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Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

Josuke Higashikata posted:

I can see Book!Euron being the sort of actual endgame final boss those bad leaks of the show have him being, considering he's probably got a valyrian steel jockstrap to match the valyrian steel armour he apparently has in TWOW and other kinds of crazy trinkets so him usurping power seems possible.

Show!Euron, not so much, he's almost like GRRM texted them at the last minute to say some crazy pirate dude who has item level 2000 legendary gear from the pay to win shop is going to march in and they just thought gently caress it lets just go with crazy pirate dude who is ramsay bolton on a boat.


e: missed a word or 2

Ramsay Boatin’

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Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

kcroy posted:

are you sure about that swimming part? anyway did you read the leaked script for that episode, it originally had jaime and bronn swimming up past a bunch of still living/drowning guys whose armor was pinning them to the bottom and you could see their "pleading eyes" or something. That was super awesome, so of course it got cut. :(


It'd depend on how its crafted but yes if it's not restricting your mobility too much. It's still dozens of pounds of extra weight though and it'd be hell to do for even a couple minutes.

GannerOne
Feb 25, 2014
Show-Euron is the most underwhelming 'bad guy' in a long time I think. He's neither going for the mystical character that Euron is in the book, or nailing the cool-and-wordly-viking act. It's going to be such a bummer when his ships teleport in through hellfire on the seas with Euron dropping down screaming: "Time for post-credits bossfight!"

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

well, they're convinced that the show can't function without a joffrey/ramsay type hateable wild-card figure

so they're trying to hurriedly set one up without any of the elements necessary to make it work

joffrey worked because they had plenty of source-material to draw from, because he had a whole narrative support structure to ensure that he was both loathsome and threatening, and because jackie gleeson is real good at what he does

ramsay sorta worked (even though most of the original material they made for him was dumb) because they had some source-material to draw from, they had four seasons to work with, and iwan rheon is real good at what he does

with euron there's no source-material (not gonna pretend they're even trying to adapt book euron), no time, no context or narrative support, and an actor who may or may not be good at what he does - it's hard to tell because I'm not sure what the intent is supposed to be

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.

PupsOfWar posted:

I still can't think of more than 2 prequel ideas, given that they've already ruled out Dunk and Egg

like
roberts rebellion
the dance of the dragons

then err
the war of the ninepenny kings?
the faith millitant uprising?
the first blackfyre rebellion?

I'd think they would want any prequels to be set in a period with dragons and/or magic going on, else it'd just be a period drama where the history is fake

Another option is The Doom of Valeria and the Conquest of Westeros.

I still think Robert's Rebellion is the best idea because it has the closest connection to the show. It allows them to recast younger versions of characters people already know and love. Who wouldn't want to see a well-cast, young Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon loving poo poo up across Westeros on their way to King's Landing. Not having Dragon's would be a downside but maybe not that big of one and maybe they could work them in somehow.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

PupsOfWar posted:

well, they're convinced that the show can't function without a joffrey/ramsay type hateable wild-card figure

so they're trying to hurriedly set one up without any of the elements necessary to make it work

joffrey worked because they had plenty of source-material to draw from, because he had a whole narrative support structure to ensure that he was both loathsome and threatening, and because jackie gleeson is real good at what he does

ramsay sorta worked (even though most of the original material they made for him was dumb) because they had some source-material to draw from, they had four seasons to work with, and iwan rheon is real good at what he does

with euron there's no source-material (not gonna pretend they're even trying to adapt book euron), no time, no context or narrative support, and an actor who may or may not be good at what he does - it's hard to tell because I'm not sure what the intent is supposed to be

i like the way they're trying to work together against a common enemy

and the fact that it will blow up in a literal explosion of incest and murder

Okay I don't like that, sue me.

I'd like it if things were resolved with a minimum loss of human life and the recognition that wights rights matter

And then all of the kingdoms decide they have intelligent leaders and stay out of each other's business and Dany, Jon, Cersei &c could get along

Possibly Sansa as well

SirKibbles
Feb 27, 2011

I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash. :10bux:

-Blackadder- posted:

Another option is The Doom of Valeria and the Conquest of Westeros.

I still think Robert's Rebellion is the best idea because it has the closest connection to the show. It allows them to recast younger versions of characters people already know and love. Who wouldn't want to see a well-cast, young Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon loving poo poo up across Westeros on their way to King's Landing. Not having Dragon's would be a downside but maybe not that big of one and maybe they could work them in somehow.

The Doom probably spoils too much stuff but the Conquest is a good one.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




-Blackadder- posted:

Another option is The Doom of Valeria and the Conquest of Westeros.

I still think Robert's Rebellion is the best idea because it has the closest connection to the show. It allows them to recast younger versions of characters people already know and love. Who wouldn't want to see a well-cast, young Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon loving poo poo up across Westeros on their way to King's Landing. Not having Dragon's would be a downside but maybe not that big of one and maybe they could work them in somehow.

