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well why not posted:I think if there were to be an adaptation of another Blizzard property, I'd put money on Overwatch getting some sort of animated feature first. Check pornhub there's a ton
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Check pornhub there's a ton Including a live action one with Aletta Ocean, who already looks like a weird fetish cartoon character designed by an overly horny teen.
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Feb 7, 2017 01:25
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MisterBibs posted:The story of Arthas becoming the Lich King is the bad guy's story. The good guy's story is the Orcish Horde. Failure to agree with that lays the path of madness that leads to having issue with Thrall saving the day regularly in WoW. Thrall has done literally gently caress all but gently caress up and create the monster Garrosh Hellscream since like, BC. Maaaaaaaaaaybe he helped a bit in Cata, but that was more Alexstraza and the other dragon idiots. He did gently caress all in WOTLK, gently caress all in Pandaria, gently caress all in Draenor even though his loving alt-dad was there and he's doing gently caress all in Legion except loving off to be a bitch. At this point the good guys are basically the Tauren and Trolls, and the Alliance, with the Kirin Tor also helping.
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Feb 7, 2017 14:15
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well why not posted:I think if there were to be an adaptation of another Blizzard property, I'd put money on Overwatch getting some sort of animated feature first. If there was a full on animated Overwatch movie, I'd absolutely go see it. No matter how """"""""bad"""""""" everyone would scream the writing is
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Feb 7, 2017 17:27
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Overwatch would be hilarious because the fluff is so unbelievably badly stitched together that Blizzard couldn't even bring themselves to put it in the game
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Feb 7, 2017 21:41
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Watched Warcraft for the second time and I still have tons of questions. Most importantly: Why was Lothar so high all the time? Is this from the games?
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Feb 12, 2017 05:49
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a diablo movie could be alright as long as they ignored 3 which they would not do.
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UmOk posted:Watched Warcraft for the second time and I still have tons of questions. Most importantly: Why was Lothar so high all the time? Is this from the games? It's because Fimmel's method of playing a beloved warrior leader (which he's been doing successfully on vikings for 4 seasons now) is, rather than trying to play him as a heroic warrior everyone follows through force of personality, he just plays him as a twitchy weirdo that people follow because he gets results, dammit. The problem is that, in Warcraft, he doesn't really get results.
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Feb 12, 2017 23:01
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Groovelord Neato posted:a diablo movie could be alright as long as they ignored 3 which they would not do. None of the Diablo games had good stories that you could make a movie out of. Not even close.
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Feb 12, 2017 23:11
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Steve2911 posted:None of the Diablo games had good stories that you could make a movie out of. Not even close. Amoral mercenaries getting really angry over loot could be a good movie.
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Feb 12, 2017 23:40
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It's like Dante's Inferno where the hapless mortal is escorted to hell, only instead of an ancient Roman poet the escort is a scantily clad Sorceress, and instead of walking the whole way they just teleport straight to Lucifer, and then Sorceress shoots a laser at Satan and kills him. And instead of moving on to Purgatory they instead go to Double Hell where they do the exact same thing except Satan takes three or four lasers instead of the one. At the end, the hapless mortal has become strong enough to bench press a truck by virtue of seeing Satan die so often.
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Feb 12, 2017 23:54
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I could see a kind of horror film if they just did the 1st game, have a lord of the rings-esque prologue showing Leoric's fall (though maybe don't spoil that Diablo takes over Albrecht) and then have the lead in with Adaon returning with his buddy sorcerer. They go into the cathedral and they run into Blood Raven and then you have another hour of going deeper into Diablo's domain. You up the stakes with Sorcerer going slowly insane, maybe kind of like what happened in Sphere, and Blood Raven gets corrupted. Then you finish with Adaon killing Diablo and sticking himself with the soulstone like a moron and he returns to Tristram with a Blood Raven who seems to be "cured" of Diablo's influence and the Sorcerer is deemed an acceptable loss even though he is still roaming the depths or the wilderness. We have avoided talking about the Nephilim entirely, and the other evils and angels are not referred to in great detail so you could explore it in the sequel. Considering the story in Diablo 1 this is probably as decent a premise that you could have and doesn't include the dumber things from 3 (don't do the Adria plot point, that was one of the dumbest things from 3)
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Feb 13, 2017 00:16
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the dark wanderer being leoric's other son (albrecht is explicitly his only son in the first two games i'm pretty sure) is a lovely retcon so no don't make it adaon.
