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I feel like a proper ToP is something that can only really happen in the manga, especially with the animation budget Super was saddled with. I'm trying to imagine that depicted in the anime and all I can imagine is everyone in that scene either flipping between the same two frames or Gmod flailing at each other.
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The Bee posted:I feel like a proper ToP is something that can only really happen in the manga, especially with the animation budget Super was saddled with. I'm trying to imagine that depicted in the anime and all I can imagine is everyone in that scene either flipping between the same two frames or Gmod flailing at each other. Considering how XV2 improved upon the anime's arcs a bit when adapting it (U6 vs U7 had Piccolo beat Bomato, the rest of the Tournament became a tag team thing; Black's Time Ring was the cause of the weirdass hole he ripped in the sky, ultimately proved their undoing when Trunks could use it to get extra Spirit Bomb Sword support), I'd wager the games could likewise improve upon it.
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The Bee posted:I feel like a proper ToP is something that can only really happen in the manga, especially with the animation budget Super was saddled with. I'm trying to imagine that depicted in the anime and all I can imagine is everyone in that scene either flipping between the same two frames or Gmod flailing at each other. It's almost like they should've given a bigger animation budget to the flagship show with a massive arc centred around huge group fights that's making them millions upon millions of cash money.
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Feb 17, 2018 20:36
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Steve2911 posted:It's almost like they should've given a bigger animation budget to the flagship show with a massive arc centred around huge group fights that's making them millions upon millions of cash money. It’s not so much the budget, Toei is stretched really thin for their animators and it shows. Plus it’s poo poo and you’re still watching anyway, so what do they care? Their budget and animation time goes to Pretty Cure because people will actually stop watching it if it starts to look bad.
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TheKingofSprings posted:It’s not so much the budget, Toei is stretched really thin for their animators and it shows. This is actually probably the best counterargument. Toei doesn't care if the show is garbage because people still tune in every week to either watch it while ignoring the flaws (Which is fine to do; ignoring them is different from saying they don't exist), or to hatewatch it for being bad, and either way they get paid.
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Is it normal for magazines in Japan to spoil the poo poo out of ongoing stories? Or is it like those poo poo soap opera rags who advertise themselves on ruining the plot?
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Feb 17, 2018 20:45
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Steve2911 posted:Is it normal for magazines in Japan to spoil the poo poo out of ongoing stories? Or is it like those poo poo soap opera rags who advertise themselves on ruining the plot? Japan doesn't give a poo poo about spoilers.
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I don't know about Japan's attitude to spoilers, but Dragon Ball in particular is basically a children's toys commercial, so I'm not surprised they play it fast and loose with spoilers in magazines.
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Okay, I laughed.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Chi-chi's overbearing and joyless to the point of suffocation but there's no argument to be made that she's a bad parent at all. i'm pretty sure that's the exact argument that she's a bad parent though in her defense "i don't want my literal small child son to go into space and fight kung-fu spacemen for magic orbs" is a perfectly valid complaint Yinlock fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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Blockhouse posted:what?? no what hosed up translation is that from oh that makes more sense i think it was from one of the original dubs, i remember it pretty clearly because it was so jarring and even as a kid i was like "wow what the gently caress chichi"
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I remember her using the word thug and thinking it was really weird, I thought she was just saying he would be someone else that spent their whole life fighting like Goku. It's something that doesn't translate to English very well, cause there's no way I'd ever associate blond hair with delinquency otherwise.
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Steve2911 posted:Is it normal for magazines in Japan to spoil the poo poo out of ongoing stories? Or is it like those poo poo soap opera rags who advertise themselves on ruining the plot? Being utterly terrified of having mundane things spoiled is a total westerner thing and its gotten really unbearable of late. I tag out of courtesy but I pity spoiler culture.
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Yinlock posted:i'm pretty sure that's the exact argument that she's a bad parent DBZA jokes aside, yeah, I never really read Chi-Chi as particularly overbearing or unreasonable. She's a huge stick-in-the-mud about letting Gohan go off and do punchman things, but I wouldn't want my tiny child participating in battles to the death with space aliens and androids either. Remember that Gohan is a kid who got kidnapped by an evil alien, rescued, then kidnapped by another used-to-be-evil alien and forced to survive out in the wilderness alone when he was loving four. After that I'm surprised Chi-Chi didn't turn him into Bubble Boy.
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Steve2911 posted:Is it normal for magazines in Japan to spoil the poo poo out of ongoing stories? Or is it like those poo poo soap opera rags who advertise themselves on ruining the plot? Dragon Ball Heroes spoiled Goku and freeza being the final two vs Jiren literally months ago and here we are. Japan doesn’t care about spoilers
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Being utterly terrified of having mundane things spoiled is a total westerner thing and its gotten really unbearable of late. eh i can kind of understand it, i've had some huge poo poo spoiled for me in games before because i looked up something insignificant some people just loving love spoiling poo poo at all times
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Kanos posted:DBZA jokes aside, yeah, I never really read Chi-Chi as particularly overbearing or unreasonable. She's a huge stick-in-the-mud about letting Gohan go off and do punchman things, but I wouldn't want my tiny child participating in battles to the death with space aliens and androids either. Remember that Gohan is a kid who got kidnapped by an evil alien, rescued, then kidnapped by another used-to-be-evil alien and forced to survive out in the wilderness alone when he was loving four. After that I'm surprised Chi-Chi didn't turn him into Bubble Boy. Plus, every single time poo poo REALLY hit the fan, Chi-chi relented and allowed Gohan to train and fight, and in less stressful situations even let Goku abandon his family for a while to go train. If anything, Chi-chi is surprisingly lax. Sure, she works hard to make sure Gohan becomes an actually productive member of society and not a complete sociopath who exterminates entire universes because he wants cool fights, but I can't exactly blame her for that, you know? And she even was more lax and accepting with Goten's fight passion, even though Goten is the least passionate kid ever.
