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The Notorious ZSB posted:The drastic change in the annunciation of key and well established devices was really jarring. Their voice direction in my opinion feels kinda flat compared to how the cast had rounded into shape by the end of the TV dub. yeah, don't get me wrong, it's absolutely not a Cowboy Bebop/Baccano! quality dub, but honestly i feel like the TV dub is a little shonky in parts too. both movie and TV dubs are pretty much flawed but serviceable, imo, and are good to have for if i wanna rewatch eva while doing laundry or something. e: the rebuild dubs are loving amazing but that's not a surprise, Funi pretty consistently does good work if they have a reason to (and sometimes if they don't- I was kind of loving stunned at how good the Future Diary dub was, they put way more effort in than that show arguably needed)
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Unmature posted:Quick Q: Does anyone know if the original Usenet boards for EVA are still up? Some of them are available after the Google purchase, but some old Usenet boards are apparently gone forever. I'm trying to find the earliest discussion online about the show and figure that's a good place to start. I tried looking myself over at Google Groups but didn't find anything contemporary.
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Mar 13, 2018 13:50
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Midjack posted:A lot of the English audio issues can be laid at the feet of Rei's voice actor, who was also the script writer, ADR director, and producer of the dub track. There's probably a reason she hasn't voiced Rei since. Yes, because her son has leukemia.
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Mar 13, 2018 17:42
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Agronox posted:I tried looking myself over at Google Groups but didn't find anything contemporary. I found one group that looked pretty official and scrolled all the way back to 2000 before giving up. There's no sort from oldest posts button.
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Mar 13, 2018 18:07
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Yes, because her son has leukemia. I can't imagine the fact that the hardcore Eva fanbase in the Anglosphere literally thinks she's Satan incarnate helps much, though.
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Mar 13, 2018 20:47
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I can't imagine the fact that the hardcore Eva fanbase in the Anglosphere literally thinks she's Satan incarnate helps much, though. Their response has been something like "you did a bad enough job to give your unborn child cancer, please kill you are self immediately" so yeah.
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Mar 14, 2018 02:03
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That's really loving sorry if true. Look, EoE had a bad dub. So what? Really, watching EoE is given yet another layer of infamy due to the dub. Want to watch a mind warp of a movie? Watch the sub. Wanna watch some hilariously bad dubbing decisions? Watch the dub. There's value in both, dammit.
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Mar 14, 2018 02:32
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The only bad part about the flamethrower bit is that the guy starts shooting flame again before the other guy finishes his sentence.
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Mar 14, 2018 03:18
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I haven't seen the EoE dub but is that the one where they added all kinds of stupid sound effects and confuse a person slapping someone for a gunshot etc? I know sometimes a word in Japanese doesn't have a direct version in English but don't try mixing poo poo up like some bad Abridged parody.
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Mar 14, 2018 05:44
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Yeah, it's definitely that one. I don't mind the dub itself, but the added SFX -- like that incredibly cartoony 'splortch' they use like a dozen times -- are horrendous.
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Mar 14, 2018 05:46
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Should have handed the EoE dubbing over to the ReDeath guys.
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Mar 14, 2018 05:47
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the EoE dub replacing sound effects is vastly overstated, its like one or two brief moments in the whole movie. Also its kind of unwarranted, since apparently part of the reason they did it was because Gainax were dicks and gave them a partially flattened audio track instead of a real multitrack master for D&R and EoE, so they literally had to rebuild parts of the SFX track from scratch.
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Mar 14, 2018 05:49
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I know about the sound effects and even when explicitly looking for them I still can never notice where they are, so ymmv.
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Mar 14, 2018 05:51
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The main one is when Misato says, "No offence taken." in response to the soldier telling Shinji that [killing him] is "nothing personal." She shoots him in the head from his jaw, and there's a really dumb splotchy sound effect. The others I can't list off off the top of my head, except for "Hit em again".
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Mar 14, 2018 06:50
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I'd agree that the sound effects changes in EoE aren't as big a deal as they're usually made out to be, IMO, even moreso if they really weren't given a proper multitrack master to work with. The TV series dub on the other hand is pretty questionable. I grew up with the Eva dub and I will probably always associate those voices with its characters, but it really does the show a disservice with a lot of terrible corny line readings (especially in the early episodes), and some outright mistranslations (which aren't really helpful in a show that's already known as being "confusing"). Some characters having their voice actors replaced over the course of the series also doesn't help.
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Mar 14, 2018 15:18
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I really like the English voice for Misato for some reason. It just feels right.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:25
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Zeruel posted:The main one is when Misato says, "No offence taken." in response to the soldier telling Shinji that [killing him] is "nothing personal." She shoots him in the head from his jaw, and there's a really dumb splotchy sound effect. It's the same sound again when the Unit 6/Reiface hybrids explode while impaling themselves iirc.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:36
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Roth posted:I really like the English voice for Misato for some reason. I think in terms of casting all the main characters nailed it. A lot of lines could use another take, but the voices usually line up with the character.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:38
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Unmature posted:I think in terms of casting all the main characters nailed it. A lot of lines could use another take, but the voices usually line up with the character. Allison Keith started off a bit high and squeaky, but she improved dramatically over the series, to the point that she sounds more 'correct' to me than Kotono Mitsuishi. Although that's at least partially due to hearing the dub first. All of the major characters were good to great, even Spike Spencer since his voice actually fit the character (unlike in Nadesico). The secondary and bit characters, on the other hand, could be rather goofy. I'm looking at you, Kensuke and the SEELE council.
