, no need for a vacuum. Voila, Louisville Slugger sized staff of vitriolic indignation.
I think using a lathe would be, eh, see how it looks at that point.

Tres Burritos
Sep 3, 2009




Preparing rough cut lumber is like magic, this is so cool.

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Granite Octopus
Jun 24, 2008

Yes, yes it is!

What plane is that? It looks really pretty.

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