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Eliminators is worth a watch, it's a decent Adkins "agent vs assassin" type movie, it's not wall to wall action and no real large scale shoot outs but it has some good fight scenes and is a fairly well made movie overall e: while on the subject also his recent Hard Target is a pretty good jungle action movie, the action leans towards over the top but it's a fun movie and Jarhead 3 is a half-decent war shoot em up, packed with military style shootouts. it looks fairly cheap and none of it is particularly spectacular but if you're not very demanding of your action movies it's worth a watch Wandle Cax fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Jan 27, 2018 |
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Thank you all for the suggestions. I should also probably mention that I think Cinemax’s Strike Back and Banshee have some of the most fun and engaging action beats around. On that note, has anyone seen Renegades with Sullivan Stapleton?
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Combatace posted:I should also probably mention that I think Cinemax’s Strike Back and Banshee have some of the most fun and engaging action beats around. Speaking of, have you seen the new series of Strike Back? It feels like it's trying way too hard to capture the Stapleton/Winchester chemistry, with one of the leads being a total Stapleton ripoff. It's still watchable in a video game cutscene/"this is cool on a cable TV budget" kinda way.
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Yeah the new Strike back is decent enough but of course it doesn't capture the spirit of the Scott and Stonebridge adventures. In terms of Sullivan Stapleton I actually really like Blindspot. It's got it all, action, mystery, threat of mass death by terrorism narrowly thwarted every single week, and all the Sullivan Stapleton and Jaimie Alexander you could ever need
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I haven’t seen the new Strike Back yet. I think it airs next week in the US? I was cautiously interested in it when it was announced considering how the finale tied together so many loose ends and felt really final, but once I realized how hard they were pushing the “new team, same attitude” angle I got really discouraged. Scott and Stonebridge’s relationship as operator buddies happens organically and naturally over time. It reminds me of a Strike Back cover band. Sounds pretty familiar and looks kind of the same. Who am I kidding though, I’ll still watch it religiously. Blindspot sounds right up my alley. I’ve been needed a new show and I’ve definitely been needing some Sullivan Stapleton.
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Has anyone seen the new Kickboxer (not to be confused with Kickfighter) movie yet? It seems to be getting a some positive early reviews so far, but sadly I don't think it's going to be showing it around here.
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I've watched the first Transporter movie. The action scenes are all very fun though the bits in between are somewhat humdrum. That being said, I thought it was dragging a bit towards the end, but then Jason Statham covers himself in oil so he's too slippery for the bad guys he's fighting to grip and that was fantastic, then uses pedals he broke off a bicycle as makeshift cleats so he can keep his footing. Honestly, one of the funniest scenes I've seen in a movie recently.
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I loving love Con Air as a dumb as poo poo 90's action movie but it loses a letter grade for the cheesy loving butt rock guitar throughout the film. I hate it.
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Yaws posted:I loving love Con Air as a dumb as poo poo 90's action movie but it loses a letter grade for the cheesy loving butt rock guitar throughout the film. I like the part where Cage's friend is close to death and gives a touching final words esque thing about how he doesn't even believe in God anymore and how his life is coming to an end and so on it's almost actually dramatic and then Nicholas Cage mumbles out "imgonnashowyouthatGoddoesexist" and he just walks across the plane owning everyone and doesn't even flinch when shot. Also  O'Brien can't catch a break even in a different movie.gently caress it Con Air is amazing and superior to The Rock.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've watched the first Transporter movie. The action scenes are all very fun though the bits in between are somewhat humdrum. That being said, I thought it was dragging a bit towards the end, but then Jason Statham covers himself in oil so he's too slippery for the bad guys he's fighting to grip and that was fantastic, then uses pedals he broke off a bicycle as makeshift cleats so he can keep his footing. Honestly, one of the funniest scenes I've seen in a movie recently. I rewatched the first one last night because we were talking about in the thread and I just finished the third one tonight. It's too bad the first one is the best. But yeah the oil scene is amazing. "So you're telling me you like watching this Jason Statham movie where he gets topless and covers himself in oil and then roughhouses with a bunch of men who are trying to grab him...?" "Nah honey it's not like that, he jumps on a bicycle and breaks off its pedals so that... Ah whatever, it's 2018. Don't kinkshame."
