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Shibawanko posted:I'm reading Americanah, it's assigned reading, I think it's good but I also feel like I will have forgotten it all in a week. I recommend reading Every Day is for the Thief by Teju Cole afterwards because it makes a very interesting companion piece
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Shibawanko posted:I'm reading Americanah, it's assigned reading, I think it's good but I also feel like I will have forgotten it all in a week. I felt that way about Half of a Yellow Sun, which was also semi-assigned reading. I remember it being very powerful, but I couldn't tell you anything else about it without looking it up.
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I'm reading through History of Seven Killings, but for a break I switched to Marlon James first novel, John Crow's Devil, which is straight up horror! What the heck! I'm really digging both of them.
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Feb 16, 2018 19:01
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CelestialCookie posted:So I just finished Knut Hamsun’s Hunger and I am looking for more of his works. Any recommendations? mysteries and wayfarers
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Feb 16, 2018 19:57
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pospysyl posted:I'm reading through History of Seven Killings, but for a break I switched to Marlon James first novel, John Crow's Devil, which is straight up horror! What the heck! I'm really digging both of them. That's rad, going to have to check that out. It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but his next novel is the first of a fantasy series that he is writing because he got in an argument with a friend who said there were no such thing as black hobbits lol
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Feb 16, 2018 22:06
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I saw this at the bookstore today and I thought the more observant and well read of you might get a kick out of it
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Feb 16, 2018 22:23
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A human heart posted:I follow like 40 people and some of them don't even update anymore, but these two guys both have generally good taste or read cool things, and if you dig through their friend lists you'll find more people: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/4784332.Nate_Dorr, https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/531153-jonathan. There's also a guy who has like 10000 books listed and they're all insane out of print esoteric crap that no one else has read but i don't really look for recommendations there per se, he's just kind of cool to look at every once in a while. Oh cool, a 1001 Books contributor. Does anyone have an opinion on 1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die? I own all four editions of it (which list 1,305 books total) and used it as my primary source of Real Literature recommendations before I found this thread.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:29
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I recommend reading Every Day is for the Thief by Teju Cole afterwards because it makes a very interesting companion piece pospysyl posted:I felt that way about Half of a Yellow Sun, which was also semi-assigned reading. I remember it being very powerful, but I couldn't tell you anything else about it without looking it up. I read it a lot today and I like how a lot of the middle chapters are just a laundry list of "crazy poo poo americans say and do", which is amusing. American white culture always seems fundamentally alien to me. Nigerian culture as it's described in the book, although I don't really know anything about it, at least seems like I could understand it if I lived there and read about it, as I probably could do with most other cultures on this planet. American culture is the odd one out with people who say "AWESOME!!" to strangers and so on. It also reminds me of some strongly America-oriented Japanese I've met, all the weird insecurity and horseshit about American accents.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:38
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It's disappointing that the author apparently gave a TED talk though.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:36
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After 28 years of avoiding it, I've learned that poetry is good as hell
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Feb 17, 2018 00:25
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blue squares posted:After 28 years of avoiding it, I've learned that poetry is good as hell what changed your mind?
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Tree Goat posted:what changed your mind? You'll laugh but Rupi Kaur. I read one thing by her that made me cry. I've never had that reaction before. Then I realized most of her stuff is crap and bought Bloom's poetry anthology. I'm up to Milton now and just having my mind blown regularly.
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Feb 17, 2018 00:31
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blue squares posted:You'll laugh but Rupi Kaur. I read one thing by her that made me cry. You are morally obligated to post the poem now
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Feb 17, 2018 00:51
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This is embarrassing: how is it so easy for you To be kind to people he asked milk and honey dripped from my lips as I answered cause people have not been kind to me Yeah I dunno, but it hit me in the feels at the book store so I bought it. I didn't finish the book
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Feb 17, 2018 01:04
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Feb 17, 2018 01:06
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poo poo, anything can hit you in the gut if youre in the right/wrong headspace at the moment. no shame imo but thats a really lovely poem though, and my tastes are at best pedestrian
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Feb 17, 2018 01:13
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Well I'm reading Milton now so I have stepped up my game marginally
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Feb 17, 2018 01:20
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First poem I remember reading was by this 1960s guy who went by Soya. It's called a love story:quote:Hand in hand Blew my mind but it's basically just a silly-clever word game & not very ~poetic~ at all Second one is by Henrik Nordbrandt, The Year has 16 Months: quote:November, December Again, super simplistic & word-gameish. Now I'm an adult and I only read ww1 poetry
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Feb 17, 2018 01:31
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the first poem i remember reading was "august ice cream cone" by paul janeczko:quote:Lick we had an orange tabby cat, and my mother would recite william blake's the tyger whenever she was mad at the cat thus began my life-long love of poetry
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Feb 17, 2018 01:51
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I have extremely strong memories of my dad reading The Jumblies by Edward Lear and me just walking around the house shouting far and few far and few are the lands where the jumblies live their heads are green their hands are blue and they went to see in a sieve. blue squares posted:Well I'm reading Milton now so I have stepped up my game marginally Welcome, blue squares
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https://twitter.com/transitorykris/status/809588921671684096
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Feb 17, 2018 02:31
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We had to memorise poetry at school and I used to memorise nonsense poetry instead of normal poems
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J_RBG posted:We had to memorise poetry at school and I used to memorise nonsense poetry instead of normal poems Somewhere I have a piece of paper with a Danish poem in my own handwriting that reads like kinda lovely 80s poetry but I don't remember writing it and anyway it's way too diverse in vocabulary and references that I could have written it. Google hasn't helped me ever (like zero hits for phrases or partials). I mean I should remember having written that, right? I must have copied it from someone else..? Also Nael's tiger poem owns
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Feb 17, 2018 03:03
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Between the in-joke And the reference Between the shitpost And the ban Falls the Shadow
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“To poetize or not to (the same)?” Who begged that lovely question, what the gently caress this is the worst I hate this poem.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I saw this at the bookstore today and I thought the more observant and well read of you might get a kick out of it Story of Zhao Yun and Liu Bei is my favourite gay love story in classical literature
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Feb 17, 2018 06:59
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Chazani posted:Story of Zhao Yun and Liu Bei is my favourite gay love story in classical literature Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu's love-hate thing is pretty good too, IMO
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After The War posted:Between the in-joke nice.
