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Immanentized posted:Their sales point at a wholesale level enables them to afford a wide distribution of price points past the individual vendor. That coupled with the fact that they offer a wide variety of sub-product and stuff like paints, brushes, rule books, supplements and the like gives them an easy market capitalization. Consider this with the fact that the product arm is made up of enthusiasts and the corporation is a major, major player in a niche industry for 30ish years and you have a productive business model.
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THE RAGGY posted:I've always liked the idea that the Emperor crafted each primarch to have different strengths and purpose. It has always felt to me like Leman Russ and the wolves were bred to put down other legions, to terminate them if poo poo went wrong. They weren't called the Emperor's Executioners for nothing.
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Groetgaffel posted:They weren't called the Emperor's Executioners for nothing. And he implied to Bjorn that the Wolves were used to destroy the II and XI legions, whose survivors were then absorbed by the Ultramarines.
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Cythereal posted:And he implied to Bjorn that the Wolves were used to destroy the II and XI legions, whose survivors were then absorbed by the Ultramarines.
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Alternative pants posted:I just discovered Do you realize how silly this sounds? Did you walk into the bookstore next door and see that they charged almost 30% more for their books than Amazon, too? Crazy, huh? It's almost like online retailers can afford thinner margins because they don't have the costs associated with a static location... Top tip: You can get at least 15% off shopping through Ebay instead. They stay in business because they are the only one who sells you that product. You can't get Space Marine Terminators or Eldar from anyone else. They produce a specific product and people want to purchase it. And GW is always going to charge full price - why would they charge a discount on its own product and undercut the independent brick and mortar retailers?
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Quit stinking up the lore talk. Go talk about brick and mortar bullshit in the death thread. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3820183
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No one should ever read the unhealthy obsession thread.
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Groetgaffel posted:Which might help to explain why the XIII's geneseed is the most stable in the 41st millennium; they've pulled genetic material from a much larger pool, and quite possibly might be natural blend of three different sets of geneseed that melded naturally over time as opposed to AdMech haphazardly mashing a bunch of them together all at once, which led to the cursed founding. I've never considered that, it's a really good point. I'd love to see a bit more material on the expunged legions all the same.
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THE RAGGY posted:I've never considered that, it's a really good point. I'd love to see a bit more material on the expunged legions all the same. I'm sure we'll get a 15-book series in a few years.
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 Also, BRO TRIP 40,000: A Tale of Two Primarchs - Episode : Cata-can Capers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDFwgOFYF-M I don't know anything about Sly Marbo but I think anything I find on Lexicanum or whatever would ruin the magic. 
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In hindsight, that was a stupid as hell thing to post. Getting back to the lore, I just finished rereading the Void Stalker and was wondering if the Night Lords get any real mention in the material following the Fall of Cadia.
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Alternative pants posted:In hindsight, that was a stupid as hell thing to post. Getting back to the lore, I just finished rereading the Void Stalker and was wondering if the Night Lords get any real mention in the material following the Fall of Cadia. The night lords as a fallen legion are out and about in various spots in the current lore but their new prophet hasn't gotten a mention I don't think.
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Alternative pants posted:In hindsight, that was a stupid as hell thing to post. Getting back to the lore, I just finished rereading the Void Stalker and was wondering if the Night Lords get any real mention in the material following the Fall of Cadia. Not yet. There is a small part of the fan base asking for a deciumus book or trilogy.
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MariusLecter posted:
More like enhance it. Rambo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMNWAJiz5Y
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Vadoc posted:More like enhance it. Rambo Huh, what do you know! This was in the suggested videos too; 40 Facts and Lore on Sly Marbo Warhammer 40k
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So I've got a new audible credit and some mindless stuff to do in a week or so and an audiobook would be a welcome distraction. So I fancy some non-astartes focused stuff, specifically. Watchers of the Throne (I've already read the Carrion Throne) or The Horusian Wars. Any recommendations which?
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Deptfordx posted:So I've got a new audible credit and some mindless stuff to do in a week or so and an audiobook would be a welcome distraction. I'd say that the first Horus Heresy book by Abnett is better than Watchers of the Throne, which btw isn't that similar to the Carrion Throne. But it sorta depends on if you want to catch up a bit with the current storyline of 40k or start slogging through 42(so far) books about space marines.
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No, no, no. I am fully up to speed on 40k/Heresy stuff. I am basically Black Librarys bitch at this point. I was talking about choosing from the recent releases which I hadn't got around to yet.
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Deptfordx posted:No, no, no. I am fully up to speed on 40k/Heresy stuff. I am basically Black Librarys bitch at this point. I was talking about choosing from the recent releases which I hadn't got around to yet. Ah. I haven't read the later Heresy books so idk about them.
