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Like if you guys actually want the research behind Second Language Acquisition I can fill you guys in, since its literally my career.
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May 15, 2017 22:32
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Science is some hosed up nerds tormenting animals in a basement and then whinging when don't give them all our money and hail every stupid opinion they have
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May 15, 2017 22:34
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I'm also a scientist with many credentials and I frown upon 'experimental' ''evidence''.
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May 15, 2017 22:44
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I'm a race scientist.
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Shibawanko posted:It's not really. English is my second language, how do you imagine it's different? I figured you'd miss out on little jokes and references and stuff mostly, or just take slightly longer to get stuff so stuff doesn't quite land they way it should, like seems to happen in conversations a bit. Like I said that's not a scientific viewpoint because it's not my area so if I'm completely wrong that's very cool. I wasn't coming down on either side, just saying the conversation seemed loud and ill informed, and "this is how the brain works based the headline of an article on I loving Love Science" is a topic that comes up constantly on these forums. If someone knows more than they were letting on good for them
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Ras Het posted:Science is some hosed up nerds tormenting animals in a basement and then whinging when don't give them all our money and hail every stupid opinion they have Mel's been shocking those rats for years and they still haven't learned Russian.
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Magnus Manfist posted:I figured you'd miss out on little jokes and references and stuff mostly, or just take slightly longer to get stuff so stuff doesn't quite land they way it should, like seems to happen in conversations a bit. Like I said that's not a scientific viewpoint because it's not my area so if I'm completely wrong that's very cool. Yeah, I was probably crude in my description, but there is some very interesting research into how we conceive of language learned as children versus language learned as adults.
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Magnus Manfist posted:I figured you'd miss out on little jokes and references and stuff mostly, or just take slightly longer to get stuff so stuff doesn't quite land they way it should, like seems to happen in conversations a bit. This doesn't seem different from talking to a stupid native speaker
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Magnus Manfist posted:I figured you'd miss out on little jokes and references and stuff mostly, or just take slightly longer to get stuff so stuff doesn't quite land they way it should, like seems to happen in conversations a bit. Like I said that's not a scientific viewpoint because it's not my area so if I'm completely wrong that's very cool. My old boss, an American, used to enjoy quizzing me on the meaning of little references and jokes, like he'd ask me if I knew what butt chugging was (it is a barbaric practice whereby alcohol is "drunk" through the human anus, instead of through the mouth, which is the normal way). I knew all of them and it would annoy him because he believed that native speakers were better teachers and much of his ego was based on that idea.
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May 15, 2017 23:06
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lmao at everyone pretending languages that aren't Esperanto have value
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Shibawanko posted:My old boss, an American, used to enjoy quizzing me on the meaning of little references and jokes, like he'd ask me if I knew what butt chugging was (it is a barbaric practice whereby alcohol is "drunk" through the human anus, instead of through the mouth, which is the normal way). I knew all of them and it would annoy him because he believed that native speakers were better teachers and much of his ego was based on that idea. If it helps, knowing what butt chugging is not what I meant
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Mover posted:lmao at everyone pretending languages that aren't Esperanto have value ekzakte
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Mel Mudkiper posted:If it helps, knowing what butt chugging is not what I meant i'm pretty sure "weird american butt trends" is an entire section of the toefl
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CestMoi posted:Look here I'm a neuroscientist and here's my anecdote. It's a neuroscientist anecdote, made by me, a neuroscientist, and that's how you know it's true.
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If you go and talk to scientists they will tell you that a lot of things in whatever field they're in are much less certain than they may appear, and that's for relatively established fields, with something like neuroscience they don't have any idea how half the poo poo works.
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Not to distract from amateur linguistic chat but I finished The Sympathizer yesterday and thought it was really funny. Like people kinda pissed and moaned about it being overwritten but to me it seemed like a parody of some LeCarre poo poo.
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neuroscience, a field which at its best has progressed slightly beyond the 'chanting in huts' stage of development,
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chernobyl kinsman posted:neuroscience, a field which at its best has progressed slightly beyond the 'chanting in huts' stage of development, here we find a great wasteland etc etc
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Nanomashoes posted:I'm a race scientist. Gonna need those head size measurements by Thursday, buddy.
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I, for one, loving LOVE science,
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Shibawanko posted:My old boss, an American, used to enjoy quizzing me on the meaning of little references and jokes, like he'd ask me if I knew what butt chugging was (it is a barbaric practice whereby alcohol is "drunk" through the human anus, instead of through the mouth, which is the normal way). I knew all of them and it would annoy him because he believed that native speakers were better teachers and much of his ego was based on that idea.
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now i understand american literature!
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Anyone who claims to have learned multiple languages after the age of 16 or so is either a liar or has a significant over-estimation of their level of comprehension hell I learned Swahili from the back of a Fruit Loop box. maybe you're just unintelligent? Nanomashoes posted:I'm a race scientist. I think phrenology might have been one of those sciences we rashly let slip by the wayside. And all because some goofy European had a couple of wild ideas. Here's a good article written by the last great American president, Theodore Roosevelt, on the distinction between a good boy versus a goody-goody boy: http://www.foundationsmag.com/americanboy-com.html I read a bunch of Montaigne and Brothers Karamazov and I take back what I said about Dostoevsky for those of you keeping score at home. My big takeaway from Montaigne is that it's okay to be a complete loving retard. He's a man who cannot read for more than an hour at a time, thinks most books are poo poo and who retains virtually nothing of what he read. Apropos the general thread discussion, he spoke many languages but considered most of them to be gay. hog fat fucked around with this message at 00:12 on May 17, 2017 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I was going to zing you all with Nabokov but turns out he spoke English before he spoke Russian because his family was full of anglophiles pretty sure Conrad learned English at like 17. but he doesn't care for Africans so gently caress him.
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hog fat posted:My big takeaway from Montaigne is that it's okay to be a complete loving retard. i'm getting this tattooed on one of my buttocks
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I started reading Cancer Ward without realising Solzhenitsyn was an actual fascist lol. Is he at least a fun one like Mishima
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I started reading Cancer Ward without realising Solzhenitsyn was an actual fascist lol. Is he at least a fun one like Mishima what
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I'm gonna become fluent in French by reading every Goosebumps book in French. Au revoir bitches.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I started reading Cancer Ward without realising Solzhenitsyn was an actual fascist lol. Is he at least a fun one like Mishima I think he was more of a monarchist
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A human heart posted:I think he was more of a monarchist I mean he loved Franco and blamed the Jews for the rise of communism
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Um so I just finished Lincoln in the Bardo and it made me feel things I have never felt reading a book and was also very good apart from that. Probably my favourite book I've read so far this year. I also just finished Alejandro Zambra's Multiple Choice which was kinda cool but kind of not (ie. I kind of hated it for being so direct and uninhibited). Anyone have thoughts on this?
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The Book Barn › Quit Being a loving Child and knowing what butt chugging is not what I meant
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petition for lincoln in the bardo to be added to the official thread canon alongside aquarium, by david vann
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chernobyl kinsman posted:petition for lincoln in the bardo to be added to the official thread canon alongside aquarium, by david vann seconded
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I very much enjoyed Lincoln in the Bardo! Though it didn't do that much for me emotionally.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:petition for lincoln in the bardo to be added to the official thread canon alongside aquarium, by david vann What else is thread canon? Dictionary of the Khazars? Anything else?
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Guy A. Person posted:What else is thread canon? Dictionary of the Khazars? Anything else? Probably Gravity's Rainbow for the sheer amount of times it's mentioned (with sincerity or as a joke)
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the legend of the 10 elemental masters
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