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Feb 13, 2017 00:25
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was it? I only played D3 the one time when it was released so I guess I got things mixed up, well even with that change you still have something interesting you can explore.
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Feb 13, 2017 01:13
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wdarkk posted:Amoral mercenaries getting really angry over loot could be a good movie.  , but fiction is going to have a tough time competing with the real thing.
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Feb 13, 2017 19:19
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Freakazoid_ posted:
I knew that was coming.
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Feb 14, 2017 00:49
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Groovelord Neato posted:the dark wanderer being leoric's other son (albrecht is explicitly his only son in the first two games i'm pretty sure) is a lovely retcon so no don't make it adaon. I always thought the wanderer was the fighter from D1. That it is one of the three heroes is the only thing that makes any sense.
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Feb 14, 2017 02:47
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dont even fink about it posted:I always thought the wanderer was the fighter from D1. That it is one of the three heroes is the only thing that makes any sense. He's both!  But D3 is fully entrenched in prequel territory; you can ignore it without losing much.
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dont even fink about it posted:I always thought the wanderer was the fighter from D1. That it is one of the three heroes is the only thing that makes any sense. he was but they retconned him into being leoric's other son (diablo from 1 is explicitly leoric's only son in the original games). it's straight up prequelitis poo poo where everything/one has to be related. you fight the sorcerer and rogue as bosses in d2. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Feb 14, 2017 |
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Feb 14, 2017 23:30
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Groovelord Neato posted:he was but they retconned him into being leoric's other son (diablo from 1 is explicitly leoric's only son in the original games). it's straight up prequelitis poo poo where everything/one has to be related. Lmao nothing is safe from lovely Blizzard retcons. I played 1 and 2, Diablo never had a great story but it did the job. what the gently caress. quote:
You're joking right? Ot did they retcon that too?
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Feb 15, 2017 00:31
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blood raven is the rogue and the summoner is the sorcerer. it's pretty obvious when you play since the dark wanderer is the warrior.
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Groovelord Neato posted:blood raven is the rogue and the summoner is the sorcerer. it's pretty obvious when you play since the dark wanderer is the warrior. I guess as references those are cool, but the game never talked about that, just what devils they were. For me it makes the game's world too small and tidy. E: oh you mean the minibosses? Sorry I thought you meant the main bosses Andariel and the desert slug bug, whoops. I guess those work, but one thing I really liked about Diablo 2 is that the wanderer could be interpreted as any of the heroes winning Diablo 1. Felt more mysterious that way. rockopete fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 00:40
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i mean he's a white guy and only the warrior was a white guy. and yeah it's not said explicitly that those minibosses are them but you can figure it out (i like it better that it wasn't explicitly stated in the game i mean look at my av/name).
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I understood them to be homages and not them exactly.
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Freakazoid_ posted:I understood them to be homages and not them exactly. No, Blood Raven and The Summoner were explicitly the D1 Rogue and Wizard.
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MisterBibs posted:No, Blood Raven and The Summoner were explicitly the D1 Rogue and Wizard. Explicit where? I don't remember anything like that in the D2 manual or game.
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They were both adventures who had gone to Tristram and fought in the catacombs during the events of the first Diablo. They weren't the rogue and wizard from Diablo, but they were a rogue and wizard among the many that had fought. In the same way, the Wanderer was one of the many warriors that had fought. This isn't speculation, either. Blood Raven and the Summoner explicitly fought against Diablo himself. Talking to Charsi about the "Sisters' Burial Grounds" quest:"Blood Raven was the leader of a Rogue band that once fought Diablo at Tristram." Talking to Drognan about "The Summoner" quest: "Yes... The man you speak of sounds like the mage who came here many months ago. He claimed to have fought Diablo in the passages beneath Tristram." Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Yeah, I looked this up yesterday because I never ever bothered to read the Diablo 2 flavor text, and yes, they are the characters from the original game, who went insane/evil.