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I think the point of confusion is that the Horusian Wars is another entirely separate series from the Horus Heresy. I haven't read the, so I have no clue about their quality.
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Deptfordx posted:No, no, no. I am fully up to speed on 40k/Heresy stuff. I am basically Black Librarys bitch at this point. I was talking about choosing from the recent releases which I hadn't got around to yet. Horusian wars was OK, like a thinner version of Ravenor/Eisenhorn focusing on the inquisition forming into weirder factions. Carrion Throne was decent, Watchers better.
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The Rat posted:I think the point of confusion is that the Horusian Wars is another entirely separate series from the Horus Heresy. I haven't read the, so I have no clue about their quality. Oh, I had no idea. It sounds kinda dope though.
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Immanentized posted:Horusian wars was OK, like a thinner version of Ravenor/Eisenhorn Yeah, if they'd put Ravenor on audible yet I'd snap it up, but I suspect BL having recently acknowledged the most popular audiobook site in the world exists, is still going to still try some nonsense with releasing stuff first on their site where they can price gouge, then release them on Audible a few weeks/months down the line.
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THE RAGGY posted:I've never considered that, it's a really good point. I'd love to see a bit more material on the expunged legions all the same. Eh. I'd like more hints and references, but in all honesty nothing GW could come up with would meet expectations through no fault of their own.
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It would be amazing if the missing two were destroyed out of jealousy for being greater than the Emperor himself.
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The Iron Rose posted:Eh. I'd like more hints and references, but in all honesty nothing GW could come up with would meet expectations through no fault of their own. You're right. It would be like getting that hot girl from work to go home with you before finally unwrapping and realising it's all wonderbra and spanks.
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moths posted:It would be amazing if the missing two were destroyed out of jealousy for being greater than the Emperor himself. Boom, point made. I would hate that revelation because I like the idea that two primarchs of varying degrees of hosed are still out there somewhere and somehow. Like, I'm sure with a good writer they could do a decent book series about it but it'd inevitably disappoint everyone who had their own... headcanon, I guess the word would be. Best to just keep leaving ominous hints, I think.
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Wasn't there some weird theory about one of the lost Primarchs being the all powerful dude from the Warhammer universe? and that their world was lost in the eye of terror?
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There was a running theory that Sigmar was one of the lost Primarchs, as the day he was born was when the twin-tailed comet flew across the sky, he was supposed to tower over other men and he unified the tribes of man into a single empire, and after ruling for 50 years he marched off to the mountains to the east of the kingdom and was never seen again, and ascended to godhood in the mountains. If you assume that the twin-tailed comet was actually a ship crash-landing and he was found instead of born, and that the Warhammer Fantasy setting is in the eye of terror, the rest kinda matches up with other Primarchs? It's not canon, but I like it as a theory because it helps explain where/why Chaos randomly popped up in the history of the Fantasy setting.
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The Iron Rose posted:Best to just keep leaving ominous hints, I think. Ultimately, you're right. Unless it's something mind-blowing awesome, any revelation is going to feel tacked on. Given how each Primarch represents some aspect of the Emperor, it follows that the missing two would represent something within himself that he is ashamed of, or causes him disgust or embarrassment. Or something he needed to suppress to achieve what he did. It would be a peek directly into the psyche of the God Emperor in his prime, which feels like overexplaning. There's a good story to be told about how deleting two aspects of his person sparked the imbalance that fostered the Heresy, but I'm not going to be the one to tell it.
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Warhammer Fantasy had some pretty blatant crossover with 40k back in the 4th edition/Rogue Trader era. It was phased out over time, but you could legit have a Chaos Lord on a dragon waving a multi-melta around.
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I did like that one fan-fic thing where one of the lost Primarchs was sent off to fight the tyranids in their home galaxy. They manage to kick their asses using dark age tech and found a second imperium without any of the issues the main one does. Now the tyranids are swarming into our galaxy because they are running from the Primarch chasing them around.
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One of the Horus Heresy black books, Inferno I think, heavily implies that at least one of the two lost legions was destroyed after being compromised by a race of mind-controlling xenos.
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Yeah during the earlier days when copyright in gaming companies was a thing they'd worry about if they survived their first year GW just straight up yoinked Grell from D&D.
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Trast posted:I did like that one fan-fic thing where one of the lost Primarchs was sent off to fight the tyranids in their home galaxy. They manage to kick their asses using dark age tech and found a second imperium without any of the issues the main one does. Now the tyranids are swarming into our galaxy because they are running from the Primarch chasing them around. Haha I know exactly which one you're thinking of and had it in my mind this entire conversation. That's the other thing though. Explicitly spelling things out ruins otherwise fantastic fics like that.
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