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Blaze Dragon posted:This is probably worth pointing out: Welp, time to register dragonball2019-2059 and fill each site with an epic tale of Higher Dragon.
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Blaze Dragon posted:This is probably worth pointing out: Kale movie now pls
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Oct 17, 2017 05:12
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Universe 7 saiyans are the distilled essence of inferiority complexes. They're never good enough. And if they are, they're already dead.
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Oct 17, 2017 05:16
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Kashuno posted:It’s going to be Ressurection of F 2 because Freeza is getting revived after the tournament duh??? Revival of Frost. It's a really short movie.
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Oct 17, 2017 05:18
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Rhonne posted:Revival of Frost. Freeza revives Frost and convinces him that this was a long con so they could get the element of surprise and take over the multiverse together. Then as soon as Frost turns his back, Freeza laughs, calls him a dickhead, and shoots his face off. But not before telling Frost that homing destructo discs that move independently of your own will are totally sweet and work 100% of the time, no way they can ever backfire, just fire and forget and you'll win.
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Oct 17, 2017 05:23
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Blue Star posted:I honestly dont get the sense that Saiyans are a race of weaklings. Remember that even without special training and even when they were primitive, the average power level was something like 1000. Yes, power levels are bullshit, but the point is that even when they were a race of cave people who didn't really do martial arts per say (just brawled with each other with no finesse or anything, didn't know anything about ki), they were wicked loving strong. And even after they got access to technology and worked with Freeza and started fighting stronger aliens, they only did that for a few years before Freeza wiped them out. They didnt get the opportunity that the Universe 6 Saiyans did to prosper and develop a culture of their own, which is why U6 Saiyans seem like they are naturally stronger (though I dont think they are). Goku and Vegeta would have both gotten snuffed out and killed before they reached a patch on their current level of power if not for the luckiest of circumstances. They've been brought back from the dead multiple times, have received personal one on one training and assistance from gods and angels, and have benefited from fighting their way through a rogue's gallery of apocalyptic cosmic horrors. The strongest Saiyans in existence before Freeza blew up their race were complete weaklings in the greater context of their own universe despite spending literally all of their time fighting, with none of them even approaching even dorks like Zarbon and Dodoria; the Ginyu Force could have probably killed the entire Saiyan race simultaneously, Oozaru or no. Meanwhile, you have dudes like Hit and Freeza who are god-like in strength despite the thought of training apparently never occurring to them before who gain insane power boosts easily on the same level as Goku going to Namek just by applying themselves; Freeza went from "died to Trunks like a mook" to "stronger than SSB" in four months of training. Hit went from "fighting evenly with SSB" to "overpowering SSB Kaioken x10" in about 10 minutes of concerted effort. It's not that Saiyans are necessarily a race of total weaklings, because compared to humans and such, they're absolutely not. It's just that compared to the big boys of the setting we've seen they absolutely are.
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Oct 17, 2017 05:33
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Guess it could be a numbers game then, is there any left of Hit/Freeza's species that can reproduce?
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socialsecurity posted:Guess it could be a numbers game then, is there any left of Hit/Freeza's species that can reproduce? It seems like "humanity" is inherently a technological race like those guys the Saiyans wiped out, given that the strongest people who were born of two human parents are #17 and #18.
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Oct 17, 2017 05:42
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I'm hype for a Broly/Kale fusion movie where their fused form can only be defeated via the power of dance. Can Goku and Vegeta look past their differences to master the forbidden dance, lambada?
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Oct 17, 2017 05:47
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gently caress that. I want a Broly movie where he tries to kill Kale's main squeeze, and all the other saiyans just sit back and watch a world get torn apart. Just a massive loving hoss off. Shinjobi fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Oct 17, 2017 05:51
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Barudak posted:I'm hype for a Broly/Kale fusion movie where their fused form can only be defeated via the power of dance. Can Goku and Vegeta look past their differences to master the forbidden dance, lambada? They can do one better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K22vIWbRGeo
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Oct 17, 2017 05:52
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I don't think Hit has never trained. Dude's what, 2000 years old? If you're thinking of the u6/7 tournament what I think he said is he can't get physically stronger, so he relies on improving his technique. I took that to mean he's at his physical peak already.