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Paracelsus posted:Allison Keith started off a bit high and squeaky, but she improved dramatically over the series, to the point that she sounds more 'correct' to me than Kotono Mitsuishi. Although that's at least partially due to hearing the dub first. I was kind of astounded the first time I watched Evangelion in Japanese and heard Kensuke's original voice. It gave me a completely different impression of him as a character, much more serious and grounded (even jaded maybe?) in spite of his overexcitable personality. The dub Kensuke voice is glorious in its corniness, though, and is admittedly a lot of fun to mimic.
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Mar 15, 2018 00:01
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My favorite NGE character is Eddy from Ed, Edd n Eddy as a pilot
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Mar 15, 2018 00:08
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Roth posted:My favorite NGE character is Eddy from Ed, Edd n Eddy as a pilot EVERY SINGLE MISSILE HIT THE TARGET AAAAAAA
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Mar 15, 2018 03:45
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The Eva dub gave us this, which will allow me to forgive all transgressions https://youtu.be/kGMuaXIlckU
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Mar 15, 2018 04:21
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:The Eva dub gave us this, which will allow me to forgive all transgressions justin roiland should record this in character as Morty. actually poo poo, i want a redub with Morty-voice for Shinji and Rick-voice for Gendo. and gently caress it, summer as Asuka, and Morty's parents as Misato and... jerry should probably be Rei huh?
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DC Murderverse posted:justin roiland should record this in character as Morty. Council of Ricks as SEELE.
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Unmature posted:Quick Q: Does anyone know if the original Usenet boards for EVA are still up? Some of them are available after the Google purchase, but some old Usenet boards are apparently gone forever. I'm trying to find the earliest discussion online about the show and figure that's a good place to start. Usenet wise, the oldest discussion would be in rec.arts.anime and rec.arts.anime.misc You could probably play around with the search conditions more or just read those boards in the 1995-1997 range to find more/different stuff, but those links should get you to the oldest possible discussion. Google sure doesn't make it easy.
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First time I watched EVA was the french dub and I think it's alright. It has my top Gendo.
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For the eva dub, didnt the air guitar man VA redo all the unit 01 yelling and growling? Always thought that was odd. Couldn't they just get those bits from the jp track.
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Seemlar posted:Usenet wise, the oldest discussion would be in rec.arts.anime and rec.arts.anime.misc Thanks! Yeah the way Google has it laid out is a real pain. I wish I could just sort from oldest or search by date. Unless I can and just didn't see those options.
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I'm looking forward to anything interesting you might find, Unmature.Mindblast posted:For the eva dub, didnt the air guitar man VA redo all the unit 01 yelling and growling? Always thought that was odd. Couldn't they just get those bits from the jp track. Changing it for the dub is fine, though it should have been a distorted version of Amanda Winn-Lee or whoever they had playing Yui (Apparently in the TV dub it was someone else) IMO. The Japanese version has Megumi Hayashibara doing Rei, Yui, and a heavily distorted version of her voice is even used for Unit 01, which is some nice consistency.
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I think Eva-01's roars were given to them on the same audio track as the other character voices, so they had to be re-recorded for the dub.
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:The Eva dub gave us this, which will allow me to forgive all transgressions ADV deserves more credit for a lot of the outtakes and poo poo like that they included on their discs.
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Awww geez, Rick. Why did you send for me? Yeh...urgh...You know why I sent for you, Morty. So, so what Rick!?! you’re asking me to just...just like take this thing and go out there and fight?! Yeah pretty much. What the gently caress Rick!? I thought you didn’t want me! I mean, jeez! Why did you have to call me now Rick?! *urrp* Because I have a use for you. But why? Why me? Trust me Morty if anyone else could do this I would have left you looking at pornhub in your room. No I can’t, this is crazy! I’ve never even seen anything like this before! There’s no way I can do this! Don..oof *urrrrp*..don't be such a pussy Morty. I'm not! There’s just like, no way! I can’t pilot that thing! Christ Morty! If you’re going to do it, do it now! If not then leave!
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Mar 15, 2018 20:59
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The original script is like 4 burps and 2 aw jeezes away from looking like an R&M exchange anyway lol
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quote:I’ve never even seen anything like this before!! I've always had a problem with this line. Like, did you forget you literally saw Unit 01 eat your mom?
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Ak Gara posted:I've always had a problem with this line. Like, did you forget you literally saw Unit 01 eat your mom? I thought the show made it pretty clear that he had forgotten it/repressed it? And he was, what, two or three years old?
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Mar 16, 2018 06:39
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HAS ANYONE SEEN MY FRIEND CARTER PAGE PLEASE HELP OH GOD
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Mar 16, 2018 18:29
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Wrong thread?
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Mar 16, 2018 18:35
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tfw you post to the Eva instead of TRUMP thread
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Oops wrong thread lol Yep, eva and trump. My brain is forever broken.
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