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Funny you should be talking about made up fan bullshit. I just invested way too much time in thinking about how Ki and Power Levels work: https://addermoray.tumblr.com/post/166526515869/the-unified-theory-of-ki
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So I finally finished the Black Goku arc. If the Evil Containment Wave is so effective, then why didn't they use it during past battles?
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Oct 18, 2017 06:49
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I finally finished the Black Goku arc. If the Evil Containment Wave is so effective, then why didn't they use it during past battles?
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Oct 18, 2017 07:01
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The Mafuba also requires actual setup, as you saw what happened when Zamasu broke out because Goku left the seal on the toilet It’s an effective but high maintenance technique
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Oct 18, 2017 07:12
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I'm also PRETTY sure they forgot about it Though yeah, with Freeza, they never had the materials needed. With Cell, he'd know how to counter it. Buu would likely just scream his way out
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Oct 18, 2017 07:14
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Nessus posted:Most of their enemies were not evil ghosts Zamasu and Black were ghosts?
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Oct 18, 2017 07:24
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punk rebel ecks posted:Zamasu and Black were ghosts? Gods/Spirits same deal.
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Oct 18, 2017 07:39
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mafuba works on everyone; it worked on loving turtle. also it has less setup than the spirit bomb with better returns toriyama thought it would be cool or someone else reminded him it existed and he went "o yea" and they added it in. if it bothers you, I guess you could rationalize it as people deciding it was useless after piccolo reversed it on kami?
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Oct 18, 2017 08:13
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I mean we have a perfectly canon reason Goku, Vegeta, and all goddamn saiyans save Trunks have a death wish to punch their foes down instead of using the Sensible Victory Button
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Oct 18, 2017 08:31
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Manatee Cannon posted:mafuba works on everyone; it worked on loving turtle. also it has less setup than the spirit bomb with better returns Raditz: Took them by surprise, was so strong Goku going all out couldn't match him; Roshi or Tien might've tried if Raditz had gone to clear off other high-ish power levels I guess Nappa and Vegeta: Crushingly powerful, and there were two of them; until Goku showed up, all they would've done is shocked Vegeta or Nappa, who would have probably proceeded to kill them all and break the jar. Freeza and his goons: Tien was dead, Roshi was on Earth. Androids: Did Tien even show up for them? Also, they're robots. Cell: Tien's ultimate suicide attack barely stalled Cell, he didn't have time to set up Buu: Nobody called Tien, and he was barely able to dodge the Human Extermination Attack.
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Oct 18, 2017 08:31
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I feel like Super tried to address this too by having Frost figure out the Reverse Mafuba on the spot.
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Oct 18, 2017 08:34
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Using the Mafuba on Buu seems like a tremendously bad idea, and I can't articulate why
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Raxivace posted:I feel like Super tried to address this too by having Frost figure out the Reverse Mafuba on the spot.
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if they thought the mafuba was a worthwhile thing to use, someone would have learned how to do it between king piccolo dying and zamasuRaxivace posted:I feel like Super tried to address this too by having Frost figure out the Reverse Mafuba on the spot. he does but only after it fails once. so as long as you get it in one try, you're set for anyone
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Oct 18, 2017 08:40
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god damnit Nappa
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Oct 18, 2017 10:27
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWSh53XbOxA watch the gently caress out Jiren...
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Oct 18, 2017 10:48
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fighterz is getting ginyu & nappa now too http://gematsu.com/2017/10/dragon-ball-fighterz-launches-february-1-japan-adds-nappa-captain-ginyu
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Oct 18, 2017 11:04
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Cell had all of their techniques, so he probably knew Piccolos anti-mafuba already. Something tells me that trapping Buu in a jar isn't going to work. But mostly, this is a fightmans manga about punchmans, so a fight isn't going to end on some magic trick.
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Oct 18, 2017 11:29
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Having the Ginyu Force as strikers was all I needed to hear. New GOTY.
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Burkion posted:I'm also PRETTY sure they forgot about it This basically. Buu has been alive since time immemorial, and unlike the people who go through mafuba and are highly traumatized, Buu would probably just be like ":D NOPE!"