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Oct 17, 2017 06:06
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Momomo posted:They can do one better: This is all I ever asked of the internet You can close it now, the entire internet, tia
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Shinjobi posted:gently caress that. I want a Broly movie where he tries to kill Kale's main squeeze, and all the other saiyans just sit back and watch a world get torn apart. I want this but only, and ONLY, if they find out they're actually unable to scream "KALE" and "BROLY" in their berserker rage, and so compromise by just roaring "SAAAAAHN. GOOOOOOOKKKUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!" at one another during the entire brawl
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Oct 17, 2017 06:16
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Also, having finally watched the latest episode, I can fully say it worked: I am now 100% ready for someone to beat the poo poo out of Jiren.
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I like how Jiren isn't necessarily being positioned as a villain. He's just the most freakishly strong being that we've ever seen. He's fighting for his universe the same as everyone else out there. But I don't need or want Jiren to be defeated or humbled in any way. At the same time we're now in a position where it feels like the Z Fighters are out of options. They're in an even worse position than they ever were against Buu, Cell, Zamasu, etc. I feel like we've got a Kale Ex Machina coming up, given what we've seen so far. But it is cool that Goku can absorb a loving spirit bomb and use it to boost his power level jesus gently caress.
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:I don't think Hit has never trained. Dude's what, 2000 years old? If you're thinking of the u6/7 tournament what I think he said is he can't get physically stronger, so he relies on improving his technique. I took that to mean he's at his physical peak already. I thought it was that he's physically strong as gently caress, yes, but that he never worked on improving his time stop. He got it initially, it lasted a split second, he was like "good enough". Fighting Goku, he started trying things like kiai and poo poo and actually pushing it, and discovered "oh hey, this can actually do a lot more than I thought it could" because he never put ANY effort into it.
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Oct 17, 2017 08:04
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Frieza trained for the first time in his life and within 6 months he was on a level with the gods so it's not like Hit not really putting the effort in is something out of the ordinary for this series.
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:I don't think Hit has never trained. Dude's what, 2000 years old? If you're thinking of the u6/7 tournament what I think he said is he can't get physically stronger, so he relies on improving his technique. I took that to mean he's at his physical peak already. He probably trained to learn martial arts and how to fight, since he knows how to do that, but he explicitly talks about how he never bothered to try boosting his time powers because there was never any need to. He talks a lot about growing mid-combat, Piccolo freaks out because "holy poo poo this guy can literally improve his powers that fast???", and Vegeta has a moment where he gets freaked out because Hit is beating the Saiyans at their own game of bullshit mid-battle powerups except Hit didn't need to get his rear end kicked to do it. The specific word Hit and Piccolo use to refer to what Hit is doing is seicho, which means growth, and his power up is actually extending the length of his time stop mid-fight. After the fight we see him go develop new techniques altogether, like his "hiding-in-the-time-dimension" thing. It's pretty clear that until he met Goku and had something to motivate him to improve himself he had never really bothered to train because his basic fighting skills and his initial time skip were enough to beat anyone he had ever fought.
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ProjektorBoy posted:But it is cool that Goku can absorb a loving spirit bomb and use it to boost his power level jesus gently caress. Better than that, he fell into a SPIRIT BOMB BLACK HOLE created from them both adding so much energy and force tying to push it that it collapsed in on itself into a tiny ki singularity and goddamn tore him into its gravity while he was raging out of control in SSBKKx20 like holy gently caress Goku at least you truly justified this one for once
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my wild guess is jiren is some fusion of two stupidly strong people or a ki experiment gone wrong? i cant really believe hes just a normal rear end dude who got that strong by himself arms crossed
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What Hit was getting across in his fight is that he can't suddenly just power up and become much stronger by shouting as he is not holding back that way. He also has no transformations. So the only way for him to increase his power is improvement on his abilities. Hit's a very different fighter then most Dragon Ball opponents. Relying more on a powerful ability then just being stronger then his opponent.