They could probably shoehorn dragons in somehow, make Rhaegar have weird prophecy dreams or some poo poo.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

-Blackadder- posted:

Another option is The Doom of Valeria and the Conquest of Westeros.

I still think Robert's Rebellion is the best idea because it has the closest connection to the show. It allows them to recast younger versions of characters people already know and love. Who wouldn't want to see a well-cast, young Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon loving poo poo up across Westeros on their way to King's Landing. Not having Dragon's would be a downside but maybe not that big of one and maybe they could work them in somehow.

They ruled out Robert's Rebellion and Dunk & Egg.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
HBO already has a nascent show catering to racists, why not red pill rage dudes with no concept of how lovely and uncool they are who ruin everything instead of owning up to the fact that a girl is allowed to not like them?

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
The voyage of the rhoynar(lol every day they land in a new place and hosed up poo poo happens, reset each week) or "Valyria" in the style of Rome or maybe just a "meanwhile in meereen" for the rest of the series.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

or "Valyria" in the style of Rome

Yes please. Or Rome Season 3.

Or both.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

HBO already has a nascent show catering to racists, why not red pill rage dudes with no concept of how lovely and uncool they are who ruin everything instead of owning up to the fact that a girl is allowed to not like them?

I'm not sure what show you're talking about but I'm going to assume it's Bill Maher.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Ague Proof posted:

They ruled out Robert's Rebellion and Dunk & Egg.

No not Dunk and Egg!

They could get us to write it as a cop drama for free!

loving assholes

Cornflakes
Dec 3, 2006

Brienne: The Legendary Journies

Trabandiumium
Feb 20, 2010

The best season of the show/2nd best book had no dragons but if they insist they could do the dance of the dragons, it has dragons right in the name!

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Cornflakes posted:

Brienne: The Legendary Journies

Bronn: Clangin' Swords 'n' Bangin' Broads

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Show Euron doesn't work as a bad guy because he's a good guy :colbert:

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
"an army of the undead? Gee I ought to gather my forces and protect the small folk on my islands"
"What a pussy"

Tahirovic
Feb 25, 2009
Fun Shoe
It seems someone else is very happy with this season http://imgur.com/gallery/2znvW
I really like the one about the Winterfell plot, because we had bad Arya for the entire season with the only good scene being her slicing Littlefinger's neck.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013




:discourse:


also Lily is the least talented Allen by a country mile we all know that (she's still pretty talented)

Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Aug 30, 2017

kcroy
May 30, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
heard some good theories from friends and family.

I liked this one:" Bran takes over the night king, and gains control of the undead. This is important because Qyburn learned how to raise the dead, and is sending them north to kill Jon/Dany. "

I mean, they really made it look like Qyburn is up to something, didn't they? I'll bet that sneaky gently caress is up to something.

Question: I thought Theon lost his dick, not his balls too. I sort of assumed he was left with a bit of a stub. Did the crotch shot show then that he had been gelded?

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


My mother thinks Tyrion and Sansa's marriage is going to be a plot point. What is their situation in Westeros law, anyway?

Klungar
Feb 12, 2008

Klungo make bessst ever video game, 'Hero Klungo Sssavesss Teh World.'

Kavak posted:

My mother thinks Tyrion and Sansa's marriage is going to be a plot point. What is their situation in Westeros law, anyway?

It was never consummated, so it doesn't count. Alternatively, they maester who married Sansa to Ramsey would have annulled it first just like with Rhaegar and Lyanna.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Didn't most of Westeros think Tyrion was dead at that point? Or is she misremembering?

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Even if you had lost the sausage and eggs, getting kicked in the mound where your equipment used to be would still hurt a lot.

depending on how it healed (probably not well all things considered) it might be way more sensitive

Martian
May 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer
Regarding the Tyrion in the hallway scene, I just assumed he scowled like that because he just received a raven from Winterfell that explained Jon's heritage, and is trying to figure out wether or not he should barge in there to tell the lovely couple the truth. Sam and Bran are talking about how they should inform Jon, after all, and time is meaningless in the show. But I guess there is no evidence for this.

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
My best shot at the Tyrion scene is "Jon has already screwed us once due to falling in love with Dany and now those two crazy teens are gonna go at it like rabbits and make more stupid decisions" + "oh no, a Targ and a Stark banging passionately, this didn't pan out so well the last time".

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

-Blackadder- posted:

Another option is The Doom of Valeria and the Conquest of Westeros.

I still think Robert's Rebellion is the best idea because it has the closest connection to the show. It allows them to recast younger versions of characters people already know and love. Who wouldn't want to see a well-cast, young Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon loving poo poo up across Westeros on their way to King's Landing. Not having Dragon's would be a downside but maybe not that big of one and maybe they could work them in somehow.

If the spoilers are correct then they very easily set up an Arya's Creed spinoff. Which I wouldn't be surprised to see.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

IRQ posted:

If the spoilers are correct then they very easily set up an Arya's Creed spinoff. Which I wouldn't be surprised to see.

