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Every one beneath me is sophomoric and everyone above me is pompous I am the world's only normal man
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derp posted:maybe quit being a manchild and accept that people enjoy things other than the exact things you enjoy the reason someone wants more and varied discussion of non-fiction is because they are angry that other people enjoy things they don't what
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Sep 5, 2017 18:23
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To those above me, she thinks, as she chews her bread, I am a pitiable widow, paddling in the shallows of penury; to those below, I am a pampered creature in paradise. All of us are at once objects of repugnance and of envy. All of us except the very poorest, those who have nothing below them but the sewage pit of Hell.
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Sep 5, 2017 18:25
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Guy A. Person posted:the reason someone wants more and varied discussion of non-fiction is because they are angry that other people enjoy things they don't i was replying to the anime watcher and other consistent naysayers, not you
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Sep 5, 2017 18:26
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im gonna try and hijack the history book thread but i will fail miserably because A human heart posted:it's not like this drat forum has any taste in non fiction either
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Sep 5, 2017 19:36
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I am reading the Guns of August and it is very good nonfiction
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Sep 5, 2017 19:39
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I am reading the Guns of August and it is very good nonfiction That's been on my to read list for so long I can't remember how it got there or why
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Sep 5, 2017 19:47
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Man I wanted to post in the nonfic thread too I had a lot of very specific non-history topics I wanted to inquire about recs for, I might just ask in here or start a new non-fic thread
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Guy A. Person posted:Man I wanted to post in the nonfic thread too I had a lot of very specific non-history topics I wanted to inquire about recs for, I might just ask in here or start a new non-fic thread come derail the history thread with me
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Sep 5, 2017 20:39
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Heath posted:I picked up The Book of Disquiet again. I bought it a few years ago and had to put it down because it was hitting close to home in an uncomfortable way. The book straddles this weird line between being crushingly sad and optimistic but melancholy. It's been my bus book for the past few weeks. Something that really strikes me is his seeming content in a passive role in the world, made active through his writing. Even more telling from this is that it was all found locked up in a trunk and posthumously published so the writing wasn't even couched in ambition to be an influential writer or thought-maker. In my edition there's a piece in the introduction about how Soares is closest to Pessoa in outlook, if a little more depressive or glum, but he really came across as a man content to live in his own writing world. I've tried using it at time, to take the simple satisfaction of being caught in the moment of something, and caught in thought about it. The book comes across like someone invented mindfulness in the 1930s but had no desire to turn himself into a guru, or gain fame with it. Reading it there's no way you can imagine the author being happy, but he repeatedly says that's not something he's concerned with, or that what he does is his happiness. In many ways I wonder about it as a response in privilege. A man who is contended by his life, and with little to worry about it beyond his simple day to day. Is it because of his lack of ambition that he comes across so few barriers, or is it because he has so few barriers he's content to live this simple life of writing, going to a café for wine and a meal (to conflate Soares and Pessoa in the intro,) and conjure up his rumination in writing. I know if I was him, I'd definitely want something external to justify all that I'm doing, but there's no evidence that suggests this was ever a thing for Pessoa/Soares.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:57
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Are you reading the Serpent's Tail publication? That's the one I have and I think it's the most recent one.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:39
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Heath posted:Are you reading the Serpent's Tail publication? That's the one I have and I think it's the most recent one. I am. I have about twenty/thirty pages left. I got the Penguin Classic's one from the library about two months ago, but it was a three inch thick hardback which made it a pain to carry anywhere. This is a lot slimmer, and I've been reading it on my two or three bus trips a week and taking a few pages in. It seems more of an effortless translation than the Richard Zenith one. His was trying to carry through some of the poetics and rhythm of the original I feel, and in doing so making it a little more obtuse of a read. While still poetic the Serpent's Tale version reads more like someone talking and writing to themselves, and I think it works out better for that.
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https://www.amazon.com/Book-Disquiet-Complete-Fernando-Pessoa/dp/081122693X This just came out. Unabridged version, by the same translator as Serpent's Tail, published by New Directions. Also, a cool cover.
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Sep 5, 2017 23:31
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derp posted:maybe quit being a manchild and accept that people enjoy things other than the exact things you enjoy derp's getting upset! watch out y'all!