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All I gotta say is Este es el fin tio jiren
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Kashuno posted:Dragon Ball Heroes spoiled Goku and freeza being the final two vs Jiren literally months ago and here we are. Japan doesn’t care about spoilers Ehh it's poo poo like that which makes it clear that they don't give two shits about storytelling. People complaining about people not wanting the plot and contents of their entertainment known in advance suck toes.
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Stories are better when you don't know what's going to happen next imo.
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The thing that dragonball is trying to do isn't really impacted much by spoilers Like, we all know that there are absolutely 0 major permanent risks. The end of Z is in universe years away, and everyone is perfectly fine there. We all know where things will end up, so the cool stuff is the characters and action along the way, which spoilers don't really effect.
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Saagonsa posted:The thing that dragonball is trying to do isn't really impacted much by spoilers also "the main characters win" is not exactly a stunning plot twist
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Life's a journey, not a destination.
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Esto es el fin, señor Jiren
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Yinlock posted:also "the main characters win" is not exactly a stunning plot twist Even for a kids cartoon I'd have thought a new form would be the sort of "oh poo poo" moment that'd be better as a surprise.
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Steve2911 posted:Even for a kids cartoon I'd have thought a new form would be the sort of "oh poo poo" moment that'd be better as a surprise. I remember knowing about Super Saiyan form like a really long time before the show got there in Mexico and it was still an oh poo poo moment that was the talk of the playground the next day when it finally happened
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Steve2911 posted:Even for a kids cartoon I'd have thought a new form would be the sort of "oh poo poo" moment that'd be better as a surprise. American and Canadian kids knew Goku and Vegeta were going to go Super Saiyan 60 episodes before the concept was even vaguely introduced and we didn’t give a poo poo
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TheKingofSprings posted:American and Canadian kids knew Goku and Vegeta were going to go Super Saiyan 60 episodes before the concept was even vaguely introduced and we didn’t give a poo poo mostly because how it happened and what it even was wasn't apparent from just the opening dude just had a cool hairdo all of a sudden
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Yinlock posted:mostly because how it happened and what it even was wasn't apparent from just the opening Vegeta roared and his hair turned yellow, and people roar in DBZ to get stronger
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I knew SSJ only because of Mexico. They were on the Buu saga and I didn’t know who the hell Vegito was for the longest meanwhile here in America we were on a endless loop hole of Namek to Raditz
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I don't really remember much about where I first saw Super Saiyan, but the first episode I saw after a long while of not having cable was Trunks killing Frieza, so the iconic first time has never been one of the defining scenes for me personally.
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I had heard of Dragon Ball Z before it aired on Toonami in 1998. I never saw it, but I only knew about it on some Geocities Mega Man fan site I read when I was in fifth grade. And like any information I knew about other anime such as Sailor Moon, Internet access at home was where I learned about anything ahead of time.
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Trunks was my favorite character like as soon as I went on the internet and found out he existed and as the Frieda saga went I was more and more excited thinking that Namek was gonna wrap up any day now and Vegeta’s kid with a sword was gonna maybe show up and one time I threw a half-tantrum because I had to go grocery shopping with my mom when DBZ was on and it was like, the third episode of Goku being super saiyan BUT TRUNKS MIGHT SHOW UP IN TODAYS EPISODE E: whoops hit post before I was done Sockser fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Feb 18, 2018 |
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I watched dbz with my dad when it came out, but I was too young to really understand it so that came later with budokai and the internet
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I played Dragon Ball Final Bout while we were still in the middle of the Namek saga.
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Rhonne posted:I played Dragon Ball Final Bout while we were still in the middle of the Namek saga. I am also guilty of playing this terrible game. I didn't give a poo poo then because I loved anything Dragonball.
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I came into DBZ halfway through the Saiyan arc on Cartoon Network and I remember when they looped back to the first episode from the Namek stuff and thinking, well, this is a pretty weird side-story about a farmer meeting another Saiyan but okay I guess if we get Super Saiyan in an episode or two that'll be fine. I'd also had a bunch of DBZ stuff from the local anime store at the mall and I couldn't understand why Goku kept reverting from his SSJ transformation because I thought it was permanent.
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Rhonne posted:I played Dragon Ball Final Bout while we were still in the middle of the Namek saga. I loved the hell out of this amazing, terrible game. It was so cool to see all these characters we wouldn't have any context for until like five years in the future.
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Final bout is where my hatred of Super Baby (Great Ape Form) was formed. Cheap rear end boss. And then the series came out. Yup still hated Baby.
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