That may actually work since they'd be able to hire better actors to play Arya while she's wearing different faces.

Invicta{HOG}, M.D.
Jan 16, 2002
Even though Cersei seemed genuinely surprised and had professed the belief that these undeads were fake she somehow concocted a plan with Euron that when these undead were actually revealed to be true he would fake being scared and go get the Gold Company?

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Tahirovic posted:

It seems someone else is very happy with this season http://imgur.com/gallery/2znvW
I really like the one about the Winterfell plot, because we had bad Arya for the entire season with the only good scene being her slicing Littlefinger's neck.

This is the best.

sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land

Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:

Even though Cersei seemed genuinely surprised and had professed the belief that these undeads were fake she somehow concocted a plan with Euron that when these undead were actually revealed to be true he would fake being scared and go get the Gold Company?

I mean you kinda have to assume that at some point in the run up to this meeting one of them had to ask the question "ok but what do we do if it's somehow *not* bullshit"

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Josuke Higashikata posted:

Even if you had lost the sausage and eggs, getting kicked in the mound where your equipment used to be would still hurt a lot.

depending on how it healed (probably not well all things considered) it might be way more sensitive

I was thinking that too. I would assume there's still all kinds of sensitive nerves down there even without the ole dick and balls.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
So did anyone else find it to be absurd as hell that there were dragon remains in the Dragonpit? Like, that place could've been under guard 24/7 for the last 200 years and there's still no way in hell something as valuable as dragon bones would've still been lying around. I'd figured the bones Jon picked up were just from some random animal and not one of the last/tiny dragons but apparently that was giving HBO far more credit than they deserve.


e: Yep, I definitely gave them more credit than they deserve, going by this cut Winterfell scene:
https://io9.gizmodo.com/game-of-thrones-cut-a-scene-that-wouldve-explained-that-1798622658

Bran continues the Stark tradition of all men in the family being awful and worthless.

Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Aug 30, 2017

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
Cersei and Qyburn used Balerion's skull for target practice. I mean, it's only tits and dragons.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Evil Fluffy posted:

So did anyone else find it to be absurd as hell that there were dragon remains in the Dragonpit? Like, that place could've been under guard 24/7 for the last 200 years and there's still no way in hell something as valuable as dragon bones would've still been lying around. I'd figured the bones Jon picked up were just from some random animal and not one of the last/tiny dragons but apparently that was giving HBO far more credit than they deserve.


e: Yep, I definitely gave them more credit than they deserve, going by this cut Winterfell scene:
https://io9.gizmodo.com/game-of-thrones-cut-a-scene-that-wouldve-explained-that-1798622658

Bran continues the Stark tradition of all men in the family being awful and worthless.

yeah i thought that it was dumb. no chance there'd be dragon skull still there

Twoiism
Sep 10, 2008

Ever present.

Evil Fluffy posted:

I'm not sure what show you're talking about but I'm going to assume it's Bill Maher.

Benioff and Weiss took a long look at America in 2017 and decided the best use of their industry name value and credibility after Game of Thrones ends is to make a series where the confederacy won the Civil War. Yes really.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Intel&Sebastian posted:

HBO already has a nascent show catering to racists, why not red pill rage dudes with no concept of how lovely and uncool they are who ruin everything instead of owning up to the fact that a girl is allowed to not like them?

Young Robert takes Young Ned out hawking so that he can explain about Alphas, CoAlphas, Betas and Omegas without jon arryn hearing

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Rhgr posted:

Benioff and Weiss took a long look at America in 2017 and decided the best use of their industry name value and credibility after Game of Thrones ends is to make a series where the confederacy won the Civil War. Yes really.

This is the first I've heard what the show is actually about. Wouldn't that come off as more anti-confederacy though? To show what non-functional garbage the whole concept of the confederacy was and how if they actually got what they thought they wanted it would be a racist monstrous poo poo show and have nothing to do with states rights or whatever.

It sounds similar to Man in the High Castle, but I've never heard anyone describe that as pro-nazi.

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The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

counterfeitsaint posted:

This is the first I've heard what the show is actually about. Wouldn't that come off as more anti-confederacy though? To show what non-functional garbage the whole concept of the confederacy was and how if they actually got what they thought they wanted it would be a racist monstrous poo poo show and have nothing to do with states rights or whatever.

It sounds similar to Man in the High Castle, but I've never heard anyone describe that as pro-nazi.

Do you really think that these guys are gonna have the balls to show the true brutality of slavery when game of thrones literally has am active plot of slaves loving their new queen because she's slightly nicer than the old owners?

The inherent issue is that whatever they do will he a whitewash because the actual institution of chattel slavery was horrifying on a level that the general TV audience just won't be willing to tune in for. Django Unchained was accused of being violence porn already and that poo poo was a fairly mild depicting of slavery.

It'll inevitably just be the same Virtuous Southerner poo poo as every other piece of media about the Confederacy.

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