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The arc kinda feels like Dressrosa from One Piece. It has some good ideas and set up, but suffers from a combination of poor pacing and cramming a ton of new characters in that suddenly get a bunch of focus. The bright side is that if that arc is any indication the next one is going to be really good.
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Dressrosa was two loving years with just as much payoff (God Usopp becoming the fourth haki user, Zoro actually trying) as this arc's had (Mirio just smiling after getting shot, Kirishima, Mirio in general, PHANTOM MENACE, Suneater Rising) and this has only been like four months just including the point where Deku starts interning. Oh wait, that's more than OP...
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Oct 2, 2017 13:20
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Last Celebration posted:Dressrosa was two loving years with just as much payoff (God Usopp becoming the fourth haki user, Zoro actually trying) as this arc's had (Mirio just smiling after getting shot, Kirishima, Mirio in general, PHANTOM MENACE, Suneater Rising) and this has only been like four months just including the point where Deku starts interning. Oh wait, that's more than OP... You forgot Gear 4, the Straw Hat armada (especially the shield guy), and Senor Pink vs Franky. Maybe more.
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Oct 2, 2017 14:47
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yeah, this arc is still better. And i read the whole dressrosa arc in real time.
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Oct 2, 2017 14:54
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Zoro still hasn't tried in the New World, he hit Pika with the classic "you're a frog in a well" which isn't trying it's the manga equivalent of "u lil baby wathc this" e: This arc is pretty good but it's definitely had some slow weeks and I'm hoping for a strong finish.
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Oct 2, 2017 14:58
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everything mirio on has been really good. im really sad he's lost his quirk. nighteye is dead as hell.
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Oct 2, 2017 15:00
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I want Mirio to become the quirkless superhero Deku was originally supposed to be.
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Oct 2, 2017 15:05
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You mean the thing Horikoshi changed before the series started.
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Oct 2, 2017 15:25
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TFRazorsaw posted:You mean the thing Horikoshi changed before the series started. Yeah that.
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Oct 2, 2017 16:02
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EmmyOk posted:Zoro still hasn't tried in the New World, he hit Pika with the classic "you're a frog in a well" which isn't trying it's the manga equivalent of "u lil baby wathc this" I mean, he used visible armament haki, he completely clowned Pica doing it, but he actually had to gather his not-ki first.
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Oct 2, 2017 16:23
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I've never really gotten the insistence someone people have that Deku should have been quirkless. Not only would it result in them jettisoning a good portion of the entire plot considering One For All is gone, but it'd be an albatross that would require them having to constantly write around to have Deku not being murdered by people with superpowers. On top of that, people constantly frame it in terms of a disability narrative, because Deku not having powers is analogous to being "disabled" in the show's society and they think that giving him a Quirk means he's been fixed. Speaking as someone with something that's commonly considered a developmental disorder, this has always felt extremely patronizing, and I'm not really eager for more narratives where the "normal" people are now the ones marginalized. The only reason why I can think of why it's so prolific is that they want Deku to be even more of a character they can project on to; he's not just a fanboy getting to hang with people with cool powers, he's also a normal person just like you!!! who's totally showing the people who rely on superpowers how it's done.
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Oct 2, 2017 16:33
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I think the answer is: batman is awesome.
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Oct 2, 2017 16:36
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TFRazorsaw posted:I've never really gotten the insistence someone people have that Deku should have been quirkless. Not only would it result in them jettisoning a good portion of the entire plot considering One For All is gone, but it'd be an albatross that would require them having to constantly write around to have Deku not being murdered by people with superpowers. On top of that, people constantly frame it in terms of a disability narrative, because Deku not having powers is analogous to being "disabled" in the show's society and they think that giving him a Quirk means he's been fixed. Speaking as someone with something that's commonly considered a developmental disorder, this has always felt extremely patronizing, and I'm not really eager for more narratives where the "normal" people are now the ones marginalized. I didn't read Naruto for very long, but I remember this working pretty well with Rock Lee. He couldn't do nijutsu, but he trained his body so heavily that a lot of people just couldn't keep up with him physically. He was pretty interesting in what little I saw of him, and I think he could've worked as a protagonist for his own thing up to a point. I think it'd be kind of hard to keep up a shonen manga where the protagonist never learns any cool new magic tricks, though, even if they do get physically stronger.
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Oct 2, 2017 16:40
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Rock Lee was important all of twice, and even then, he still had what basically amounted to super powers that just worked differently from everyone else's.
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Oct 2, 2017 16:42
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I think the answer is: batman is awesome. Having infinite money and being super smart are superpowers
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Oct 2, 2017 16:47
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Batman is exactly as unrealistic as Superman, yeah.
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Oct 2, 2017 16:49
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TFRazorsaw posted:I've never really gotten the insistence someone people have that Deku should have been quirkless. Not only would it result in them jettisoning a good portion of the entire plot considering One For All is gone, but it'd be an albatross that would require them having to constantly write around to have Deku not being murdered by people with superpowers. On top of that, people constantly frame it in terms of a disability narrative, because Deku not having powers is analogous to being "disabled" in the show's society and they think that giving him a Quirk means he's been fixed. Speaking as someone with something that's commonly considered a developmental disorder, this has always felt extremely patronizing, and I'm not really eager for more narratives where the "normal" people are now the ones marginalized. In practice there are a bunch of pro heroes that mostly use their quirks in a support capacity, Gunhead for instance only uses his quirk for warning shots and manages just fine with CQC. I'm perfectly fine with what we got what between Deku's issues mastering or even becoming adequate with OFA and his relationship with All Might, but Deku using his super nerd skills to make anti-quirk weapons for all situations would have been a neat what-if. And, you know, not have worried Dekumom half to death.