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quote:New playable characters Nappa and Captain Ginyu are also revealed. Nappa can summon Saibamen and use the Meteor special attack “Kappa!” Captain Ginyu has a technique that summons The Ginyu Force, and can use the Meteor special attack “Body Change” to switch characters and HP with his opponent..You can also deepen your bonds with characters. If your bonds are deep enough, you will be able to hear private conversations, such as Yamcha saying, “I want to get married!” or Vegeta saying, “Bulma has a nasty personality…”
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Oct 18, 2017 12:51
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Wuxi posted:Cell had all of their techniques, so he probably knew Piccolos anti-mafuba already. Something tells me that trapping Buu in a jar isn't going to work. Buu is magic, so it wouldn’t work. Because magic.
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Oct 18, 2017 13:53
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Also, uh, using it successfully kills you. So there's that noggin'.
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Mordaedil posted:Also, uh, using it successfully kills you. No, it doesn't
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Oct 18, 2017 14:15
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Mordaedil posted:Also, uh, using it successfully kills you. It *can* kill you, but it doesn't necessarily. It takes a lot out of you, at least, which is why it's a bad idea to use it if there's a chance you could gently caress it up. Goku.
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Oct 18, 2017 14:34
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Black August posted:Using the Mafuba on Buu seems like a tremendously bad idea, and I can't articulate why the fact he could learn a technique just by witnessing it once is a good reason.
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Oct 18, 2017 14:37
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Mordaedil posted:Also, uh, using it successfully kills you. Roshi used it like 4 times in the span of 5 minutes and he's fine.
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Oct 18, 2017 14:39
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that possible movie people were talking about, I bet it's a movie adaptation of the Goku Black arc.
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Oct 18, 2017 14:56
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mabels big day posted:that possible movie people were talking about, I bet it's a movie adaptation of the Goku Black arc. While Dragon Ball Super being an infinite ouroboros of movie and tv versions of events is amusing on paper, this would be pretty disappointing.
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deadly_pudding posted:While Dragon Ball Super being an infinite ouroboros of movie and tv versions of events is amusing on paper, this would be pretty disappointing. I remember after the Goku Black arc aired, someone mentioned that the structure and pacing felt like a stretched out movie, like they had planned on it as the third movie but Super caught up to that content before they actually made it. In the movie, they will play mario kart at the beginning, they'll only go back and forth in time like once or twice instead of however many times in the anime they did. There won't be any plot about the evil containment wave, it will just feature Goku and Vegeta fusing, and the spirit bomb sword from Trunks. And of course, they'll still keep the Zeno universe reset. No Yajirobe either.
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Oct 18, 2017 15:08
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mabels big day posted:No Yajirobe either. why do you want to ruin it
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This game is going to be so good
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CharlestonJew posted:Roshi used it like 4 times in the span of 5 minutes and he's fine. I mean, that is what the situation was prior to Super. I dunno if they forgot or if they just surpassed it being capable of killing them, but it's certainly plausible reason enough for them to not use it for so long.
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Mordaedil posted:I mean, that is what the situation was prior to Super. I dunno if they forgot or if they just surpassed it being capable of killing them, but it's certainly plausible reason enough for them to not use it for so long. That was not the case prior to super. Kami used it on Piccolo explicitly intending to capture him without comitting suicide. It's the first time the Reverse Wave is used
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It's probably just a case of "this move takes a shitload of energy to use", so if you're not that powerful it just loving kills you but if you're powerful enough it simply tires you the gently caress out.
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In other games, Xenoverse 2 announced yet another DLC Pack, this time with Android 13 and Tapion as playable characters, Ribrianne and Pride Trooper outfits (the latter includes Toppo's moustache), and most interestingly, a whole new game mode where you control pieces based on the characters in a board.
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Oct 18, 2017 15:36
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ImpAtom posted:That was not the case prior to super. Kami used it on Piccolo explicitly intending to capture him without comitting suicide. It's the first time the Reverse Wave is used It is difficult to know if he would have died at the end, but in that case, I guess Kami actually invented a better version of the mafuba?
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Mordaedil posted:It is difficult to know if he would have died at the end, but in that case, I guess Kami actually invented a better version of the mafuba? He wouldn't have. Kami explicitly says the used this technique because if he killed Piccolo he'd die too and it was a way to get around it.
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It has been a long rear end time since I watched it, but didn't Tien use it and not die vs King Piccolo?
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