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Just saw the movie a few evenings ago. I did not find it to be very shapely fiction. There were several features of the script that stuck out to me as poor (even objectively incorrect) choices which a good editor or critic should have assuaged before going to photography: -Khadgar's revelation about the Fel is handled in the absolute most amateurish, fanfiction-equse way I can imagine. This little bitch literally goes, "I know exactly what is going on here and the exposition will take two sentences but I'm going to be arbitrarily cagey because I think it will add more dramatic weight if we spend fifteen minutes of screen time (two weeks of travel by horseback) waiting to hear them from a more authoritative figure, does that sound reasonable to everyone?" Complete with stupid mega-aggressive confrontation where Midevh loses his poo poo and acts like a bullying manchild until hearing the ~big significant word~ (which sounds stupid as gently caress as a proper noun, btw) and stopping his tracks. I am absolutely certain they lifted these pages from writing I did in seventh grade. There is no possible alternative explanation. -Lothar's son is narrative detritus. Lothar has a surrogate fatherhood to Khadgar already. Emphasize that, to the extent it is necessary, but otherwise, he's a medieval Captain America. His drives are best limited to King and Country. -Garona's character is not enhanced by being a sex slave and her presence in the woods where she's captured is a plot hole. Cleave closer to the original story: She's a ward and acolyte of Gul'Dan, who protected and trained her, and she was deliberately sent to be an emissary and sleeper agent among the humans. Her character growth would then be predicated on split loyalty between the Orc who raised her and the new companions she makes among Humanity. Durotan's influence on her to start second-guessing Gul'Dan would be an affirmative victory, which Durotan needs a little more of. Making her Gul'Dan's pet has interesting implications alongside the notion that Midevh could have been her father. -By the way, that scene where Garona and Khadgar are discussing their lovely childhoods and Lothar opines, "well, that was cheerful," hits the nail on the head again for "wit as imagined by a 12-year-old." -They shoulda sacked Stormwind. Following Garona's urging in particular, the King and his armies commit everything to joining Durotan's assault. They take a long route, to outflank the Horde, on the assurance that Durotan's monopoly on mounted scouts puts him in a position to delay the Horde's progress into the human heartland. When they arrive at the staging point for the Dark Portal assault, they determine that the gambit has fallen apart. King Llane dispatches Lothar (who is totally cool, because we did away with his son dying melodrama) to return to Stormgard and try to rally a defense. He gets there in time to see that the horde has indeed re-committed to the invasion and he organizes a fighting retreat to Lorderon. Khadgar arrives (he brings boats and wizards to participate in the evacuation; nice work, kid) and they teleport away to go confront Midevh. -Midevh's motives were "I blacked out at the next thing I know we've got all this war to craft??? I dunno; my eyes are green." The confrontation in the tower is him blacking out more and the rest of him turning green, too, before Khadgar chants some nonsense from the box lady and gives him a magic enema. This is the cheapest kind of latter-day Blizzard ~Corruption~ horseshit, and it's all the worse because the story produces a ready-made motive for Midevh that connects a bunch of dots: He is deliberately collaborating to bring the Orcs through from Draenor because he is a genuinely a good person and in a position to facilitate the evacuation of a dying world. The fight in the tower should have been saturated with dialogue where he explained how he made contact with Gul'Dan, his part in the exodus, and a defense of his actions, plus a retort from Khadgar and Lothar about how even if his heart was in the right place, his actions were undertaken recklessly and unilaterally, that his plan hinged on exploiting a tainted power, that he never had complete information on the nature of circumstances, and that he needs to loving stop running off the reservation for like twelve goddamned seconds to look at the ruination he's enabled. Characterizing him in this way sets him up for his part in the WCIII story, is reconcilable with the whole Sargaras thing, and ties well with inkling that Garona might be legitimately half-human. -Durotan's political gambit in challenging Gul'Dan is incoherent. Try this instead: As in the original story, Blackhand is the nominal leader of the horde and Gul'Dan is the vizier behind the throne. Fel Magics are like a performance-enhancing stimulant; people get stronger under its effects but also more impulsive and short-tempered. Durotan calls this out specifically and laments that it disturbs a person's inner peace (along with killing the land, natch). Notably, wolves are super sketched out by it, and the Frostwolf clan is one of the only ones left that can field cavalry. Ogrim Doomhammer is torn between respect for the prosperity of Blackhand's horde and the criticisms that Durotan voices to him. He's never in on the treason with Durotan or has the opportunity to sell him out, but after conferring with Blackhand about suspicions that the Frostwolves are turning coat against the horde, Ogrim bargains for a night of peace so that he can