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Oct 2, 2017 16:53
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I think the answer is: batman is awesome. Batman is the worst thing to happen to comics and Bob Kane should have been hit by a bus
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Oct 2, 2017 16:54
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That would have absolutely worried her to death. Now he's facing these people that can burn him, fry him, and eviscerate him with a squishy human body.
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Oct 2, 2017 16:59
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Radish posted:I want Mirio to become the quirkless superhero Deku was originally supposed to be. You've already got Knuckleduster, what more do you need?
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Oct 2, 2017 17:26
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Sarcophallus posted:You've already got Knuckleduster, what more do you need? Knuckleduster isn't a hero. 
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Oct 2, 2017 17:37
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Silver2195 posted:Knuckleduster isn't a hero. You take that back.
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Oct 2, 2017 17:42
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Silver2195 posted:Knuckleduster isn't a hero. Look into your heart and then ask yourself if Knuckleduster is a hero or not.
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Oct 2, 2017 18:37
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Knuckleduster is the greatest hero of all but he isn't showing up in MHA. I'm not saying Deku should have been quirkless. I'm saying that the original idea for that template which was scrapped early should be used on Mirio now that he is.
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Oct 2, 2017 18:44
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Yeah, I hadn't really considered the possibility of Vault Boy being the MHA Batman, especially since they actually just showed Nighteye teaching him how to predict people's movements without using a quirk. Plus, tricking him out with tech to make up for it would give us an excuse for Mei to come center stage again.  Edit: I do hope there's some kind of serious consequences for using 20% OFA, otherwise Deku's power just more than doubled with nothing more than a " Recovery Girl lecture and a few days of bed rest" slap on the wrist until he gets used to it. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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Oct 2, 2017 18:47
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PMush Perfect posted:Yeah, I hadn't really considered the possibility of Vault Boy being the MHA Batman, especially since they actually just showed Nighteye teaching him how to predict people's movements without using a quirk. Why does there need to be a consequence? He's trained, he's improved, he doesn't need to break his bones every loving time he steps up in terms of power.
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Oct 2, 2017 18:52
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Blockhouse posted:Batman is exactly as unrealistic as Superman, yeah. Name 1 (one) person who is ungodly rich, not evil and could kick someone's rear end.
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Oct 2, 2017 18:53
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PMush Perfect posted:Edit: I do hope there's some kind of serious consequences for using 20% OFA, otherwise Deku's power just more than doubled with nothing more than a " The whole point is that while this will injure himself, it's not debilitating. Eraserhead explicitly told Deku not to do anything that cause himself to be unable to move.
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Oct 2, 2017 18:55
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Name 1 (one) person who is ungodly rich, not evil and could kick someone's rear end. Also half of his gear is basically magic.
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Oct 2, 2017 19:03
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Radish posted:Also half of his gear is basically magic. You mean you don't carry a can of Carousel Reversal Spray with you at all times?
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Oct 2, 2017 19:29
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TheKingofSprings posted:Why does there need to be a consequence? He's trained, he's improved, he doesn't need to break his bones every loving time he steps up in terms of power. Fake Edit: Man, Bakugo is gonna be pissed.
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Oct 2, 2017 19:31
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PMush Perfect posted:I'd just expect a permanent upgrade to be a bit more incremental. 15% or so. The difference is mostly academic, admittedly, this is just be grousing about bullshit. This manga isn't going to go on forever and he needs to hit 100% sometime, it's 3 years in already
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Oct 2, 2017 19:35
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it could just be a kaioken power up where it still fucks him up to go this far, just not to the point where his bones evaporate like when he went all out
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Oct 2, 2017 19:43
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  Ganbatte
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Oct 2, 2017 20:24
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ I don't follow this closely enough to know what's going on with him, but I hope that he is OK. I mean, he even says he can hear his bones creaking under the stress, so obviously there's something more to what he's doing. But the full cowling is getting his entire body used to using the power instead of just on limb at a time, so it's probably easier for him to reach a bit further than usual in extreme circumstance. I think kaioken is a pretty good analogy, since Goku would still be wiped out after using it, and could only do so for a limited amount of time. But pushing that far, and even beyond, consistently enough is what got him to super saiyan levels, so being able to go 20% briefly is a big step on the way to controlling 100% completely.
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Oct 2, 2017 20:31
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He's been overseeing stuff in the anime as well, and couple that with the normally insane mangaka stress as well an incredible surge of popularity throughout the world adding even further expecations, it's no wonder he's been running his OfA on 100% for an extended period of time.
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Oct 2, 2017 20:38
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Horikoshi just has a really hosed process for writing/drawing the manga which contributes to his stress. He has a really long writing process and then storyboards and draws the whole loving chapter in a day or so. Most manga artists do the exact opposite and STILL have trouble making deadlines.
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Oct 2, 2017 22:52
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Horikoshi will have no reprieve until oda's heart literally loving explodes at his desk and jump has a direct blow to their bottom line because of their standards.
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Oct 2, 2017 23:23
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I'd rather his heart explode while he's sitting on his sweet fricken' shitter.
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Oct 2, 2017 23:27
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I don't know what to say if you think any manga artist dying while working will be a major shock for the industry instead of getting romanticized
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