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Ernst Jandl's 1944/1945: markierung einer wende 1944 1945 krieg krieg krieg krieg krieg krieg krieg krieg krieg mai krieg krieg krieg krieg krieg krieg krieg blue squares posted:This is embarrassing: I kind of respect you for owning up.
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Krankenstyle posted:First poem I remember reading was by this 1960s guy who went by Soya. It's called a love story: I like it
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Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune without the words, And never stops at all, And sweetest in the gale is heard; And sore must be the storm That could abash the little bird That kept so many warm. I’ve heard it in the chillest land, And on the strangest sea; Yet, never, in extremity, It asked a crumb of me. this is the poem that got me interested again blue squares
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De mensen worden uit het landschap weggenomen: wat een rust! vooreerst nog geen puinhopen, het licht is het licht dat er is op huizen als dingen naamloze bomen een klagende waakhond een jagende vos later naarmate het donker nadert steeds meer kraaien – People are taken from the landscape: what rest! at first not yet any rubble, the light is the light that there is on houses as things nameless trees a whining guard dog a hunting fox later as darkness approaches more and more crows -
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Shibawanko posted:De mensen worden uit het landschap weggenomen: Kouwenaar! Excuse me for making it about translation again, but whose is this? To combine the recent topics of short stories and poetry, here's a piece I love: "Green, Mud, Gold" by Sara Baume Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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Lex Neville posted:Kouwenaar! Excuse me for making it about translation again, but whose is this? It's by this guy called shibawanko from the something awful forums
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Alright, cool! You do this more often? There's one or two things I think I'd do differently, but I don't want to be obnoxious and offer unsolicited feedback - or derail the thread any further - so if you enjoy discussing these things, feel free to pm me. No worries if not, of course!
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He is making fun of sound/concrete poetry.
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speaking of poems, this is insanely good
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Lex Neville posted:Alright, cool! You do this more often? There's one or two things I think I'd do differently, but I don't want to be obnoxious and offer unsolicited feedback - or derail the thread any further - so if you enjoy discussing these things, feel free to pm me. No worries if not, of course! I don't have plat and no I don't translate, I just translated this one really quickly because I like it and I wanted to show what it meant (it's about a world without humans). What should be different? The second half of Americanah stinks honestly. Obinze's chapter is by far the best, a pretty believable portrayal of being an immigrant in Europe, everything after that is painful to read. Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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Shibawanko posted:I don't have plat and no I don't translate, I just translated this one really quickly because I like it and I wanted to show what it meant (it's about a world without humans). What should be different? This is all personal, of course, but I think 'rest' for rust is probably a bit of a false friend because, while 'to rest' is a straightforward translation of the verb rusten, it doesn't evoke the same sense of tranquility as a noun, which is important exactly because of what it's about. Secondly, vooreerst is a marked manner of phrasing, which emphasises the idea that for now ('vooralsnog'), this is the way it is. Vooreerst in the sense of 'at first' or 'in the beginning' is more common in Flemish-Dutch, which I don't think is what we're dealing with, but more importantly it doesn't bear the ominous implication that humans will arrive and make puinhopen. In that sense, I think 'For now, / no rubble yet' might be more fitting (although 'for now' is less marked than vooreerst, which is a shame). Lastly, 'rubble' for puinhopen is less abstract than the source text; puinhopen also implies disarray as a result of human efforts or failure, rather than simply clutter like rubble does, but I'm not sure if I have another English phrase that I think suits it better readily available. Anyway, none of these things should be different and, really, they're all a bit nitpicky considering you translated it simply to quickly show what it meant. I understood them to be more deliberate choices and was curious about the reasoning behind them. Also, I should add that I don't actually translate into English myself; I translate into Dutch. Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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