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MonsterEnvy posted:What Hit was getting across in his fight is that he can't suddenly just power up and become much stronger by shouting as he is not holding back that way. He also has no transformations. So the only way for him to increase his power is improvement on his abilities. It doesn't really matter if he powers up by yelling and transforming or if he powers up by magically willing his time stop to last five times longer, he's still powering up and improving himself because he never had incentive to do so before. It would be like saying Goku figuring out how to Kaioken x20 without literally dying isn't really a powerup because he's improving a technique.
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Kanos posted:It doesn't really matter if he powers up by yelling and transforming or if he powers up by magically willing his time stop to last five times longer, he's still powering up and improving himself because he never had incentive to do so before. I am just saying it's a different type of power up.
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if hit was only powering up his time stop he still wouldn't have any durability or attack to handle these tough customers
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Can't believe we are getting a dragon (base)ball movie starring yamcha
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Kashuno posted:Can't believe we are getting a dragon (base)ball movie starring yamcha Official Leaks - here are the upcoming movies: Deliver!!! Monaka's Super Perfect Delivery Record in Jeopardy! The Ultimate Home Run! Yamcha is The Savior of Earth! This is the Final Great Battle! Return to Driving School - Piccolo VS Goku! All 3 are canon and I have written them all in my head (Toriyama please hire me).
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If we don't get a canon "Goku and Piccolo learn how to drive" episode in Super I'll be very cross at Mr. Toriyama.
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Dias posted:If we don't get a canon "Goku and Piccolo learn how to drive" episode in Super I'll be very cross at Mr. Toriyama. Didn't we see piccolo drive in Super? At the very least we saw them drive in the manga
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All you have to do is believe that episode happened and it happened.
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Kild posted:Didn't we see piccolo drive in Super? At the very least we saw them drive in the manga We saw them playing a version of Mario kart in the manga. Complete with vegeta screaming about he will beat Goku, followed by failing.
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OB_Juan posted:Chichi would never stand for it. She can stop Goten, but both Mister Satan and Gohan are super pumped about Pan becoming the strongest in the universe and Videl doesn't have the personality to have an opinion one way or another. Also my wish for a new movie would be a spin-off starring the U6 saiyans. I doubt it'd happen but it would be neat. fake-edit: Also my impression of Hit was less that he never trained and more that he's been the apex fighter of U6 for so long that it's been centuries since he last put effort into self-improvement. It's kind of a thing in Dragon Ball that you don't reach new heights until you realise that a new height even exists to reach for.
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Again, Dr. Gero is the only DB character who didnt just stagnate at his opponents power level. He sat down and was like, if Im going to kill Son Goku I am going to build death machines so out of his league and capable of getting even more powerful that there is no way him or any of his stupid friends can stop me unless a tiny bird flaps its wings at his son.
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Dias posted:If we don't get a canon "Goku and Piccolo learn how to drive" episode in Super I'll be very cross at Mr. Toriyama. We see Goku driving in the original manga (not Super), and he clearly must've learned how to drive somewhere, so that episode is 100% canon. It's just not shown in the manga because stillness and lack of colour would not be fitting to such a masterpiece, clearly.
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Kashuno posted:Can't believe we are getting a dragon (base)ball movie starring yamcha Just do that Simpsons softball episode, but with Yamcha.
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Rhonne posted:Just do that Simpsons softball episode, but with Yamcha. Someone please post that fanart pic.
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Blaze Dragon posted:We see Goku driving in the original manga (not Super), and he clearly must've learned how to drive somewhere, so that episode is 100% canon. It's just not shown in the manga because stillness and lack of colour would not be fitting to such a masterpiece, clearly. What we didn't see was the horrific wreck 5 seconds later
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CharlestonJew posted:What we didn't see was the horrific wreck 5 seconds later Saiyan driving skills work like their fighting skills, the only problem is the horrific loss of life that results in the process.
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Arc starts with Goku unable to make a right turn, crashes, goes to hospital and comes back able to instant shift transmission.
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Barudak posted:Arc starts with Goku unable to make a right turn, crashes, goes to hospital and comes back able to instant shift transmission. Look man We're already in a pretty bleak and doomed timeline Do NOT make it worse by crossing us into the one where Super Saiyan GT 500 is a thing
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