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Neo Rasa posted:I like the part where Cage's friend is close to death and gives a touching final words esque thing about how he doesn't even believe in God anymore and how his life is coming to an end and so on it's almost actually dramatic and then Nicholas Cage mumbles out "imgonnashowyouthatGoddoesexist" and he just walks across the plane owning everyone and doesn't even flinch when shot. Another thing I kinda hate about Con Air is Danny Trejo character Johnny 23. 23 because that's the number of women he's raped. uuughhhh. Maybe Con Air sucks..?
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Yaws posted:Another thing I kinda hate about Con Air is Danny Trejo character Johnny 23. 23 because that's the number of women he's raped. uuughhhh. Of large Nicholas Cage action films of that time I'd say: Face/Off | | | | | | | Con Air The Rock
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Neo Rasa posted:Of large Nicholas Cage action films of that time I'd say: I could watch Face/Off once a month until the day I die and never get tired of it. Just look at Castor Troys guns!:  
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Yaws posted:I could watch Face/Off once a month until the day I die and never get tired of it. Just look at Castor Troys guns!:
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Now I gotta decide whether to watch Con Air or Face/Off tonight
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Wandle Cax posted:Now I gotta decide whether to watch Con Air or Face/Off tonight Face/Off is orders of magnitude better than Con Air.
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After running the Lethal Weapon series with my wife (her first time seeing all of them) and agreeing on ranking them 2 > 4 > 1 > 3, tonight I introduced her to the flawless glory of Die Hard. I'm proud to say she loved it and credited it as one of the best action movies she's ever seen. She also loved our recent binge-watch of Justified, and we just started Banshee together. And when we met back in 2006, she didn't watch action movies and figured they were all stupid and worthless.
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How uh, how do you rank Lethal weapon 4 above 1
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4 was funnier, had a much bigger budget and looked better, and I preferred the action set pieces: the fight in the trailer on the highway with Murtaugh driving behind it, and Riggs and Murtaugh versus Jet Li at the end. Liked those more than Riggs versus Gary Busey on the Murtaughs' lawn in the rain with the entire police department watching. Plus, I like the two of them settled into old patterns as friends and partners, whereas people forgot how much time was spent in 1 with them being pissed at each other. She agreed with all that, plus she preferred centered Riggs with friends and family, rebuilding his life, to suicidal Riggs. Big Bad Voodoo Lou fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jan 28, 2018 |
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Yaws posted:Another thing I kinda hate about Con Air is Danny Trejo character Johnny 23. 23 because that's the number of women he's raped. uuughhhh. iirc he doesn't actually rape anybody in the movie and gets owned very quickly though, so while Not Great it's... honestly better than a lot of other action movies in that regard
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Con Air has a lot of problematic poo poo in it. The aforementioned Johnny 23, the painfully stereotypical gay inmate, the “maybe not the movie for this” racial elements. And then there’s Steve Buscemi’s character arc, which is a serial killer that “wore a woman’s head as a hat” through multiple states, has a tea party with a little girl in what appears to be a post-apocalyptic trailer park, and somehow becomes redeemed enough by not slaughtering her that he eventually acts as the comedic button that the movie closes on. That being said, it’s still an immensely entertaining piece of work. And I think the credit for that goes exclusively to Cage as the protagonist. It’s, objectively, a performance of quirks: the stringy hair, deadpan humor, and a “you’re guess is as good as mine” southern drawl that, at its worst becomes a parody of a stroke victim. But it’s easy to forget that Nic Cage has legit presence, especially thanks to his movie choices over the past couple of years. But it’s on display in fully glory in Con Air as he spinkicks the soul out of various bodies to slide guitar wailing. In a very muddy movie, he remains a buoy to hold onto, and arguably the only real reason it works at all.
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He's so awesome. I forget, was the Gone in 60 Seconds remake a huge flop? I never even saw it. I mean I know he'll do any movie and loves to gamble/buy warehouses full of comic books but I remember even in the early 00s wondering why he wasn't in big action stuff anymore. I kind of wish Next had a better director and bigger budget honestly. That's the one where he can predict the next two minutes of his future and is on the run from the government represented by Julianne Moore basically reprising her turn as Clarice Starling in Hannibal. Like, that's a movie that would have been amazing if it had more money and more people making it gave a poo poo. Season of the Witch is another one. A movie where Nicholas Cage and Ron Perlman are crusader bros who have to escort a dangerous witch on a road trip through plague ridden medieval times to a special church where she can be destroyed but she's manipulative and takes every opportunity to pick their team off one by one before they actually get there and the final plot revelations/endgame happens. Somehow Season of the Witch is boring as poo poo.
