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Darth Walrus posted:Now I'm just wondering who Gundam characters would main in Street Fighter.
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There is a psychic element to the Zaku Reuse [P]. The system is a very crude early psycommu that can nevertheless get impressive results from even weak Newtypes, awakening their powers by physically integrating them with the suit. Big spoiler: It's how the South Sea Alliance became so powerful - a minor Buddhist cult leader plugged himself in, and started one of the Universal Century's first ever Newtype religions.
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Jun 16, 2017 01:48
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Is contilism a religion or just deikun's personal philosophy
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Jun 16, 2017 02:00
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3 posted:Reuse-P does not use psycommu, no. The whole deal was that they were trying to create a system that could replicate the finer control a psycommu system gives a newtype over their machine but for oldtypes; the catch is you have to saw off both your arms and legs for it to work. I don't really get why they only link someone's nerves to the machine by chopping off all their limbs honestly. Just another oddly anachronistic choice to make the central conceits of the story work/setting work I suppose, but it comes off as rather needless just to make the central antagonist more sympathetic/edgy than he really needs to be.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:07
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The amputation angle is because the living dead division were guinea pigs. Half the point of the reuse system is to allow wounded soldiers to continue fighting. By using Darryl as a quadrupalegic testbed they can confirm that the system will work regardless of the physical state of the pilot. He was able to use the system perfectly fine with both his hands still attached earlier. Presumably a mass produced reuse device would be compatible with a pilot in any physical state.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:12
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Noo? Unless it's different in the manga I recall them making reference to them hooking up the nerve endings, that's why they wanted to take his other arm so he would be maximally efficient with the device. that's also the whole imagery of his lost arms and legs returning when he's in the suit. In the latest episode they talk about the cultists being super dangerous because if the have the reuse system theres nothing stopping crazy cultists from lopping off their limbs and becoming a legion of semi-newtypes.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:25
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DamnGlitch posted:Noo? Unless it's different in the manga I recall them making reference to them hooking up the nerve endings, that's why they wanted to take his other arm so he would be maximally efficient with the device. that's also the whole imagery of his lost arms and legs returning when he's in the suit. Yeah, that was my reading of the system as well. When Daryl was testing it, they were only having him do running tests because his legs were already gone; it was only after he lost his first arm that they encouraged him to lop off the other one so they could max the efficiency of the suit. Essentially, it turns a mobile suit into a large-scale prosthesis, which is why it plugs into the same sockets as the living dead division's regular crap prostheses.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:29
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tsob posted:I don't really get why they only link someone's nerves to the machine by chopping off all their limbs honestly. Just another oddly anachronistic choice to make the central conceits of the story work/setting work I suppose, but it comes off as rather needless just to make the central antagonist more sympathetic/edgy than he really needs to be. That's how the technology was designed (as advanced prosthetics tech) and not from the ground up as a device to link pilots with their machines. If the goal is linking any ol person to s suit, certainly a less gruesome system could be made, in time, but the one in the show is built on what's her face's prosthetic research, and so in the time span they have it was expedient to just amputate and plug him in. And of course it's an excuse to be edgy that's how fiction works.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:29
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Plus this is late OYW when Zeon was running out of pilots and they needed everyone they could get shoved into a cockpit.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:33
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It's easy to see the Living Dead as precursors to cyber-newtypes. In fact, I suspect that's what they'll end up being. It's basically the same concept for the same purpose, except that cyber-newtypes are much more sophisticated, more powerful, and more recognisably human-shaped.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:44
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i thought it was because they only had The One Suit. it was a prototype: they didn't have any others, and the only way to control the arms was to have an armless person in the pilot seat (because it wasn't really supposed to be used for combat). presumably if they mass produced it, they'd have made versions that only require leg jack ins, or only arm jack ins. of course, darryl moves the arms when he's running in the test, but i figured that was the suit doing basic running motions as a result of it's ImpAtom posted:One of the early points in Gundam is the learning computer which recorded combat info and adapted the Gundam to Amuro, adjusting the movements to compensate for what it learned off his data. Later GMs used copies of Amuro's combat data. this thing, it saw that the suit was running and so its arms mimicked that. but if you wanted to tell it to pick up a gun, it wouldn't be able to, unless you could find a way to get the learning computer to figure out that you want to pick that gun up purely by leg motions. i recall the whole deal being karla's boss/fellow scientist was told "this fight's going to be desperate. we need all hands gunning. that means you, science nerds, you're going to be on the frontline" and his response was "oh god, uh, wait wait! we have a robot! there's just one, and it can only be fully manned by someone who doesn't have any limbs, but if we spent that time we could be fighting just shoving a ton of weapons onto the one robot, that'd be way more useful than having a bunch of limp wristed nerds fighting for you!"
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Jun 16, 2017 02:47
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Darth Walrus posted:It's easy to see the Living Dead as precursors to cyber-newtypes. In fact, I suspect that's what they'll end up being. It's basically the same concept for the same purpose, except that cyber-newtypes are much more sophisticated, more powerful, and more recognisably human-shaped. I'm so blown away by the animation that I keep forgetting it's taking place during the OYW, this definitely has to be connected to the seedier underbelly that wound up developing cyber-newtypes. Thunderbolt is definitely turning out to be my favorite show, I dig that grittier UC poo poo. I've only seen the first 4 episodes (first season?) and I'm telling myself to wait until the next block f episodes comes out but it's hard and I'll probably be diving in this weekend
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Jun 16, 2017 03:39
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There's three out right now and they are very good (or in any case I'm enjoying them very much). Keep in mind it's the aftermath and not so much the same thing writ large.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:44
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i watched the first episode of the new season and it was good but i ended up feeling like i'd be happier waiting to see a complete block of content. seeing the new gundam get introduced and then going "well, better wait a month or two before i get to see where this is going" kinda blows. i understand it's not going to be as tight a complete story as the first season but i'd still rather see the season as a whole, the story seems much more suited to that.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:58
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Jamaican Daninghan is a petty-rear end middle manager of a villain and he belongs in Parks and Recreation as much as Zeta.
