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if the far right was dominating the internet/new media/the meme war/whatever in some dangerous way you'd expect there to be a positive relation between being in a generation that's exposed to it and being right-wing, rather than exactly the opposite. that feeling of 'wow what a dipshit' you get when you see a pepe dork going on about the Cuck News Network or whatever, everyone else gets that too. if the left has a problem it's converting the actual mass movement among younger people from mild social democracy to something more revolutionary and resilient
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walgreenslatino posted:they'll be a united front as soon as they finally settle whether or not Italians are white I wanna say five or six years ago there was an attempt by various European hard right/neo-fascist groups to convene an international conference for the defense of the West from Islam or Judeo-Bolshevism or whatever. It fragmented almost instantly over whether they should let the Poles participate, as I recall.
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 17:34 |
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mister magpie posted:we don't need left pizzagate Need, no. Want... kinda.
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 17:39 |
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mister magpie posted:we don't need left pizzagate Isn't that louise mensch or are we counting her as the centrist pizzagate?
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 17:43 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVcH6vUvKvA
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 17:48 |
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LordAbaddon posted:Isn't that louise mensch or are we counting her as the centrist pizzagate? louise mensch is literally a former tory and murdoch employee so she's basically the right as opposed to far-right pizzagate
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 18:07 |
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Peel posted:louise mensch is literally a former tory and murdoch employee so she's basically the right as opposed to far-right pizzagate She's also friends with Milo Yanananananana
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 18:08 |
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Peel posted:louise mensch is literally a former tory and murdoch employee so she's basically the right as opposed to far-right pizzagate I would normally feel embarrassed about not knowing a thing this badly but I feel like it was a good choice to know nothing about louise mensch at all beyond basic awareness about her existence
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 18:14 |
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lmao I am not surprised she knows miloLordAbaddon posted:I would normally feel embarrassed about not knowing a thing this badly but I feel like it was a good choice to know nothing about louise mensch at all beyond basic awareness about her existence much like milo she tried to reboot her career when she moved to the states, it was weird for watchers from here where she's been infamous for years and also much like milo, your attitude there is 100% the correct one
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 18:16 |
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cnn should have blackmailed him but kept it secret
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 18:19 |
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I am the communist Sam Hyde
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 18:28 |
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Louise Mensch co-founded Heat Street for Christ's sake.
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 18:58 |
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Peel posted:if the far right was dominating the internet/new media/the meme war/whatever in some dangerous way you'd expect there to be a positive relation between being in a generation that's exposed to it and being right-wing, rather than exactly the opposite. that feeling of 'wow what a dipshit' you get when you see a pepe dork going on about the Cuck News Network or whatever, everyone else gets that too. in my own opinion, the main effect the propaganda has achieved is the reduced trust in almost every institution, going as far as even questioning truth itself. i mean leftists say nothing matters because the campaign has and is succeeding. 4chan and its ilk HAVE impacted the world. reddit is the 7th most trafficked site in the US, and during the election, there were days where nothing but the donald (which was effectively run, at least initially, by 4chan) dominated the front page. the social engineering on the internet forced you to confront almost every right wing talking point even if you just used it casually. trump and surrogates embraced it almost organically as well. old started screaming bill clinton is a rapist and hillary might be ill. the pundits shook their heads because they didn't know how to respond, but it was interesting and got ratings. fact checkers didn't matter, because cynicism is intellectually dishonest and can find ways around logic. and it's fun! it's fun being the little guy, the uncaring cynic. is it fun to defend workers rights? the left has been beat at using the internet effectively. right now, leftists are resigned to aligning with the intelligence agencies and the press, who in my view, are enemies. narrative presence is still being dominated by centrist neoliberals, especially on twitter. instead, leftists should learn from the use of disinformation and use it in their favor. i think this is a controversial view, but having fascist talking points as now literally state narrative requires a response. there will always be disagreements idealogically, but the far right is effective practically. jamming the internet to increase the noise to signal ratio is brilliant. infowars has loving millions of viewers, more than CNN. being the ultimate skeptic and cynic paints idealism as quaint and outdated. having hope that human decency wins out is naive, because this really is a propaganda war and the internet is ground zero. there's a reason russian involvement happened - authoritarian governments know that the internet isn't analogous to a printing press, it's more akin to the written word - it's changed the way we know itself.
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 19:07 |
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Plutonis posted:Stirner is old news, the meme getting forced now is Nazbol Gang Get with the times! It's anti-anglo now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_coIBlxjvU
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dk2m posted:in my own opinion, the main effect the propaganda has achieved is the reduced trust in almost every institution, going as far as even questioning truth itself. i mean leftists say nothing matters because the campaign has and is succeeding. i'm not reading this because I'm sure it's stupid
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 19:20 |
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dk2m posted:in my own opinion, the main effect the propaganda has achieved is the reduced trust in almost every institution, going as far as even questioning truth itself. i mean leftists say nothing matters because the campaign has and is succeeding. The world is lovely enough and led by lovely people that we don't need to invent anything, we just turn on the news. What matters is organising against all those real things, encouraging people to recognise and rebel against their oppression and in our off hours posting funny pictures about Lenin and what animals are the most socialist.
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 19:23 |
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What kind of brain parasite makes you think we should emulate /pol/?
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 19:28 |
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Get this guys... Posting doesn't matter
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 19:31 |
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my posting matters
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 19:53 |
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2 post or not 2 post... That is the question *ponders pepe skull*
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 19:58 |
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bill clinton is a rapist imo
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 19:59 |
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The left should unironically ignore the posting wars and instead emulate the absolutely batshit right wing militia groups.
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 20:00 |
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an actual dog posted:my posting matters All posts matter Larry Parrish posted:The left should unironically ignore the posting wars and instead emulate the absolutely batshit right wing militia groups. lol if you don't think the future of everything depends on which ideology is going to be best at asymmetrical warfare.
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 20:03 |
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Larry Parrish posted:The left should unironically ignore the posting wars and instead emulate the absolutely batshit right wing militia groups.
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 20:03 |
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Larry Parrish posted:The left should unironically ignore the posting wars and instead emulate the absolutely batshit right wing militia groups. I'll bring the Kratom if u bring the rifles!
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 20:04 |
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Larry Parrish posted:The left should unironically ignore the posting wars and instead emulate the absolutely batshit right wing militia groups. The left alread knows how to hvewmlre than half its members be fed infiltrators
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 20:09 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:i'm not reading this because I'm sure it's stupid
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 20:10 |
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dk2m posted:why is there no hard counter to 4chan/8chan owning the redpill and fascist narrative. the hard right has been unified consistently, but the hard leftists are creating non-funny and non-approchable poo poo and letting centrist neoliberals take on a losing propaganda battle Unfortunately all the best leftymemes are targeting other leftists.
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 20:29 |
Did someone say leftcom memes
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 21:00 |
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Ruzihm posted:Did someone say leftcom memes rofl
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 21:16 |
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*meekly* I'm a syndicalist so thats good to me
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 21:23 |
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Larry Parrish posted:*meekly* I'm a syndicalist so thats good to me That's okay, you make the cut. I promise! *struggles to hide guillotine behind back*
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 21:27 |
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leftypol loving sucks
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 21:29 |
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Hello Leftypol
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 21:32 |
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Ruzihm posted:Did someone say leftcom memes
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 21:33 |
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/r/neoliberal is beating you guys in terms of memes which is hilarious. communism truly dead and gone.
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 21:35 |
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lol
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 21:35 |
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haha
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# ? Jul 10, 2017 21:36 |
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i tried to tell u anime catgirls vaporwave watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJwqp0IByto or just keep being irrelevant :/
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