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Neo Rasa posted:He's so awesome. Financially it did well (~$240m total gross on a ~$90m budget) but it just wasn't a very interesting movie.
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You guys talking about Nicolas Cage? Cause this is horror, not action, but distressingly few people know that this is a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPVicWnq_BU
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I wonder if Cage coming off the Oscar for Leaving Las Vegas and going into movies like The Rock and Con Air was seen as odd by audiences in 1996. For comparison, imagine if Taken had been the next movie Liam Neeson starred in after Schindler's List. Or how Kate Beckinsale was known for being in costume dramas and Shakespeare films for a decade, but is now better known for Underworld movies. I suppose even Charlize Theron counts after Fury Road and Atomic Blonde. There was an announcement a while back that Bob Odenkirk will be starring in a John Wick-style action film. Which non-action people would you most enjoy in action movies? My vote would be for Naomi Watts.
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Neo Rasa posted:I kind of wish Next had a better director and bigger budget honestly. That's the one where he can predict the next two minutes of his future and is on the run from the government represented by Julianne Moore basically reprising her turn as Clarice Starling in Hannibal. Like, that's a movie that would have been amazing if it had more money and more people making it gave a poo poo. You could be describing either Next or Hannibal there. 
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Wheat Loaf posted:There was an announcement a while back that Bob Odenkirk will be starring in a John Wick-style action film. Which non-action people would you most enjoy in action movies? My vote would be for Naomi Watts. Oh, I'd love that. I'd go with Kate Winslet.
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On a similar note, the stupid movie Cat Run has Janet McTeer playing as a giant Mary Poppins-esque international assassin
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Wheat Loaf posted:You could be describing either Next or Hannibal there. Say what you will about Hannibal (both the Ridley Scott film or the TV series) but I would never accuse either of having an air of cheapness or not giving a poo poo.  Hannibal Rising on the other hand.  Edit: Wait I just realized, did you mean to say the Edward Norton Red Dragon movie because in that case hell yes.
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brocked posted:On a similar note, the stupid movie Cat Run has Janet McTeer playing as a giant Mary Poppins-esque international assassin Is that one worth watching as a distraction for an hour and a half? I've only heard about it in the context of "Tarantino wannabe" movies. Neo Rasa posted:Say what you will about Hannibal (both the Ridley Scott film or the TV series) but I would never accuse either of having an air of cheapness or not giving a poo poo. The movie and novel Hannibal has a similar problem to Hannibal Rising in my view (aside from the fact that both were purportedly written because Harris was told someone else would write them if he didn't because whichever studio was involved just wanted something to adapt), namely that they're both in awe of the character of Hannibal Lecter and buy into the hype created around him in The Silence of the Lambs (and more to the point, Anthony Hopkins's performance in the film adaptation), if that makes any sense. You know, I think in Hannibal and Hannibal Rising he's at times written as a kind of ingenious and romantic Renaissance Man who merits admiration, rather than a petty-minded, arrogant serial killer who murders people because they offend him personally.
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I agree about the books but the Hannibal movie I thought was good at showing he was full of poo poo. Just from Starling not joining him at the end and also from how while he kills a couple of folks who are assholes, I mean everything involving what he does to Pazzi is pretty petty and awful. And I like that the movie is so grandiose and Hannibal is so full of himself but in his actions, he's still clearly just full of poo poo and killing folks because they personally offend him. I mean he gives Pazzi poo poo because his ancestor like 400 years earlier betrayed someone and got publicly gutted and orchestrated his entire thesis around that, that's as petty as it gets. So I felt like the movie did a good job of having its lung and eating it too compared to the book. I mean the movie ends with him feeding a naive kid someone's brain. Hannibal Rising is some mega-dogshit though both in book and movie form. Like Hannibal as some chivalrous avenging samurai code dude via the teachings of his Asian aunt like are you loving kidding me with that poo poo. IIRC Hannibal was written first and then adapted into a movie (there's a two year gap between them), which Dino Di Laurentis was thrilled to do after Manhunter didn't do so great and he passed on Silence of the Lambs. But Hannibal Rising is exactly as you describe, they wanted to do a prequel and were going to do it no matter who wrote the story. The book and script were written concurrently and the book was released like two months before the movie came out.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I wonder if Cage coming off the Oscar for Leaving Las Vegas and going into movies like The Rock and Con Air was seen as odd by audiences in 1996. For comparison, imagine if Taken had been the next movie Liam Neeson starred in after Schindler's List. Or how Kate Beckinsale was known for being in costume dramas and Shakespeare films for a decade, but is now better known for Underworld movies. I suppose even Charlize Theron counts after Fury Road and Atomic Blonde. I love the idea of action heroes who are ordinary people thrust into extraordinary circumstances who rise to the occasion, despite not being natural badasses. John McClane was kind of like this in the first Die Hard -- a good, smart, tough cop, but definitely different from the archetypal, musclebound '80s action heroes like Schwarzenegger and Stallone. Johnny Depp was like this too, even moreso, in Nick of Time. I'm a huge fan of Donald Glover. I think the guy can do it all -- writing, acting, stand-up, rapping, singing, production. And I'd love to see him in an action movie as a likable regular guy who is out of his depth. Paul Rudd is Ant-Man now, but I can see him in a similar sort of everyman role, and also Jason Bateman, who excels at playing these perennially put-upon characters. And his time is coming, since he just co-wrote and co-starred in Blindspotting, which sounds like a crime drama with some comedic elements that was a big hit at Sundance and should be out later this year, but be on the lookout for Daveed Diggs. You may have already seen him in the latest season of The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, but the guy is multi-talented and is going to be a huge star.