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Jun 16, 2017 07:20
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3 posted:Reuse-P does not use psycommu, no. The whole deal was that they were trying to create a system that could replicate the finer control a psycommu system gives a newtype over their machine but for oldtypes; the catch is you have to saw off both your arms and legs for it to work. One of Daryl's buddies speculates that he might be a newtype in S1
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Jun 17, 2017 02:41
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Apparently I waited too long to check out Gundam Thunderbolt Episode 7. Is it seriously not streaming anywhere anymore?
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Jun 17, 2017 03:20
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Raxivace posted:Apparently I waited too long to check out Gundam Thunderbolt Episode 7. Is it seriously not streaming anywhere anymore? They'll bring it back up in a few months time probably. They've been limiting the new releases to stream only for about a week or two before taking them down.
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Jun 17, 2017 03:34
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When does the next Gundam TV show start
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Jun 17, 2017 03:54
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Guy Goodbody posted:When does the next Gundam TV show start Next week Twilight Axis starts.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:04
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Twilight Axis isn't a TV show.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:10
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Semantics. Apart from upcoming OVAs for Build Fighters Try and Origin, there isn't much else on the horizon.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:26
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I fail to see how it's semantics when he was asking about TV shows in particular. Twilight Axis a series of web shorts that'll probably only be a few minutes long in total. I also fail to see how 'there's none announced' is an unacceptable answer.
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EDIT You know what, gently caress it I'm not going to argue something this pointless. If he wants TV shows, he's SOL, if he wants anything else, go whole hog. Speaking of, here's a new trailer for Origin episode 5. But it's not TV, oh no. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Jun 17, 2017 04:56
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzCg0b3p54 Where is most of this footage from? The Gihren's Greed games? Cima having a breakdown after gassing the colony is really good.
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Jun 17, 2017 20:29
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Arcsquad12 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzCg0b3p54 Everywhere apparently. That specific shot is a one off from an animated radio drama.
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Jun 18, 2017 13:04
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Is there any word on how long thunderbolt s2 is going to be? I assumed it was gonna be 4 eps like the first one but after watching ep 3 there's no way they're gonna be able to have any kind of satisfying conclusion in ep 4. It still feels like they're setting up the major conflict.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:56
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Droyer posted:Is there any word on how long thunderbolt s2 is going to be? I assumed it was gonna be 4 eps like the first one but after watching ep 3 there's no way they're gonna be able to have any kind of satisfying conclusion in ep 4. It still feels like they're setting up the major conflict. The fourth episode should be a good 'end of Part One' cliffhanger. The Thunderbolt Sector was the prologue, and now we're moving into the main story. There'll probably be another four-episode block for the finale.
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Jun 19, 2017 15:01
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Gonna wait for Thundrbolt January Sea and watch it all at once
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Jun 19, 2017 16:55
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So origin is concluding with the two Loum episodes, and then it's 2018. Motherfuckers you're going to do a 0079 remake for the 40th anniversary aren't you?
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Jun 19, 2017 18:33
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And yet still no series set in UC 0179.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:29
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Arcsquad12 posted:So origin is concluding with the two Loum episodes, and then it's 2018.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:50
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The Origin should end with the two Zakus about to attack Side 7.
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Jun 20, 2017 05:42
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I always thought the general consensus was an 0079 remake in the Origin style.
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Jun 21, 2017 03:41
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all-Rush mixtape posted:The Origin should end with the two Zakus about to attack Side 7. Push it back a little earlier, and end with Char getting the mission to go investigate Side 7.
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Jun 21, 2017 14:23
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Harlock posted:I always thought the general consensus was an 0079 remake in the Origin style. I don't really know if I want Mobile Suit Gundam Crystal. You'd have two options: cut the episode count to 26, or lengthen to 52. I KNOW making it 52 episodes would never work unless they completely re-write the pacing and, I don't know, make the search for salt last for 3 episodes, but cutting to 26 episodes could make it move too fast. I've always said that I think the Gundam metaseries needs to go back to an already established, yet non-UC timeline eventually. The 25th anniversary of G Gundam is coming up.... (I was originally going to type 'I don't really know if I want Mobile Suit Gundam Kai', but then I realized that would be awesome)
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Jun 22, 2017 06:30
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... you know what, gently caress it:
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Jun 22, 2017 10:20
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Bimmi posted:... you know what, gently caress it:  I really love Mead's breakdown of the RX-78 purely for that little excited cockpit (!) note.
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Jun 22, 2017 10:38
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all-Rush mixtape posted:I don't really know if I want Mobile Suit Gundam Crystal. You'd have two options: cut the episode count to 26, or lengthen to 52. I KNOW making it 52 episodes would never work unless they completely re-write the pacing and, I don't know, make the search for salt last for 3 episodes, but cutting to 26 episodes could make it move too fast. I've always said that I think the Gundam metaseries needs to go back to an already established, yet non-UC timeline eventually. The 25th anniversary of G Gundam is coming up.... The movies disagree with the notion that it'd be too fast, tho with the way they've been doing Origin stuff so far they'd probably screen it in theaters and release them in OVA form so they could just have whatever runtime they pleased.
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Or, you know, make it three cour which would be as the bears say, just right.
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