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Sep 6, 2017 02:09
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posters on this forum like to point out that i have an anime avatar for some reason, however i have defeated them because it turns out that urusei yatsura is a great work of literature
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Sep 6, 2017 02:16
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Sir John Feelgood posted:https://www.amazon.com/Book-Disquiet-Complete-Fernando-Pessoa/dp/081122693X i posted that ont he last page but no one pays attention to me
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chernobyl kinsman posted:i posted that ont he last page but no one pays attention to me
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Sep 6, 2017 02:44
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at leas i've got you, john
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Sep 6, 2017 03:36
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Whenever I see you're user name I'm haunted by svetlana alexievich's descriptions of Chernobyl survivors and I go to a dark quiet place in my mind
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Sep 6, 2017 04:46
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Sir John Feelgood posted:https://www.amazon.com/Book-Disquiet-Complete-Fernando-Pessoa/dp/081122693X The Serpent's Tail paperback looks really good in person but it's printed on that super cheap grainy paper. The cover is on thick cardstock and has a large photo of Pessoa on the inside with foil adornments on the front and spine, so that's nice.
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Sep 6, 2017 07:09
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Book of Disquiet is really good but he's no Caeiro
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Sep 6, 2017 10:11
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fridge corn posted:come derail the history thread with me I did this
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Sep 6, 2017 19:16
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Has anyone read john banville? I found an old copy of the sea and I was wondering if he's any good
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Sep 6, 2017 21:36
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Just finished perfume by süskind which was a good read, fun parody of the romantic. Now I'm reading nostalgia by cartarescu, it's great.
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Neurophage posted:Has anyone read john banville? I found an old copy of the sea and I was wondering if he's any good i read it a few years ago, but i remember it as one of those books where a melancholy irish man thinks wistfully about things in a very literate manner. it wasn't my type of thing, but if it sounds interesting to you, it's supposed to be good for what it is
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Burning Rain posted:i read it a few years ago, but i remember it as one of those books where a melancholy irish man thinks wistfully about things in a very literate manner. People thinking wistfully about things is very much my thing, so I'm going to try it out, after i finish Perfidia. Thanks.
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Sep 7, 2017 10:39
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I read the Sea and don't remember anything about it
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Sep 7, 2017 13:09
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Read Iris Murdoch's The Sea, The Sea instead, it's obviously better, double seas
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Sep 7, 2017 13:11
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Alternatively C by Tom McCarthy which is more efficient
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Sep 7, 2017 14:32
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Nostos posted:Just finished perfume by süskind which was a good read, fun parody of the romantic. Now I'm reading nostalgia by cartarescu, it's great. I hated this book so much I threw it at a wall
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I'm reading Blood Meridian for the first time in approx. 9 years and I'm liking it much better now - I guess it helps that I'm much more used to McCarthy's style, having read Suttree and the Border Trilogy. I love how it's a lot of Are you sure, he asked. Yeah, he said. Yeah, the other replied. followed by an incredibly profound sentence with byzantine syntax and diction. McCarthy's style rules. I'm having a bit of an issue with a Nabokov I started, though - Ada, or Ardor - in that a lot of the phrases he uses and allusions he makes are flying over my head. I'll just try to power through; I made it through Ulysses and Gravity's Rainbow and clearly understood about half of each, after all, and the next time I go through those I'll hopefully have matured as a reader to better understand them - as happened with Blood Meridian this time. Chamberk fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Sep 7, 2017 21:18
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Finished Orlando and found the ending a bit mild compared to how 'out there' the rest of the book was. pretty entertaining story though. now im on 'the talented mr ripley' which maybe is not literature? it was on a list somewhere though so maybe it is. its very engaging whatever it is.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:48
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A human heart posted:urusei yatsura is a great work of literature 
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Sep 7, 2017 21:56
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I don't know anything else about that series but I watched the Beautiful Dreamer movie when I was like 14 at my grandma's house and it blew my mind out the back of my skull
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Sep 7, 2017 22:05
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thehoodie posted:I hated this book so much I threw it at a wall nostalgia? why
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Sep 7, 2017 22:38
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Comics are art sorry dweeb
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Sep 7, 2017 22:43
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the wiki is missing many key details, let us know if you have any more specific questions.
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Sep 7, 2017 22:44
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you, dumb: Manga is stupid and bad me, wise: Urusei Yagura is a uniquely feminist analysis of how women in a patriarchal society are forced to either submit as passive sex objects or weaponize their own sexuality as a tool for self-empowerment
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Sep 7, 2017 22:48
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lol at everyone jumping to the defense of a childrens comic book on the Quit Being a loving Child and Read Some Real Literature thread
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derp posted:lol at everyone jumping to the defense of a childrens comic book on the Quit Being a loving Child and Read Some Real Literature thread Selma Lagerlof won the Nobel Prize for her children's literature so congrats on being pretentious as well as ignorant
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