confer with his old friend and resolve the issue; when he gets to the Frostwolf encampment, he learns that Gul'Dan has manipulated Blackhand into disbanding the wolf-raiders and trumped it up into a full purge of the Frostwolves. Durotan covers Drakka's escape, gets wounded, and that's when Ogrim finds him. Ogrim throws the dude over a wolf and they flee; once clear of the massacre, Durotan convinces Ogrim conclusively that Blackhand has lost control of himself and the horde and somebody needs to step up. They return to the Warchief's camp. The Dark Portal opens, the legions of Azeroth crash the party, Gul'Dan gets knocked out by magic backlash, and in the wake of this is when they make their move: Durotan does all the talking, delivering a rousing speech with his list of grievances and culminating in an announcement of Ogrim's challenge to Blackhand. He gives Ogrim one last piece of advice about remaining focused and letting Blackhand's Fel madness work against him; the fight plays out predictably (this is where the dude gets his testicles cut off), Ogrim carries the day, and he claims the position of Warchief. Durotan succumbs dramatically to his wounds. When Gul'Dan wakes up, Ogrim makes it clear that the warlock still has use to him, but things are going to be very loving different. The movie finishes with symmetrical depictions of Ogrim and Lothar, one of them less certain of the trajectory of this war due to the modeling of his late friend, and the other less convinced of the possibility of peace because of the death of his. EDIT: The way an Orc is so overwhelmingly stronger than a Human is okay for the movie but doesn't have a lot of play in any of the other Warcraft media and makes the quipping during the forest ambush seem pretty dissonant. I remember a bit from the first game's manual, I think? Where an Orc is reflecting on how the first warbands through the Dark Portal reported that the squishy farmers on the other side were total pushovers, but then they actually committed to an invasion and met big hunky footmen clad head-to-toe in iron plates and those guys were not loving around. It probably would have been more fun to depict that realization than the one we got of human soldiers getting perpetually opened up like tin cans while the two guys with magic meanwhile achieve literally everything worth doing. DOUBLE EDIT: During the sack of stormwind, Lothar shows up and tries to help a man to his feet from under some rubble, asks him what's up, and the guy says to him: "THE TOWN IS UNDER ATTACK!" Eikre fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Mar 18, 2017 |
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Eikre posted:Just saw the movie a few evenings ago. I did not find it to be very shapely fiction. There were several features of the script that stuck out to me as poor (even objectively incorrect) choices which a good editor or critic should have assuaged before going to photography: That is a fuckload of words about Warcraft the movie and I don't even think you mentioned how stoned Lothar was. I also don't remember Stormwind being sacked. Are you sure this wasn't some videogame induced fever dream?
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UmOk posted:That is a fuckload of words about Warcraft the movie and I don't even think you mentioned how stoned Lothar was. Yeah -- Stormwind gets its poo poo wrecked at the end of the first war / game. It would probably be a more climatic finale for the movie too, but eh. Movie was about what I expected -- enjoyable, cringeworthy in some places, and completely forgettable once you left the theater. I hope baby Moses Thrall can fend for himself on that river, because nobody is going to pick him up in the end unless the pandaren shell out enough cash and demand.
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UmOk posted:That is a fuckload of words about Warcraft the movie and I don't even think you mentioned how stoned Lothar was. Loads of words about a film in a film discussion forum, what could this mean?!
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Taear posted:Loads of words about a film in a film discussion forum, what could this mean?! I suspect he was inferring the movie doesn't rate any type of indepth review or discussion of that quality. Also, I am aware I explaining to nerds so I'll add he probably wasn't actually seriously complaining.
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Is a sequel being made? Because I would watch another movie about this video game
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toggle posted:Is a sequel being made? Because I would watch another movie about this video game It wasn't a financial success, wouldn't count on it.
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Deakul posted:It wasn't a financial success, wouldn't count on it. It made like $300mil in China alone and only cost $100mil to make, there's probably going to be a sequel.
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Duncan Jones teased a sequel is in talks on Twitter.
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Okay, it was funny the first time, but now Blizzard are just robbing us of potentially good Duncan Jones movies.
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GonSmithe posted:It made like $300mil in China alone and only cost $100mil to make, there's probably going to be a sequel. I always assumed that worldwide sales never amounted to much and they focused primarily on the domestic box office?
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