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Neo Rasa posted:I agree about the books but the Hannibal movie I thought was good at showing he was full of poo poo. Just from Starling not joining him at the end and also from how while he kills a couple of folks who are assholes, I mean everything involving what he does to Pazzi is pretty petty and awful. And I like that the movie is so grandiose and Hannibal is so full of himself but in his actions, he's still clearly just full of poo poo and killing folks because they personally offend him. I mean he gives Pazzi poo poo because his ancestor like 400 years earlier betrayed someone and got publicly gutted and orchestrated his entire thesis around that, that's as petty as it gets. So I felt like the movie did a good job of having its lung and eating it too compared to the book. I mean the movie ends with him feeding a naive kid someone's brain. Fair enough; I realise that some of my ambivalence to the movie is probably redirected dislike for the book. I wonder if the movie version of The Silence of the Lambs played into that "It's awesome to be a bad guy!" trend you got amongst Tarantino copycats (the apotheosis of which was The Boondock Saints) which were discussed a bit here a little while ago. (I was thinking about Tarantino wannabes and ripoffs earlier because recently I watched Layer Cake which is still very good.)
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Wheat Loaf posted:Fair enough; I realise that some of my ambivalence to the movie is probably redirected dislike for the book. 2 Days in the Valley Things To Do In Denver When You're Dead Lucky Number Slevin EDIT: Smokin' Aces I still really enjoyed Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch, though. Big Bad Voodoo Lou fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jan 28, 2018 |
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I still really enjoyed Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch, though. I like both of those and Layer Cake. I haven't watched Revolver (have heard it's not great) or RocknRolla (have heard it's better than Revolver). Even at its trashiest, I usually find something to like in that sort of lurid crime/black comedy genre, but it's best when it's got some modicum of self-awareness.
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I know I already said it but King Arthur Legend of the Sword is absolutely worth a watch if you've ever enjoyed Guy Ritchie stuff.
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I actually enjoyed both his Sherlock Holmes movies and his The Man From U.N.C.L.E. remake a lot, but I'm a) predisposed to like both detectives and spies; b) not terribly interested in Arthurian legend* stories; and c) what little I've seen of the film doesn't really appeal to me. All that being said, I'm actually cautiously optimistic about him doing Aladdin for Disney in their next big "let's do live-action remakes of our animated classics" cash-in, because that was my favourite Disney movie when I was little. * Does anyone remember the Antoine Fuqua one with Clive Owen from about 15 years ago?
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Wheat Loaf posted:I like both of those and Layer Cake. I haven't watched Revolver (have heard it's not great) or RocknRolla (have heard it's better than Revolver). Even at its trashiest, I usually find something to like in that sort of lurid crime/black comedy genre, but it's best when it's got some modicum of self-awareness. Revolver is good for just how out there it is. Like the world it takes place in is clearly not the real world and the entire thing has a dreamlike feel to it. RocknRolla just has a completely nutso cast. Tom Wilkinson, Idris Elba, Thandie Newton, Tom Hardy, Mark Strong, Toby Kebbell, Ludacris, Jeremy Piven, Gerard Butler. Also there's a really fun scene with Idris Elba and Gerard Butler trying to rob some Chechens and how nothing stops them.
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